On 04/26/2011 10:19 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> James Antill wrote:
There may well be plenty of good uses for such a soft dependency ..
For example it sounds useful for R which has a hard depend on texlive
at the moment - but its only used for docs - so it would be way way
better to be a soft
Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 21:59 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
>> It seems to be saying after much head-scratching and decoding that an
>> update to dist-f14 (ie. the original ancient released version without
>> updates) would fail, but how could anyone do that?
>
> By usin
James Antill wrote:
> rpm5 isn't used anywhere, so is irrelevant to any discussion on
> anything.
It's used in PLD and Ark Linux, at least. (Ark Linux is Bernhard
Rosenkränzer's project, the ex-RH-KDE-maintainer who has just as much a
grudge against RH as RPM5's Jeff Johnson, so it's no wonder
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#topic #515 Investigate a "features" repo for s
On 04/19/2011 05:49 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> Actually it looks like I was even lazier than that and just built it
> from source. I seem to be running 2.32.52. I just needed whatever
> version would interoperate with my Mandriva machines.
Good news is current unison builds just fine with the ex
Marco wrote:
>>I see something similar on my work machine with ATI (unsure of the
>>actual card specs). I've worked around this by switching to the TTY
>>which I did startx from and sending it a ^C. This has worked for me
>>flawlessly so far.
>
> Hi, thank you for your suggestion but in my case,
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On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 21:59 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> Here is the update:
>
> https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libguestfs-1.6.2-1.fc13.7
>
> Here's the failed test result:
>
> http://autoqa.fedoraproject.org/results/87921-autotest/qa03.c.fedoraproject.org/upgradepath/results/outp
Here is the update:
https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libguestfs-1.6.2-1.fc13.7
Here's the failed test result:
http://autoqa.fedoraproject.org/results/87921-autotest/qa03.c.fedoraproject.org/upgradepath/results/output.log
This is pretty confusing.
Why does it mention other packages != li
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 19:11:16 +0200, KK wrote:
> > Will you resurrect the packages when their package maintainer retires
> > them after F-15 gold despite of you having fixed them to build?
>
> Retiring the packages is evil in the first place, and IMHO we're making it
> way too easy. Packages shou
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Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> > > the generic workaround is 'use nm-connection-editor'. Does that work?
> >
> > That should certainly work to set it up; however, if it's not offered
> > through the shell icon (as that bug indicates), it will make it
> > tricky to bring up.
>
> Ah
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 14:24 -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote:
> Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> > On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 18:30 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > Is there any workaround for setting up a DSL connection
> > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 13:55 -0400, James Antill wrote:
> rpm5 isn't used anywhere, so is irrelevant to any discussion on
> anything.
Since Mandriva and Mageia split, Per Oyvind got to be Mandriva's RPM
maintainer, and they have (not surprisingly) adopted RPM5. Not to say I
think it's a good idea
Dne 26.4.2011 18:23, Florian Festi napsal(a):
> I think if anybody can come up with a exact description how they should
> look like and how they should work and can create some evidence that
> this is want we need and want implementing them is not the problem[*].
> Until now no one has come up with
Adam Williamson (awill...@redhat.com) said:
> On Sat, 2011-04-23 at 18:30 +0300, Marius Andreiana wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Is there any workaround for setting up a DSL connection
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693151
> > ?
>
> the generic workaround is 'use nm-connection-editor
Hi,
On 04/25/2011 02:00 PM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Package gpx-viewer in Fedora 15 has been retired by fab
> Package gpx-viewer in Fedora 14 has been retired by fab
> Package gpx-viewer in Fedora 13 has been retired by fab
> Please complete the package end-of-life procedure,
I have just start
On 04/26/2011 01:11 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Retiring the packages is evil in the first place, and IMHO we're making it
> way too easy. Packages should only get retired if they are replaced by
> something different with equivalent or superior functionality or if they
> really cannot be made to wo
On 04/26/2011 11:25 PM, James Antill wrote:
> SuSE with rpm+zypper does have recommends/suggests, and is "somewhat"
> close to rpm+yum (kind of). But I don't know how much it is used ... and
> I don't know what it's behaviour is. I also don't know what problems
> they solve with it, and how well i
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 19:23 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Florian Festi wrote:
> > I think if anybody can come up with a exact description how they should
> > look like and how they should work and can create some evidence that
> > this is want we need and want implementing them is not the problem[*
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On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 09:57 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 18:23 +0200, Florian Festi wrote:
>
> > > I have to defend Seth here ... in the last flamewar on this theme he
> > > admitted that introducing Suggests/Recommends would be question of half
> > > an hour (maybe he did
On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 18:23 +0200, Florian Festi wrote:
> > I have to defend Seth here ... in the last flamewar on this theme he
> > admitted that introducing Suggests/Recommends would be question of half
> > an hour (maybe he didn't mean it literally) and he would be willing to
> > do it in the m
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On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> Initially (1st try), I tried a "customized package set". I was warned
> about a long series of missing deps. The install however proceeded and
> ended with anaconda raising before-mentioned error.
>
> Then, (2nd try) I tried a "default
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On Sun, 2011-04-24 at 16:35 +, Ben Boeckel wrote:
> deal with in these cases) than "some packets were lost". An option to
> "persist connections despite something probably not actually existing"
> would be nice for situations like this.
Or, more simply, just a short time-out on cable disconne
Florian Festi wrote:
> I think if anybody can come up with a exact description how they should
> look like and how they should work and can create some evidence that
> this is want we need and want implementing them is not the problem[*].
> Until now no one has come up with a proposal and enough co
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On Fri, 2011-04-22 at 07:55 +0200, Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> I decided to reinstall using netinstall.iso.
Just a general note here: during pre-release time netinstall is always
more likely to have trouble than media install. We test installation of
the pre-release media (Alpha, Beta) quite heavily.
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Will you resurrect the packages when their package maintainer retires
> them after F-15 gold despite of you having fixed them to build?
Retiring the packages is evil in the first place, and IMHO we're making it
way too easy. Packages should only get retired if they are r
commit 3001da8796587c280c0d153ad2d4295d3a7cb7d1
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Update to 0.005
- New upstream release 0.005:
- Fix the logic that picks tests for 5.13.1+
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> Hello,
>
> Is there any workaround for setting up a DSL connection
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=693151
> ?
the generic workaround is 'use nm-connection-editor'. Does that work?
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On 04/26/2011 05:21 PM, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Dne 26.4.2011 15:31, Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
>> AIUI, Suggests/Recommends was almost accepted in rpm.org (BTW, rpm5.org has
>> had it for ages), but the yum developers blocked it. :-/
Well, having Suggests/Recommends in RPM only does buy you anything as
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Dne 26.4.2011 15:31, Kevin Kofler napsal(a):
> AIUI, Suggests/Recommends was almost accepted in rpm.org (BTW, rpm5.org has
> had it for ages), but the yum developers blocked it. :-/
I have to defend Seth here ... in the last flamewar on this theme he
admitted that introducing Suggests/Recommends
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On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 16:21 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> > I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
> >
> > Having lots of parts of poor quality doesn't raise the global quality of
> > Fedora. Having only a few parts, each of excellent quality, does.
>
> If you r
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1.37 bump
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1.83 bump
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On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:31 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Daniel Mach wrote:
> > From my POV, RPM Requires should contain only deps which are *required*
> > for a particular package. Suggests/Recommends is really missing
>
> AIUI, Suggests/Recommends was almost accepted in rpm.org (BTW, rpm5.org h
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add explicit perl(Dist::CheckConflicts) requirement
perl-Moose.spec |7 ++-
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On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:26:40 +0200, KK wrote:
> > Arbitrary provenpackagers spending time on rebuilding semi-orphaned
> > packages (or even incorrectly retired packages) isn't helpful.
>
> Actually, IMHO it is.
Will you resurrect the packages when their package maintainer retires
them after F-15
Mathieu Bridon wrote:
> I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
>
> Having lots of parts of poor quality doesn't raise the global quality of
> Fedora. Having only a few parts, each of excellent quality, does.
If you really NEED a certain piece of software (for a job, for a hobby or
fo
commit 54a98a85bdd771843974b24d18f7df8e09bc2d46
Author: Marcela Mašláňová
Date: Tue Apr 26 16:19:22 2011 +0200
and add BR for creating desktop files.
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Upload padre.desktop
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On Tue, 2011-04-26 at 15:43 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> it is better to have the package (even if it's poorly
> maintained) than to not have it at all!
