Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-05-11)

2011-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:30UTC (1:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #515 Investigate a "features" repo for s

Re: Status of btrfs in rawhide

2011-05-10 Thread Josef Bacik
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 6:09 PM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 10.5.2011 23:49, Josef Bacik napsal(a): >> btrfs-progs hasn't changed much so you should be fine with whats in >> fedora.  If you want to be testing the latest and greatest it's >> probably better to either follow Chris's btrfs-unstable.git

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Tom Lane
Peter Jones writes: > It's fair to say that rawhide doesn't serve the same purpose any more - since > we're branching so much earlier, the thing that used to be rawhide is > essentially the branch. But the newer form of rawhide does have a feature - > it allows those of us working on multiple fea

F-15 Branched report: 20110510 changes

2011-05-10 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue May 10 13:16:07 UTC 2011 Broken deps for x86_64 -- db4o-7.4-2.fc13.x86_64 requires mono(Mono.GetOptions) = 0:2.0.0.0 dh-make-0.55-3.fc15.noarch requires debhelper file-browser-applet-0.6.6-1.fc15

Re: bnx2 driver fails to load on Fedora Rawhide

2011-05-10 Thread David Woodhouse
On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 09:04 -0800, Michael Chan wrote: > On Tue, 2011-01-18 at 04:00 -0800, David Woodhouse wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-01-17 at 15:04 +, Andy Gospodarek wrote: > > > > > > It looks like that firmware is in Linus' tree, but somehow it is not in > > > Woodhouse's linux-firmware tree

[Bug 703413] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-05-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=703413 --- Comment #4 from Fedora Update System 2011-05-10 18:19:59 EDT --- perl-Net-STOMP-Client-1.0-1.fc15 has been submitted as an

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Jóhann B. Guðmundsson
On 05/10/2011 09:08 PM, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 5/10/11 4:54 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: >> On Tue, 10 May 2011 13:07:22 -0400 >> Adam Jackson wrote: >>> If you need a usable system I recommend that you stay away from the >>> rawhide train until it hits alpha which is sometime late August if >>>

Re: Status of btrfs in rawhide

2011-05-10 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 10.5.2011 23:49, Josef Bacik napsal(a): > btrfs-progs hasn't changed much so you should be fine with whats in > fedora. If you want to be testing the latest and greatest it's > probably better to either follow Chris's btrfs-unstable.git tree or my > btrfs-work.git tree on kernel.org. Thanks,

File Net-STOMP-Client-1.0.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by stevetraylen

2011-05-10 Thread stevetraylen
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Re: Status of btrfs in rawhide

2011-05-10 Thread Josef Bacik
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:37 PM, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > Hi, > > Is rawhide following current btrfs development releases with kernel > patches and userland programs?  Or, should we role our own?  I am > interested in testing only. > btrfs-progs hasn't changed much so you should be fine with what

Status of btrfs in rawhide

2011-05-10 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
Hi, Is rawhide following current btrfs development releases with kernel patches and userland programs? Or, should we role our own? I am interested in testing only. TIA -- Regards, OldFart -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/

[389-devel] Please Review: (697961) memberOf needs to be triggered by internal operations

2011-05-10 Thread Nathan Kinder
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Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Peter Jones
On 05/10/2011 11:34 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Rawhide used to be something we could run to see where the distribution is > going and, perhaps, help a little bit with the quality assurance. More > recently, I've been told a few times that I should *not* be running > Rawhide and that the F15 bra

[Bug 701252] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-05-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701252 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

[Bug 701252] Upgrade to new upstream version

2011-05-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=701252 --- Comment #8 from Fedora Update System 2011-05-10 17:18:30 EDT --- perl-Directory-Queue-1.1-1.fc14 has been pushed to the Fed

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/10/11 4:54 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > On Tue, 10 May 2011 13:07:22 -0400 > Adam Jackson wrote: >> If you need a usable system I recommend that you stay away from the >> rawhide train until it hits alpha which is sometime late August if >> memory serves me correct. > > (http://permalink.gman

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 02:54:44PM -0600, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > The breakage is fine, one expects that. A fundamental breakage that the > relevant developers don't even notice for weeks is another question; as I > said, that suggests that people running Rawhide are few and far between. I'm con

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 10 May 2011 13:07:22 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: > All we had here was a case where one tool didn't catch a breakage because > the other bit of the tools weren't complete enough yet. I don't think > that's sufficient cause to question rawhide's existence. The breakage is fine, one expects

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 11:22:37AM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > > The resources have been put in, there are ABI checks in the RPMs but as ajax > > said, they don't work until the ABI is bumped upstream. > I'm thinking about making the xserver package export ABI majors of > md5sums of, well, someth

