Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 14:51:50 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: > > 3) All the various little tools that we have for putting together > LiveCD's that are very ext* centered. I've not even looked at this > yet, but I assume it's going to be kind of a pain. I like to see live CDs just use squashfs d

ABRT bugs for EOL products

2011-02-22 Thread Orion Poplawski
I just got an ABRT bug for a Fedora 12 package [1]. Can we prevent bugs being filed for EOL products? Who needs to handle this? Is this a known issue? Thanks! - Orion [1] - https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679584 -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Jon Masters
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: > 2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use > BTRFS's built in volume management, again just for the default. In my personal opinion, this is a poor design decision. Yes, BTRFS can do a lot of volume-y things, and th

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Josef Bacik
2011/2/22 Jóhann B. : > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: >> So what are your thoughts?  Thanks, > > Will there be any performance penalties making this move? > Who knows, thats what testing is for :). There are some things that suck with BTRFS, but so it goes with filesystems

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Josef Bacik
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Lennart Poettering wrote: > On Tue, 22.02.11 14:51, Josef Bacik (jo...@toxicpanda.com) wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> So we're getting close to having a working fsck tool so I wanted to >> take the opportunity to talk about the future of BTRFS in Fedora. >> Coming up in

Re: state of systemd in Fedora and services pledge

2011-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 22.02.11 12:19, Toshio Kuratomi (a.bad...@gmail.com) wrote: > 2011/2/22 Michał Piotrowski : > > Hi, > > > > I wonder what is the actual state of Fedora systemd integration? I > > hope that there is more systemd native services than listed on > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg

Orphaning some (GNOMEy) packages

2011-02-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
Here's the list of packages, with reasons: - gnome-launch-box, replaced by gnome-shell's builtin features (mostly, filed bugs for the rest) - libgalago, libgalago-gtk, replaced within GNOME with session-wide features, but could still be used by supported applications. First come, first serve. Ch

Re: fail to install gcc on fresh rawhide-from-F15

2011-02-22 Thread James Antill
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 22:38 +0100, Jim Meyering wrote: > Hi, > > With some effort, and help from the guys on #anaconda@freenode (thanks!), > today I finally installed a bare-metal F15 system (part of the complication > was my existing partitions). > > Then I updated it to rawhide. However, the w

Re: state of systemd in Fedora and services pledge

2011-02-22 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
2011/2/22 Michał Piotrowski : > Hi, > > I wonder what is the actual state of Fedora systemd integration? I > hope that there is more systemd native services than listed on > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability > > Currently I have quite a lot of work, but I make a

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread B.
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 14:51 -0500, Josef Bacik wrote: > So what are your thoughts? Thanks, Will there be any performance penalties making this move? I ran it on my workstation when F13 came out with updates+snapshots and while updating my desktop responsiveness was well not so good. Novice en

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Josef Bacik writes: 2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use BTRFS's built in volume management, again just for the default. Just to clarify -- F16 will still have LVM, but not used by default. I believe that there's a huge number of existing systems that are part

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Jim Meyering
[...btrfs and read-only root,/etc...] Music to my ears. Glad you're working on this. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: fail to install gcc on fresh rawhide-from-F15

2011-02-22 Thread Jussi Lehtola
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 22:38:24 +0100 Jim Meyering wrote: > With some effort, and help from the guys on #anaconda@freenode > (thanks!), today I finally installed a bare-metal F15 system (part of > the complication was my existing partitions). > > Then I updated it to rawhide. However, the whole poi

[Bug 679589] New: [abrt] perl-Padre-0.64-1.fc14: Process /usr/bin/perl was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: [abrt] perl-Padre-0.64-1.fc14: Process /usr/bin/perl was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679589 Summary: [abrt] perl-

[Bug 679589] [abrt] perl-Padre-0.64-1.fc14: Process /usr/bin/perl was killed by signal 11 (SIGSEGV)

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679589 --- Comment #1 from Simon Lachance 2011-02-22 17:20:27 EST --- Created attachment 480282 --> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/atta

Re: state of systemd in Fedora and services pledge

2011-02-22 Thread B.
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 20:40 +0100, Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, > > I wonder what is the actual state of Fedora systemd integration? I > hope that there is more systemd native services than listed on > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability I'm planning on review