I think that's where some of us disagree with you.
Having lots of parts of poor quality doesn't raise the global quality of
Fedora. Having only
commit a08d45e61abd7ecc428ee6cb03aae1351c411d98
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Kevin Fenzi wrote:
> How do you (as provenpackager) know whats broken? Do you look over bug
> reports for packages you fix? Do you talk with upstream and check for
> bugs there or new releases? Do you use the package day to day and fix
> or report issues you run into?
>
> Or do you just fix it so
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 15:26:40 +0200
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > Arbitrary provenpackagers spending time on rebuilding semi-orphaned
> > packages (or even incorrectly retired packages) isn't helpful.
>
> Actually, IMHO it is. We should work together as a community and get
> r
Daniel Mach wrote:
> From my POV, RPM Requires should contain only deps which are *required*
> for a particular package. Suggests/Recommends is really missing
AIUI, Suggests/Recommends was almost accepted in rpm.org (BTW, rpm5.org has
had it for ages), but the yum developers blocked it. :-/
IMH
Michael Schwendt wrote:
> Arbitrary provenpackagers spending time on rebuilding semi-orphaned
> packages (or even incorrectly retired packages) isn't helpful.
Actually, IMHO it is. We should work together as a community and get rid of
this idea that packages are owned by one person (or a short li
On 04/26/2011 11:51 AM, Petr Pisar wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 22, 2011 at 11:00:46PM +0800, Robin Lee wrote:
>>
>> Some dual-life modules, like PathTools and CGI, are placed within
>> vendor path in Fedora 15. This situation is not expected by some
>> applications, for example, "cpanm -L" command will de
>I see something similar on my work machine with ATI (unsure of the
>actual card specs). I've worked around this by switching to the TTY
>which I did startx from and sending it a ^C. This has worked for me
>flawlessly so far.
Hi, thank you for your suggestion but in my case, when the problem occou
Hi all, I'm a RH QA engineer located in Brno. I searched the web for some nice
command line calendar which could track events and I found pal [1]. It is
practical and I'm using it.
It is a simple piece of code, included in Debian, but not yet in Fedora. So for
me this looks not only like a usefu
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Dne 26.4.2011 09:36, Richard W.M. Jones napsal(a):
> A simple 'Recommends:', known about by RPM but
> otherwise ignored by RPM, would allow tools that knew they were
> talking to a real person to make a sensible list of recommendations
> based on the packages the user already had installed or was a
Dne 26.4.2011 09:11, Ilyes Gouta napsal(a):
>> Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam.
>
>
> So this is Latin, what does it mean?
>
> Btw, I'm from Tunisia (Tunis), the country of Carthage (historically) ;)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est ... it is used for
somebody who
Dne 26.4.2011 07:57, Matej Cepl napsal(a):
> Dne 25.4.2011 21:26, Ilyes Gouta napsal(a):
>> Christoph Wickert provided an analysis in
>> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263
>
> Which again lead to my broken gramophone song … we suck for not having
> Suggests/Recommends. Ceterum autem
On Tue, 26 Apr 2011 08:11:20 +0100, IG wrote:
> Hi Matěj,
>
> > Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam.
>
>
> So this is Latin, what does it mean?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carthago_delenda_est
Note that the translated meaning is less interesting than how this
phrase has been used
On Tue, Apr 26, 2011 at 07:57:37AM +0200, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Dne 25.4.2011 21:26, Ilyes Gouta napsal(a):
> > Christoph Wickert provided an analysis in
> > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=699263
>
> Which again lead to my broken gramophone song … we suck for not having
> Suggests/Reco
On Mon, 25 Apr 2011 15:33:23 -0400, BN wrote:
> > > We consider broken deps within the set of packages included in the
> > > released images to block the release, but there are none of those in
> > > Beta. Broken deps outside the package set that gets on images aren't
> > > really as important.
>
Hi Matěj,
> Ceterum autem censeo, Carthaginem esse delendam.
So this is Latin, what does it mean?
Btw, I'm from Tunisia (Tunis), the country of Carthage (historically) ;)
-Ilyes
On 26 avr. 2011, at 06:57, Matej Cepl wrote:
> Dne 25.4.2011 21:26, Ilyes Gouta napsal(a):
>> Christoph Wickert p
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