Outage over: Outage: pkgs.fedoraproject.org - 2011-05-10 17:00 UTC

2011-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Sorry for not sending this sooner. The outage on pkgs.fedoraproject.org should be complete. Please report any issues or problems found. kevin -- On Tue, 10 May 2011 10:47:10 -0600 Kevin Fenzi wrote: > A reminder that this outage will begin in about 15minutes. > > Outage: pkgs.fedoraprojec

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/10/11 1:41 PM, Casey Dahlin wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:07:22PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: >> X being broken in rawhide was in who knows how many peoples' ways, and >> even though it's provenpackager+ and even though all it would have taken >> was a mass driver rebuild, nobody even tri

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 01:07:22PM -0400, Adam Jackson wrote: > X being broken in rawhide was in who knows how many peoples' ways, and > even though it's provenpackager+ and even though all it would have taken > was a mass driver rebuild, nobody even tried. Where _are_ you people? > Why do I bot

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/10/11 12:23 PM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > I'm not talking about this week. The X11 problem was reported three weeks > ago, and the "don't run Rawhide" advice given to me came rather before > that. Rawhide has been an unusually painful place to be for some time > now, and a lot of people, I b

REMINDER: Outage: pkgs.fedoraproject.org - 2011-05-10 17:00 UTC

2011-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
A reminder that this outage will begin in about 15minutes. Outage: pkgs.fedoraproject.org - 2011-05-10 17:00 UTC There will be an outage starting at 2011-05-10 17:00 UTC, which will last approximately 1 hour. To convert UTC to your local time, take a look at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Infras

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 7:34 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Could it be that Fedora lacks the resources to maintain both Rawhide and > the next-release branch?  In retrospect, was No Frozen Rawhide as good an > idea as it seemed? I need to redo my tongue-n-cheek seasons of rawhide in the new No Fr

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 10 May 2011 12:04:22 -0400 Adam Jackson wrote: > > Things breaking in Rawhide are not a surprise; indeed, if it doesn't > > occasionally bite the hand that's feeding it, somebody probably isn't > > trying hard enough. But if it can remain this fundamentally broken for > > weeks because t

[perl-Net-SSLGlue] update to 0.6 (docfix)

2011-05-10 Thread Remi Collet
commit 2872ce2b1c18ab6003c987408011c9e3aea78d8e Author: remi Date: Tue May 10 18:14:28 2011 +0200 update to 0.6 (docfix) .gitignore|4 ++-- perl-Net-SSLGlue.spec |7 +-- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 8 insertions(+), 5 deletions(-) --- diff --gi

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 10 May 2011 09:34:34 -0600 Jonathan Corbet wrote: ...snip... > Rawhide used to be something we could run to see where the > distribution is going and, perhaps, help a little bit with the > quality assurance. More recently, I've been told a few times that I > should *not* be running Rawh

[perl-Task-Kensho-Toolchain] Initial push.

2011-05-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit 2acc8d443c5cb2520cf83f04e2a1f540ea3f16b6 Author: Marcela Mašláňová Date: Tue May 10 18:13:58 2011 +0200 Initial push. .gitignore |1 + perl-Task-Kensho-Toolchain.spec | 60 +++ sources |1 +

File Task-Kensho-Toolchain-0.27.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mmaslano

2011-05-10 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
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File Net-SSLGlue-0.6.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by remi

2011-05-10 Thread Remi Collet
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Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread darrell pfeifer
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 09:04, Adam Jackson wrote: > On 5/10/11 11:34 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > > > Things breaking in Rawhide are not a surprise; indeed, if it doesn't > > occasionally bite the hand that's feeding it, somebody probably isn't > > trying hard enough. But if it can remain this

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/10/11 11:34 AM, Jonathan Corbet wrote: > Things breaking in Rawhide are not a surprise; indeed, if it doesn't > occasionally bite the hand that's feeding it, somebody probably isn't > trying hard enough. But if it can remain this fundamentally broken for > weeks because the relevant develope

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-10 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/5/10 Miloslav Trmač : > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: >> On Tue, 10.05.11 02:17, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: >> >>> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Lennart Poettering >>> wrote: >>> > Countermeasures for the /dev/shm issue? I don't know of any.

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.05.11 17:35, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > Really, all I wanted to do in this subthread is to support the request > for a release note. > Mirek > > [1] How many users of Fedora would notice if the /dev/shm tmpfs was > limited to 512MB by default? And no, I'm _not_ advocat

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-10 Thread Miloslav Trmač
On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 10.05.11 02:17, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > >> On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Lennart Poettering >> wrote: >> > Countermeasures for the /dev/shm issue? I don't know of any. tmpfs >> > doesn't do quota. That's the k

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Jonathan Corbet
On Tue, 10 May 2011 11:18:54 +1000 Peter Hutterer wrote: > This is my fault, sorry. I updated the server but missed out on rebuilding > the drivers. And with one thing leading to another, Easter came, I forgot > about it and the above bug didn't show up on my radar until ajax pinged me > this mor

Re: Is Rawhide supposed to be useful?

