Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:22 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > * Try and test in a reasonably user-ish environment, not your own highly > > customized one; if this means using a separate user account or a VM, do > > > Note about this second bullet: I'm not sure this is good advice. There's > been

Fedora 12 End of Life

2010-12-02 Thread Kevin Fenzi
This announcement is a reminder that as of 2010-12-02, Fedora 12 has reached its end of life for updates and support. No further updates, including security updates, will be available for Fedora 12. Fedora 13 will continue to receive updates until approximately one month after the release of Fedo

Re: vfork() semantics changed: ERESTARTNOINTR

2010-12-02 Thread Roland McGrath
> On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 09:27:34AM -0800, John Reiser wrote: > > vfork() can fail with ERESTARTNOINTR which is 513 > > and somewhat young. 'make' did not know: > >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659382 > > > > If your package has any shell-like feature > > then it might be good

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 01:16:18PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 12:30 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > > On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:25:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:10 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > > > > That being the case, I test the pack

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 12:30 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:25:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:10 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > > > That being the case, I test the package fairly rigorously myself. But > > > this process doesn't take that i

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 15:43 -0500, Clyde E. Kunkel wrote: > >> That being the case, I test the package fairly rigorously myself. But > >> this process doesn't take that into account. I test far more things > >> than you get with a few people just doing smoke tests, but the smoke > >> tests are a

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Clyde E. Kunkel
On 12/02/2010 02:25 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:10 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > >> My package in question (mdadm) is only used in certain circumstances, >> but if it isn't right, systems fail to boot. I can certainly see why >> something that can render a machine unbootab

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:25:03AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:10 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > > That being the case, I test the package fairly rigorously myself. But > > this process doesn't take that into account. I test far more things > > than you get with a few p

Re: exiv2 soname bump

2010-12-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.12.2010 15:18, Matej Cepl napsal(a): > Dne 1.12.2010 15:59, Rex Dieter napsal(a): >> I've done a few test builds of the items below, and the only one that >> ftbfs is pyexiv2 (a usual suspect, being a low-level binding). > > https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyexiv2/+bug/684177 > > I will work wit

Re: Unresponsive maintainer for libical

2010-12-02 Thread Rahul Sundaram
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 10:44 PM, Milan Crha wrote: >Hi, > I realized that the maintainer of libical, Debarshi Ray, seem to be > unresponsive for quite a long time, not doing updates for libical. > > Copying him directly. He did do a recent Gnote upstream release. Rahul -- devel mailing

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 17:32 -0800, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > We don't have an automated process for showing people the rest of the wiki > pages with packager information either. If we added the information to this > page: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Package_Review_Process > > after step #9,

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 14:10 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > My package in question (mdadm) is only used in certain circumstances, > but if it isn't right, systems fail to boot. I can certainly see why > something that can render a machine unbootable should be critpath. > However, because only a few

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Doug Ledford
On 12/01/2010 05:17 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:55 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > >> The comparison is 100% fair because it points out the fundamental >> problem with the current policy: if you don't have a paid staff of >> testers to make sure testing is done in a timely f

[389-devel] Please Review: (658309) Managed Entries plugin appears not to be escaping $$ correctly

2010-12-02 Thread Nathan Kinder
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=658309 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=464324&action=edit -- 389-devel mailing list 389-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/389-devel

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 19:19 +0100, Till Maas wrote: > A big difference is that the testing process is very fuzzy and there is > not much tooling that helps people to test unknown software. E.g. if I > want to review a package, there are several checklists I could use and > there are guidelines tha

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Till Maas
On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 02:17:32PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 16:55 -0500, Doug Ledford wrote: > > > The comparison is 100% fair because it points out the fundamental > > problem with the current policy: if you don't have a paid staff of > > testers to make sure testing

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread François Cami
th mechanisms which *optionally >> > support* LDAP, but even that is obviously used by >0 people. >> >> jlaska just gave me the list of packages marked critpath in rawhide: >> http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20101202/logs/critpath.txt >> 389

Re: vfork() semantics changed: ERESTARTNOINTR

2010-12-02 Thread Kyle McMartin
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 09:27:34AM -0800, John Reiser wrote: > vfork() can fail with ERESTARTNOINTR which is 513 > and somewhat young. 'make' did not know: >https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659382 > > If your package has any shell-like feature > then it might be good to check for v

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
used by >0 people. > > jlaska just gave me the list of packages marked critpath in rawhide: > http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20101202/logs/critpath.txt > 389-ds, cobbler, httpd, libvirt, mysql, postgresql, puppet, vsftpd are > not in the list. My guess is therefore that most server packag

vfork() semantics changed: ERESTARTNOINTR

2010-12-02 Thread John Reiser
vfork() can fail with ERESTARTNOINTR which is 513 and somewhat young. 'make' did not know: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659382 If your package has any shell-like feature then it might be good to check for vfork(). -- -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https:/

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread François Cami
heir systems but gets brought in > because it's a dependency of various auth mechanisms which *optionally > support* LDAP, but even that is obviously used by >0 people. jlaska just gave me the list of packages marked critpath in rawhide: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/mash/rawhide-20

Re: Valgrind Suppression Files

2010-12-02 Thread Tom Callaway
On 12/02/2010 11:48 AM, Nathanael D. Noblet wrote: > Hello, > >So I'm writing a gstreamer/gtk app and was doing some memory leak > checking. I needed to find the gstreamer suppression file for running > under valgrind. I couldn't find it in any of the rpms and I'm wondering > if package sup

