Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Štěpán Kasal

Hello all, > Therefore I'd like to ask FESCo to mass-orphan all packages owned by him. > Should I open a ticket? yes, it is true that I'm not able to find any time to do my duties as a package maintainer. I agree that mass orphaning of the packages is a reasonable solution. I would be grateful

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On Wed, Sep 14, 2011 at 6:44 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Rahul Sundaram writes: >> On 09/14/2011 09:55 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >>> Honestly, if systemd updates has 5% of users failing on an update to >>> the software - we should dump the thing immediately and go back to >>> upstart. That is insanely

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 00:25 -0400, Genes MailLists wrote: > On 09/13/2011 09:48 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > >> Good points - up to a point - but lets go slow and think for a few > >> minutes - unlike the kernel which is very hardware dependent and

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/14/2011 10:14 AM, Tom Lane wrote: > Really? To my mind, systemd is still on trial ... and it's failing. > I think there's a significant probability we'll go to something else > in a release or three. It is a small number of people repeating bringing up high risk and frankly silly ideas like

Re: [systemd-devel] question

Rahul Sundaram writes: > On 09/14/2011 09:55 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Honestly, if systemd updates has 5% of users failing on an update to >> the software - we should dump the thing immediately and go back to >> upstart. That is insanely high bug rate for core code which is (or >> should be)

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/14/2011 09:55 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Honestly, if systemd updates has 5% of users failing on an update to > the software - we should dump the thing immediately and go back to > upstart. That is insanely high bug rate for core code which is (or > should be) pretty simple. Get real. No

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/13/2011 09:48 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: >> Good points - up to a point - but lets go slow and think for a few >> minutes - unlike the kernel which is very hardware dependent and >> therefore may run on many machines but not all, systemd is no -

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/14/2011 06:47 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Good points - up to a point - but lets go slow and think for a few > minutes - unlike the kernel which is very hardware dependent and > therefore may run on many machines but not all, systemd is no - or > should not be for its core functionality. Its

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 20:37 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes: > > 2011/9/14 Tom Lane : > >> Certainly postgresql.init was never exactly lean-and-mean, so it > >> seems like it ought to have been doing more work than the unit file > >> requires. Are you sure you

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/13/2011 08:34 PM, Jef Spaleta wrote: > > > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Genes MailLists > wrote: > > The kernel has undergone more updates than systemd ... all for very > good reasons - making it better and solving problems. Sure the same > woul

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes: > 2011/9/14 Tom Lane : >> Certainly postgresql.init was never exactly lean-and-mean, so it >> seems like it ought to have been doing more work than the unit file >> requires.  Are you sure you were comparing apples to apples as far as >> the state of th

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Genes MailLists wrote: > The kernel has undergone more updates than systemd ... all for very > good reasons - making it better and solving problems. Sure the same > would apply to systemd. > > We also go to some lengths to make sure that there is a fall back kern

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

2011/9/14 Tom Lane : > =?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes: >> 2011/9/13 Tom Lane : >>> (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 >>> for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd >>> files.) > >> I used this service file on F15 and it starts slower >

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/14/2011 05:43 AM, Genes MailLists wrote: > Not sure what your point is above .. The kernel has undergone more > updates than systemd ... all for very good reasons - making it better > and solving problems. Sure the same would apply to systemd. Don't the > updates look pretty sensible? The sa

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/13/2011 05:58 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 09/14/2011 02:59 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: >> So Fedora guys what you are waiting for ? update systemd please , should >> I open a report in bugzilla ? > > I can explain each of your examples but since systemd upstream developer > is also the Fedor

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

=?ISO-8859-2?Q?Micha=B3_Piotrowski?= writes: > 2011/9/13 Tom Lane : >> (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 >> for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd >> files.) > I used this service file on F15 and it starts slower > 4214ms postgresql.service

Re: what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

Hi, On Wed, 2011-09-14 at 01:03 +0200, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi > > 2011/9/13 Tom Lane : > > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 > > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd > > files.) > > I used this service file on F15 and it starts slow

what if native systemd service is slower than old sysvinit script?

Hi 2011/9/13 Tom Lane : > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd > files.) I used this service file on F15 and it starts slower 4214ms postgresql.service if we compare with an old SysVinit script 2469ms

enlightenment packaging?