2011-05-10 Thread Adam Jackson
On 5/9/11 9:18 PM, Peter Hutterer wrote: > The resources have been put in, there are ABI checks in the RPMs but as ajax > said, they don't work until the ABI is bumped upstream. I'm thinking about making the xserver package export ABI majors of md5sums of, well, something, whenever the build is

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-10 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 10.05.11 02:17, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > On Tue, May 10, 2011 at 1:33 AM, Lennart Poettering > wrote: > > On Tue, 10.05.11 01:31, Miloslav Trmač (m...@volny.cz) wrote: > > > >> > >> 2011/5/10 Stephen John Smoogen : > >> > Let's make this simple: > >> > > >> > FAQ: How can I

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
"Jóhann B. Guðmundsson" (johan...@gmail.com) said: > On 05/09/2011 08:38 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > a) people who manually change the IP address fo mysql to bind on > > specific ip addresses, manually also enable > > NetworkManager-wait-online.service. > > This proposal makes the assumptio

Re: informations about boot sequence (Re: F15 - mysql start problem)

2011-05-10 Thread Bill Nottingham
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said: > Neither b) nor c) is a hack; they're both improvements in behaviour > whether or not systemd is involved. It's simply more robust for a server > to be able to run before the network connection is available (and hence > across state changes). You don't

Re: Fedora 15 Final Change Deadline, and Outstanding Blocker Bugs

2011-05-10 Thread Rex Dieter
Mike Chambers wrote: > On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 04:34 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: >> This is your friendly reminder that we have reached the Final Change >> Deadline for Fedora 15. >> >> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines > > Without having the F15 schedule handy at the moment, is thi

Re: Fedora 15 Final Change Deadline, and Outstanding Blocker Bugs

2011-05-10 Thread Mike Chambers
On Tue, 2011-05-10 at 04:34 -0700, Robyn Bergeron wrote: > This is your friendly reminder that we have reached the Final Change > Deadline for Fedora 15. > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines Without having the F15 schedule handy at the moment, is this as of today and all updates s

Re: Changelog entries on older package

2011-05-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
2011/5/10 Kevin Fenzi : > On Tue, 10 May 2011 09:59:12 -0300 > Sergio Belkin wrote: > >> Hi, >> >> Let's say that you make a RPM for fedora, and then you want to make >> for epel5. Should I keep the fedora entries on changelog? > > I usually do, yes. It's history of the package... Good point > >

Fedora 15 Final Change Deadline, and Outstanding Blocker Bugs

2011-05-10 Thread Robyn Bergeron
This is your friendly reminder that we have reached the Final Change Deadline for Fedora 15. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Change_deadlines "After the change deadlines for the Final release no more updates are made to the branched development repository (e.g. /pub/fedora/linux/development/15).

[Bug 700047] perlbrew-0.19 is available

2011-05-10 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=700047 Iain Arnell changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: Changelog entries on older package

2011-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 10 May 2011 09:59:12 -0300 Sergio Belkin wrote: > Hi, > > Let's say that you make a RPM for fedora, and then you want to make > for epel5. Should I keep the fedora entries on changelog? I usually do, yes. It's history of the package... > Second question is somewhat silly, but I make i

Re: Interlinux waiting list

2011-05-10 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 10 May 2011 11:27:24 +0100 "Bryn M. Reeves" wrote: > On 05/10/2011 03:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 21:14 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: > >> Sorry... Did I miss something? > > > > I'd imagine someone signed an interlinux address up to the list, and > > that was an

Changelog entries on older package

2011-05-10 Thread Sergio Belkin
Hi, Let's say that you make a RPM for fedora, and then you want to make for epel5. Should I keep the fedora entries on changelog? Second question is somewhat silly, but I make it, just in case. Let's say that you want to make a epe6 package too. I've read at http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packagi

File IO-Socket-SSL-1.41.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2011-05-10 Thread Paul Howarth
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Interlinux waiting list

2011-05-10 Thread dbrasher
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Re: Interlinux waiting list

2011-05-10 Thread Bryn M. Reeves
On 05/10/2011 03:05 AM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Mon, 2011-05-09 at 21:14 -0300, Sergio Belkin wrote: >> Sorry... Did I miss something? > > I'd imagine someone signed an interlinux address up to the list, and > that was an automated response. Right - that was my assumption too. I met the owner

Interlinux waiting list

2011-05-10 Thread dbrasher
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