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 22.02.11 14:51, Josef Bacik (jo...@toxicpanda.com) wrote: > Hello, > > So we're getting close to having a working fsck tool so I wanted to > take the opportunity to talk about the future of BTRFS in Fedora. > Coming up in F15 we're going to have the first release of Fedora where > we don'

[Bug 679313] perl-SDL is out of date 2.1.3-13 (~2007)

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679313 Fedora Update System changed: What|Removed |Added --

fail to install gcc on fresh rawhide-from-F15

2011-02-22 Thread Jim Meyering
Hi, With some effort, and help from the guys on #anaconda@freenode (thanks!), today I finally installed a bare-metal F15 system (part of the complication was my existing partitions). Then I updated it to rawhide. However, the whole point of this was to be able to compile and test some things, ye

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Genes MailLists
On 02/22/2011 02:51 PM, Josef Bacik wrote: > Hello, > > So we're getting close to having a working fsck tool so I wanted to > take the opportunity to talk about the future of BTRFS in Fedora. > Coming up in F15 we're going to have the first release of Fedora where ... > > So what are your thou

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Lumens
> > 1) GRUB support. Edward Shishkin did GRUB1 patches for BTRFS a while > > ago, but they were obviously never merged upstream and were also not > > included into fedora. These would either need to be cleaned up and > > put into our grub package, or we'd need to put /boot on a different > > file

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Josef Bacik
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 3:00 PM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:51:50 -0500 > Josef Bacik wrote: > >> Hello, >> >> So we're getting close to having a working fsck tool so I wanted to >> take the opportunity to talk about the future of BTRFS in Fedora. > ...snip... > >> 1) GRUB suppor

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Chris Lumens
> 1) Fedora 16 ships with BTRFS as the default root filesystem. > 2) Fedora 16 ships without LVM as the volume manager and instead use > BTRFS's built in volume management, again just for the default. > > 2) Anaconda support. I've already talked with Will Woods about this > some. Really anaconda

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-02-23)

2011-02-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 20:55:26 +0100 Michał Piotrowski wrote: > Hi, ...snip... > > > > #544 List of services that may start by default > > .fesco 544 > > Please post a log after the meeting I always do. ;) Note that I wasn't sure if we are even going to discuss that this week, as it's still s

Re: Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 14:51:50 -0500 Josef Bacik wrote: > Hello, > > So we're getting close to having a working fsck tool so I wanted to > take the opportunity to talk about the future of BTRFS in Fedora. ...snip... > 1) GRUB support. Edward Shishkin did GRUB1 patches for BTRFS a while > ago, bu

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-02-23)

2011-02-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, 2011/2/22 Kevin Fenzi : > Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo > meeting tomorrow at 17:30UTC (12:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on > irc.freenode.net. > > Links to all tickets below can be found at: > https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 > > = Followups = > > #

Plans for BTRFS in Fedora

2011-02-22 Thread Josef Bacik
Hello, So we're getting close to having a working fsck tool so I wanted to take the opportunity to talk about the future of BTRFS in Fedora. Coming up in F15 we're going to have the first release of Fedora where we don't need the special boot option to have the ability to format you filesystem as

Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2011-02-23)

2011-02-22 Thread Kevin Fenzi
Following is the list of topics that will be discussed in the FESCo meeting tomorrow at 17:30UTC (12:30pm EDT) in #fedora-meeting on irc.freenode.net. Links to all tickets below can be found at: https://fedorahosted.org/fesco/report/9 = Followups = #topic #516 Updates policy adjustments/change

state of systemd in Fedora and services pledge

2011-02-22 Thread Michał Piotrowski
Hi, I wonder what is the actual state of Fedora systemd integration? I hope that there is more systemd native services than listed on https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/User:Johannbg/QA/Systemd/compatability Currently I have quite a lot of work, but I make a systemd services pledge - I'll write three

Re: systemd fail-to-boot in rawhide

2011-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Tue, 22.02.11 12:55, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote: > > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:40:51PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > the same time. That should give you a minimal idea on what is going > > on. However no progress bar. In the syslog output the progress bar would > > not ma