Unresponsive maintainer for libical

2010-12-02 Thread Milan Crha
Hi, I realized that the maintainer of libical, Debarshi Ray, seem to be unresponsive for quite a long time, not doing updates for libical. There are filled two bugs with a request to do an update, the first [1] from 2009-09-27 notifying about a release of 0.44, and then the second [2] from

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-12-02 at 13:20 +0100, François Cami wrote: > Of course, we could look at things differently: for a package to be > marked critpath, it should have users or be a dependency of some other > package with users. This is pretty inevitably implicit in the current definition of critpath - p

Valgrind Suppression Files

2010-12-02 Thread Nathanael D. Noblet
Hello, So I'm writing a gstreamer/gtk app and was doing some memory leak checking. I needed to find the gstreamer suppression file for running under valgrind. I couldn't find it in any of the rpms and I'm wondering if package suppression files are ever packaged, if not should they be, if so

Re: Introducing wicked

2010-12-02 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2010-11-26 at 10:24 +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: > On Thursday 25 November 2010 21:29:30 Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 05:24:37PM +0100, Olaf Kirch wrote: > > > You may ask, don't we have enough of those already? Don't we have > > > NetworkManager, connman, netcf, and a

[Bug 659050] perl-pip-1.19 is available

2010-12-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659050 Marcela Mašláňová changed: What|Removed |Added -

[perl-pip] Update to 1.19

2010-12-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
commit eb7414d0b368311f299a933dfec82a1e305a2e69 Author: Marcela Mašláňová Date: Thu Dec 2 15:23:59 2010 +0100 Update to 1.19 .gitignore|1 + perl-pip.spec | 50 +++--- sources |2 +- 3 files changed, 41 insertions(+), 12 dele

File pip-1.19.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by mmaslano

2010-12-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-pip: c1065275c4e17fd9e86455e4d0503a52 pip-1.19.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/perl

Re: exiv2 soname bump

2010-12-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 1.12.2010 15:59, Rex Dieter napsal(a): > I've done a few test builds of the items below, and the only one that > ftbfs is pyexiv2 (a usual suspect, being a low-level binding). https://bugs.launchpad.net/pyexiv2/+bug/684177 I will work with upstream to fix it. Best, Matěj -- devel mailing

[perl-PPIx-Utilities] Created tag perl-PPIx-Utilities-1.001000-1.fc15

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
The lightweight tag 'perl-PPIx-Utilities-1.001000-1.fc15' was created pointing to: 77e6ce6... Update to 1.001000 -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinf

[perl-PPIx-Utilities] Update to 1.001000

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
commit 77e6ce692669113ca0a7897b57d4bd2527c008c4 Author: Paul Howarth Date: Thu Dec 2 14:01:58 2010 + Update to 1.001000 New upstream release 1.001000 - Add support for Const::Fast to PPIx::Utilities::Statement .gitignore |2 +- perl-PPIx-Utilities.spec |

File PPIx-Utilities-1.001000.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by pghmcfc

2010-12-02 Thread Paul Howarth
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-PPIx-Utilities: 4dc113960205173cf114ae3bdaa37f61 PPIx-Utilities-1.001000.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject

Re: GCC bug 634757 F14 rebuild status

2010-12-02 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 2.12.2010 08:26, Jakub Jelinek napsal(a): > Or don't use %{_smp_mflags} for make install, just for make. > Parallelized make install doesn't work for many packages, and doesn't buy > much anyway. Done http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/taskinfo?taskID=2639180 And I sincerely hope this is the

Review swap

2010-12-02 Thread Dmitrij S. Kryzhevich
Hi! I want to suggest review swap. Here are mine: kaudiocreator[1] - Program for ripping and encoding Audio-CDs k4dirstat[2] - Graphical Directory Statistics for Used Disk Space Both are rather simple. Dmitrij. [1] https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=649425 [2] https://bugzilla.redhat.

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread François Cami
On Thu, Dec 2, 2010 at 1:32 AM, Matt McCutchen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 14:17 -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: >> >> When software is packaged it's reasonable to expect that someone, >> somewhere, uses it; if they don't, it probably shouldn't be packaged. We >> need to find those people and eng

Re: rawhide report: 20101202 changes

2010-12-02 Thread Tomasz Torcz
On Thu, Dec 02, 2010 at 11:24:22AM +, Rawhide Report wrote: > tesseract-langpack-3.00-1 > - > * Wed Dec 01 2010 Karol Trzcionka - 3.00-1 It is missing “.fc15” part in version. -- Tomasz Torcz ,,(...) today's high-end is tomorrow's embedded processor.'' xmpp:

Re: mpfr soname bump in rawhide

2010-12-02 Thread Marcela Mašláňová
On 12/01/2010 07:19 PM, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Wed, 2010-12-01 at 09:13 -0600, Bruno Wolff III wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 01, 2010 at 10:31:59 +0100, >> Dodji Seketeli wrote: >>> Indeed. But just curious, how do one "arranges a tag"? Is this >>> documented somewhere? Or you just have to file a t

[Bug 659045] perl-App-cpanminus-1.1004 is available

2010-12-02 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=659045 Petr Sabata changed: What|Removed |Added ---

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread François Cami
On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 10:34 PM, Luke Macken wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 01:36:18PM +, Petr Pisar wrote: >> On 2010-11-29, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >> > >> > Proven testers do get copies of these emails (dozens of them) and its >> > a

rawhide report: 20101202 changes

2010-12-02 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Thu Dec 2 08:15:04 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) db4o-7.4-2.fc13.x86_6

Re: old_testing_critpath notifications

2010-12-02 Thread Petr Pisar
On 2010-12-01, Luke Macken wrote: > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 01:36:18PM +, Petr Pisar wrote: >> On 2010-11-29, Peter Robinson wrote: >> > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 9:56 AM, