Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Johannes Lips
Hello, what about using the Text Mode for the install? [1] According to the release notes it only needs 256MB of RAM so I think it should be feasible, or? [2] Are there anything preventing the usage of the textmode? Best regards, Johannes [1] http://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/Fedora/15/htm

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/21/2011 10:51 AM, Aditya Patawari wrote: >> Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using >> anaconda. > Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live, > anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before > installation. Live ins

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Aditya Patawari
> Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using > anaconda. Arun, lets use live installer. Anaconda won't help in schools. Live, anyway, has its advantages and kids/teachers can check it out before installation. -- Aditya Patawari http://blog.adityapatawari.com/ India -- d

Self Introduction

2011-08-20 Thread Jaroslav Imrich
Hey all, my name is Jaroslav I live in Slovakia (central europe) and I am the upstream author of ipwatchd - daemon that detects IP conflicts in Linux. I maintain ipwatchd packages in Debian and I've received few request from Fedora users that they would like to see it packaged as RPM. So here I

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Pete Zaitcev
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 11:31:55 -0700 John Reiser wrote: > > How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? > > Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition. It is not just Anaconda. F15 GA kernel would not even uncompress initramfs on anything below 1GB.

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Andre Robatino
Would it be possible to create a custom image that just does a minimal (possibly text-based) install? This might reduce memory requirements even more, and extra packages could be added later - the DVD could be used as a repo if bandwidth is an issue. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedorapro

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sat, 20 Aug 2011 20:31:55 +0200, John Reiser wrote: > Anaconda requires 768MB, and more (>=1GB) if there is no swap partition. [...] > Use the installer that is available on a Live spin, instead of using > anaconda. This reduces the memory requirements by 128MB: Fedora-15-i686-Live-Desk

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Grubb
On Saturday, August 20, 2011 02:17:04 PM Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Sat, 20.08.11 09:41, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:01 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > > Tim Waugh wrote: > > > > Oh, I just noticed this: > > > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
2011/8/20 Reindl Harald : > > > Am 20.08.2011 19:58, schrieb Lennart Poettering: >> On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: >> >>> WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares >>> about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? >>> >>> F15 is SEVEN vers

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 19:58, schrieb Lennart Poettering: > On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > >> WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares >> about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? >> >> F15 is SEVEN versions behind! > Like most packages in

Re: Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread John Reiser
> ... I understand that some one is working on reducing the memory footprint of > anaconda. > > Will it be ready for F16? The "treebuilder" branch of lorax, where such a project is being developed, is not complete today. > How much memory will anaconda require to install Fedora 16? Anaconda

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Clark
On 08/20/2011 08:09 AM, Lars Seipel wrote: On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket this is what the user expects and if your software-design is not able to act logically it is broken Stopping the service but leaving the poss

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.08.11 09:41, Steve Grubb (sgr...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:01 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > > Tim Waugh wrote: > > > Oh, I just noticed this: > > > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activa > > > tion "Since Fedora current

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.08.11 16:25, Reindl Harald (h.rei...@thelounge.net) wrote: > WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares > about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? > > F15 is SEVEN versions behind! Like most packages in Fedora systemd in released distributions is only updated

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Sat, 20.08.11 04:50, Kevin Kofler (kevin.kof...@chello.at) wrote: > > Tim Waugh wrote: > > Oh, I just noticed this: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation > > "Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand > > loading, all sock

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 14:09, schrieb Lars Seipel: > On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: >> if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket >> this is what the user expects and if your software-design >> is not able to act logically it is broken > Stopping the service but leavin

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
Am 20.08.2011 04:50, schrieb Kevin Kofler: > Tim Waugh wrote: >> Oh, I just noticed this: >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activation >> "Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand >> loading, all socket activated services must autosta

Anaconda memory requirements

2011-08-20 Thread Arun SAG
Hi, We are working on a remix(considering a spin) of Fedora that could be used in schools[1], The problem is, most of these schools in India use donated computers and have very less memory (256 Mb - 512 Mb). According to this blog post https://anonbadger.wordpress.com/2011/02/25/need-more-memory/

Re: systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/8/20 Reindl Harald : > WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares > about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? It's maintained - serious bugs are fixed. > > F15 is SEVEN versions behind! > > sometimes it seems nobody cares about GA-Releases to have > arguments upd

systemd in F15 orphaned?