Hi, I was directed to contact this list about enlightenment packaging when I asked around in #fedora-devel. Our packages are (still) orphaned in Fedora, and we are hopeful that someone may decide to take up ownership of them. We currently have all the necessary spec files in our repository at htt

Re: [systemd-devel] question

Am 13.09.2011 23:25, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 23:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> >> Am 13.09.2011 21:41, schrieb Sérgio Basto: >>> thanks for this information , could I update systemd to systemd-35 in >>> Fedora 15 with rebuilding the src.rpm , I don't get in trouble ? or w

Re: [systemd-devel] question

Am 13.09.2011 21:41, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > thanks for this information , could I update systemd to systemd-35 in > Fedora 15 with rebuilding the src.rpm , I don't get in trouble ? or we > have some restrictions ? > > I we don't have restriction why systemd Fedora packager don't update > them o

[389-devel] Please review: Add support for pre/post db transaction plugins

http://rmeggins.fedorapeople.org/patches/0001-Add-support-for-pre-post-db-transaction-plugins.patch -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On 09/14/2011 02:59 AM, Sérgio Basto wrote: > So Fedora guys what you are waiting for ? update systemd please , should > I open a report in bugzilla ? I can explain each of your examples but since systemd upstream developer is also the Fedora maintainer, I think he is in a better position to jud

Fwd: What do rawhide testers want and expect?

Not sure if this went through either so forwarding as requested. -- Forwarded message -- From: Jonathan Corbet Date: Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 15:50 Subject: Re: What do rawhide testers want and expect? To: Development discussions related to Fedora Cc: smo...@gmail.com [ I'm not di

Re: [systemd-devel] question

On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 23:15 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > Am 13.09.2011 21:41, schrieb Sérgio Basto: > > thanks for this information , could I update systemd to systemd-35 in > > Fedora 15 with rebuilding the src.rpm , I don't get in trouble ? or we > > have some restrictions ? > > > > I we do

Re: Kudos to Tom "Spot" Callaway

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:57:48AM -0400, David Malcolm wrote: > I believe I agree with you [1] - but to be pedantic (sorry!) what Spot > is packaging is "Chromium", not "Chrome". AIUI, the former is Free > Software, the latter is not. OK, thanks for the clarification. Substitute Chrome by Chro

Re: Fedora 17 Release Naming: Nominations are now open!

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Jared K. Smith wrote: > It is once again time to choose the release name for the next Fedora > release.  Potential names will be accepted for consideration beginning > September 13th (in other words, NOW) through September 10. Sorry for the typo there... that shou

Re: r8712u in f16/17?

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:04 PM, mike cloaked wrote: > I saw in the last two weeks in a post by Larry Finger that finally the > Realtek r8712u driver has been released for inclusion in the kernel. > http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2010/8/30/4612930 It's been submitted for inclusion

r8712u in f16/17?

I saw in the last two weeks in a post by Larry Finger that finally the Realtek r8712u driver has been released for inclusion in the kernel. http://kerneltrap.org/mailarchive/linux-kernel/2010/8/30/4612930 Is it possible/likely that this may get included in a 3.1 kernel or later for f16 any time be

Re: Kudos to Tom "Spot" Callaway

On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 12:24 +0200, Jos Vos wrote: > On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:05:29PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > > > The fact that it is important for Fedora users, doesn't mean it must be > > in the official Fedora repos (see MP3 codecs or other lovely programs in > > non-Fedora repos). [...]

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 13:22 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > That's only a default, though; you can lower it to 1 when you submit the > > update. Also, once a critpath update hits the required threshold - +1 > > from a proventester, +1 from anyone else (PT or no) - you can manually > > push it to

Re: createrepo --update litters CWD with "garbageid" directory

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 10:12 AM, seth vidal wrote: > On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 10:08 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: >> I noticed this started in F15, but when I run "createrepo --update >> ..." it litters the current directory with a "garbageid" directory. >> I'm not sure if anything ever exists in it bu

Re: createrepo --update litters CWD with "garbageid" directory

On Tue, 2011-09-13 at 10:08 -0500, Richard Shaw wrote: > I noticed this started in F15, but when I run "createrepo --update > ..." it litters the current directory with a "garbageid" directory. > I'm not sure if anything ever exists in it but after createrepo exits > the directory is always empty f