KDE-SIG meeting report (08/2011)

2011-02-22 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
This is a report of the weekly KDE-SIG-Meeting with a summary of the topics that were discussed. If you want to add a comment please reply to this email or add it to the related meeting page. = Weekly KDE Summary = Week: 08/2011 Time: 2011-02-22 15:00 UTC Meeting page: https://fedoraproject.o

Re: systemd fail-to-boot in rawhide

2011-02-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 01:40:51PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > the same time. That should give you a minimal idea on what is going > on. However no progress bar. In the syslog output the progress bar would > not make much sense probably. fsck (at least in the ext234 > implementation) support

Re: rawhide report: 20110219 changes - requires perl(Gtk2::

2011-02-22 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 02/22/2011 10:45 AM, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:57:20 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: >> On a more abstract level one may consider perl's META.yml-machinery to >> be a package dependency tracking machinery of its own, in parallel to >> rpm's dependency tracking machinery, with

Re: [Test-Announce] Fedora 15 Alpha RC1 Available Now!

2011-02-22 Thread Gregory Woodbury
On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 9:00 PM, Andre Robatino wrote: > Fedora 15 Alpha RC1 is now available [1]. Please refer to the following > pages for download links and testing instructions. > > Installation: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Results:Current_Installation_Test > > Desktop: > > https:

Re: Trying to contact David Zeuthen for nonresponsive maintainer process

2011-02-22 Thread Matthew Miller
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 02:05:07PM +, Bastien Nocera wrote: > Most of the people in the maintainers list are members of the desktop > team at Red Hat, the group which owned the package when it was migrated > from Fedora Core to Fedora. I doubt any of them are interested in > maintaining it. I'

Re: Which fonts should be pulled in by desktop environments as dependencies?!

2011-02-22 Thread Kevin Kofler
Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le Lun 21 février 2011 22:27, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit : >> Thanks for the answer. I also thought that it is reasonable, but wanted >> to make sure before calling others for it. I just wonder if it is >> possible to have group dependencies in comps.xml or by packages! Wha

Re: Trying to contact David Zeuthen for nonresponsive maintainer process

2011-02-22 Thread Bastien Nocera
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 13:52 +0100, Tim Niemueller wrote: > On 22.02.2011 05:00, Bastien Nocera wrote: > > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 00:57 +0100, Tim Niemueller wrote: > >> Is David still around? > > > > Yes, and hacking on GNOME 3. > > And no five minutes to care about older duties or at least reply?

Re: systemd fail-to-boot in rawhide

2011-02-22 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 13:40 +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > Or maybe the whole problem set goes away by doing nothing since btrfs > has no fsck? ;-) > When I spoke with Josef a couple of weeks ago he said btrfs would be getting a fsck very soon. borne out by this comment from Chris: http://w

Re: installation of my own rpm in a Fedora without internet

2011-02-22 Thread seth vidal
On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 09:29 -0300, Domingo Becker wrote: > 2011/2/19 Dominic Hopf : > >> > >> I think that a just installed Fedora box should have the ability to > >> install software from an usb stick without the need of an internet > >> connection. > >> > >> Think about a computer with F14 for ma

Re: rpm: working with locale files

2011-02-22 Thread Jakub Jedelsky
Dne 22.2.2011 09:47, Michal Nowak napsal(a): > - Original Message - >> Hi list, >> >> I'm new in rpm building and want to prepare a package for webapp >> Habari >> (review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673630) >> but.. I >> have a problem with locale files, which are

Re: Trying to contact David Zeuthen for nonresponsive maintainer process

2011-02-22 Thread Tim Niemueller
On 22.02.2011 05:00, Bastien Nocera wrote: > On Tue, 2011-02-22 at 00:57 +0100, Tim Niemueller wrote: >> Is David still around? > > Yes, and hacking on GNOME 3. And no five minutes to care about older duties or at least reply? Too bad. >> resolve the issues surrounding Festival? > > I've asked

[Bug 679380] New: perl-Coro-5.371 is available

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-Coro-5.371 is available https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679380 Summary: perl-Coro-5.371 is available Product: Fedora Vers