2011-08-20 Thread Reindl Harald
WHY do F16 and F17 get permanently updated and nobody cares about the beta-release called F15 GA any longer? F15 is SEVEN versions behind! sometimes it seems nobody cares about GA-Releases to have arguments updating to the next as soon as possible where all will be better and the things which are

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Roman Rakus wrote: > Maybe the subject is a bit misleading, I will clarify it. > > Bash is using hash table to remember locations of executed commands. > Whenever you try to run a command bash looks in hash table. When the > command is found in table then bash will you full path name as it is in >

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Steve Grubb
On Friday, August 19, 2011 10:50:01 PM Kevin Kofler wrote: > Tim Waugh wrote: > > Oh, I just noticed this: > > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Guidelines:Systemd#Socket_activa > > tion "Since Fedora currently doesn't want any services to do on-demand > > loading, all socket activated

Re: fedora 15 didn.t detected my Wifi card.

2011-08-20 Thread Maciej Małecki
2011/8/20 Navdeep Singh Sidhu > > Hello, > I have installed fedora 15 on my portable hardisk. Recently i had updated my > fedora kernel to 2.6.40 nd now it is working fine but it didn't detected my > wifi card(Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 ). Need some help. Plz. > > Regards > Navdeep Singh Yo

fedora 15 didn.t detected my Wifi card.

2011-08-20 Thread Navdeep Singh Sidhu
Hello, I have installed fedora 15 on my portable hardisk. Recently i had updated my fedora kernel to 2.6.40 nd now it is working fine but it didn't detected my wifi card(Intel Centrino Advanced-N 6230 ). Need some help. Plz. Regards Navdeep Singh -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.or

rawhide report: 20110820 changes

2011-08-20 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Aug 20 08:15:14 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- FlightGear-2.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libosgViewer.so.74()(64bit) FlightGear-2.0.0-6.fc16.x86_64 requires libosgUtil.so.74()(64bit) FlightGear

Re: Default services enabled

2011-08-20 Thread Lars Seipel
On Sat, 2011-08-20 at 00:13 +0200, Reindl Harald wrote: > > if you can give a warning you can also stop the socket > this is what the user expects and if your software-design > is not able to act logically it is broken Stopping the service but leaving the possibility for later socket activation i

Re: Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On 08/20/2011 03:57 PM, Matěj Cepl wrote: > > Putting Firefox maintainers on CC to have a definite word on this, but > I suspect that Seamonkey is generally completely in the arms of > community. I guess if anybody wants to take it over formally in pkgdb > he would be welcome. > > Chris and Kai, am

Re: Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Matěj Cepl
Dne 20.8.2011 12:09, Rahul Sundaram napsal(a): Seamonkey hasn't been updated in a long time. Someone recently mentioned it in identi.ca and filed a bug report to update it. I was looking into it and the spec doesn't seem to be following the packaging guidelines. Source tarball seems to have

Seamonkey status

2011-08-20 Thread Rahul Sundaram
Hi Seamonkey hasn't been updated in a long time. Someone recently mentioned it in identi.ca and filed a bug report to update it. I was looking into it and the spec doesn't seem to be following the packaging guidelines. Source tarball seems to have created locally and doesn't point to a URL.

Re: RFC: Fedora-medical comps patch

2011-08-20 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Aug 20, 2011 at 11:28:38AM +0530, Ankur Sinha wrote: > Hello, > > You may have noticed a lot of packaging activity on the fedora-medical > front[1]. There are still quite a few packages in the review queue. Some > have been approved, and we'd like to get started with the comps group. > I'v

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Maciej Małecki
2011/8/20 Till Maas : > How can it increase disk searching in case the program is still there? > It needs to be fetched from the disk anyhow when it is run. Or am I > missing something here? It's just one stat with every command execution. If you're curious how it looks internally, findcmd.c:71 an

Re: Changing default setting of bash's hash table?

2011-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 01:24:37PM +0200, Roman Rakus wrote: > I have a question, if it is worth to enable this option by default? It > will not confuse some people, but can increase disk searching. Comments > welcome. How can it increase disk searching in case the program is still there? It ne

Re: Self Introduction

2011-08-20 Thread Till Maas
On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 10:49:23PM -0700, Steve Jenkins wrote: > On Fri, Aug 19, 2011 at 9:17 PM, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > > On 08/19/2011 06:02 AM, Steve Jenkins wrote: > >> Hi - the purpose of this email is to introduce myself as a prospective > >> new package maintainer for Fedora. > >> > >> My