Re: Unresponsive Package Maintainer - Štěpán Kasal

Alle martedì 6 settembre 2011, Nicola Soranzo ha scritto: > I'm following the procedure at: > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Policy_for_nonresponsive_package_maintainers > > Does anyone know how to contact Štěpán Kasal (user kasal)? He is not > answering e-mails at his listed address (I've writt

createrepo --update litters CWD with "garbageid" directory

I noticed this started in F15, but when I run "createrepo --update ..." it litters the current directory with a "garbageid" directory. I'm not sure if anything ever exists in it but after createrepo exits the directory is always empty for me. Is there a reason for this or is this a bug? Thanks, R

Fedora 17 Release Naming: Nominations are now open!

It is once again time to choose the release name for the next Fedora release. Potential names will be accepted for consideration beginning September 13th (in other words, NOW) through September 10. Please submit your best ideas to the Fedora wiki at the address below: https://fedoraproject.org/w

Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 22:55:21 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: > > (This isn't new with 9.1, btw --- the last version or so of 9.0 > for F16 was the same, since we switched over to native systemd > files.) I don't remember what I did for 9.0. I either found that stuff or I did a dump and restore. An

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

On 09/13/2011 01:22 PM, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: >> On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 17:56 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: >> If there is not enough karma for his package to bring it into the stable, then there is probably time to ask so

Re: Review request: Apache Traffic Server

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:20:51AM +, "Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" wrote: > > Just out of curiosity I'am assuming this contains a daemon and if so has > it been converted to native systemd service files? Yes it contains a daemon, but no, I haven't created the systemd service files yet. I intende

Re: submitters +1ing their own packages

On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 15:22 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-09-12 at 17:56 +0200, Nils Philippsen wrote: > > > > If there is > > > not enough karma for his package to bring it into the stable, then there > > > is probably time to ask somebody (probably on fedora-devel), to test > >

Re: Review request: Apache Traffic Server

On 09/13/2011 10:46 AM, Jan-Frode Myklebust wrote: > Could someone please help review the Apache Traffic Server: > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683463 > > I believe it should be more or less complete as far as I see it, > but the current reviewer doesn't have time to complete

Review request: Apache Traffic Server

Could someone please help review the Apache Traffic Server: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=683463 I believe it should be more or less complete as far as I see it, but the current reviewer doesn't have time to complete it so it's been stalled for months now.. -jf -- devel

Re: PostgreSQL 9.1 and Lucene Core for F16

On 09/12/2011 10:55 PM, Tom Lane wrote: Bruno Wolff III writes: On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 03:16:47 -0400, Tom Lane wrote: OK, it's built and filed at https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/postgresql-9.1.0-1.fc16 One thing I noticed is that service postgresql initdb and service postgresql

Re: Kudos to Tom "Spot" Callaway

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 12:05:29PM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote: > The fact that it is important for Fedora users, doesn't mean it must be > in the official Fedora repos (see MP3 codecs or other lovely programs in > non-Fedora repos). [...] I know. I was just reacting to Adam's argument "Given that

Re: What do rawhide testers want and expect?

On Mon, Sep 12, 2011 at 09:57:34AM -0600, Stephen John Smoogen wrote: > In reading the long trash each other fest that accompanies pre-release > jitters, could we start on a cleaner plate? What do the people who are > using rawhide day-in/day-out expect out of the channel? What level of > pain does

Re: Kudos to Tom "Spot" Callaway

Dne 13.9.2011 00:15, Jos Vos napsal(a): > I just started to use it myself and it is in some situations *so much* > faster than Firefox (on low-mem netbooks, for example), that I'm *very* > glad to have Spot's packages. Looking at Google's Chrome RPM, I would > definitely refuse to install it on an

libmash API bump

I'm intending to build a new version of libmash in rawhide. The only user I'm aware of is gnome-color-manager, which I'll also also rebuild. Thanks, Richard. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: What do rawhide testers want and expect?

Hi Stephen, Thanks for putting this issue on the table. I am using Rawhide as my primary development environment. Indeed it offers a mostly up-to-date development target for the next gnome release. But the situation is far from ideal, rawhide expectantly breaks major components once in a while (