Re: systemd fail-to-boot in rawhide

2011-02-22 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 21.02.11 22:45, Matthew Miller (mat...@mattdm.org) wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 21, 2011 at 03:54:14PM +0100, Lennart Poettering wrote: > > > Updated to this morning's rawhide. Rebooted. Now, I get to mounting my > > > filesystems, which works succesfully, and then it just sits there. > > I nee

Re: installation of my own rpm in a Fedora without internet

2011-02-22 Thread Domingo Becker
2011/2/19 Dominic Hopf : >> >> I think that a just installed Fedora box should have the ability to >> install software from an usb stick without the need of an internet >> connection. >> >> Think about a computer with F14 for managing something in a place >> without internet connection (I have seve

[perl-Mojolicious/f15/master] Update to latest upstream 1.11

2011-02-22 Thread Yanko Kaneti
commit 157efecf23344ac0b6c3c47b8bef47a90392e208 Author: Yanko Kaneti Date: Tue Feb 22 12:55:14 2011 +0200 Update to latest upstream 1.11 .gitignore|1 + perl-Mojolicious.spec | 10 +- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 7 insertions(+), 6 deletions(

File Mojolicious-1.11.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by yaneti

2011-02-22 Thread Yanko Kaneti
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Mojolicious: ac3ba29a1f4d0d2f837668dd3bbb83ec Mojolicious-1.11.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailm

Re: rawhide report: 20110219 changes - requires perl(Gtk2::

2011-02-22 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 06:57:20 +0100, Ralf Corsepius wrote: > On a more abstract level one may consider perl's META.yml-machinery to > be a package dependency tracking machinery of its own, in parallel to > rpm's dependency tracking machinery, with the essentially the same > issues, problems and i

Re: Which fonts should be pulled in by desktop environments as dependencies?!

2011-02-22 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le Lun 21 février 2011 22:27, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit : > > > > On ۱۱/۰۲/۲۲ 12:30, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Le lundi 21 février 2011 à 21:42 +0330, Hedayat Vatankhah a écrit : >> >>> Now, as is being discussed in [1], which fonts should be pulled by a >>> desktop environment as its dependenci

[Bug 679313] perl-SDL is out of date 2.1.3-13 (~2007)

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679313 --- Comment #2 from Fedora Update System 2011-02-22 04:21:16 EST --- perl-SDL-2.2.6-1.fc15 has been submitted as an update for

[Bug 679313] perl-SDL is out of date 2.1.3-13 (~2007)

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679313 Hans de Goede changed: What|Removed |Added -

[perl-SDL/f15/master] - Rebase to 2.2.6 upstream release (#679313)

2011-02-22 Thread Hans de Goede
Summary of changes: b0a8882... - Rebase to 2.2.6 upstream release (#679313) (*) (*) This commit already existed in another branch; no separate mail sent -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https:

[perl-SDL] - Rebase to 2.2.6 upstream release (#679313)

2011-02-22 Thread Hans de Goede
commit b0a8882f1eb8a47fc631c5b0d44c23e05d4d31f7 Author: Hans de Goede Date: Tue Feb 22 09:58:58 2011 +0100 - Rebase to 2.2.6 upstream release (#679313) .gitignore |1 + filter-provides.sh |2 +- perl-SDL-gfxPie.patch | 34 -

File SDL_Perl-v2.2.6.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by jwrdegoede

2011-02-22 Thread Hans de Goede
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-SDL: 445950ca7b9991f34ec792bbac8386b6 SDL_Perl-v2.2.6.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listin

Re: rpm: working with locale files

2011-02-22 Thread Michal Nowak
- Original Message - > Hi list, > > I'm new in rpm building and want to prepare a package for webapp > Habari > (review request: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=673630) > but.. I > have a problem with locale files, which are situated in > %{_datadir}/habari/system/locale. When

[Bug 679313] New: perl-SDL is out of date 2.1.3-13 (~2007)

2011-02-22 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. Summary: perl-SDL is out of date 2.1.3-13 (~2007) https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=679313 Summary: perl-SDL is out of date 2.1.3-13 (~2007) Product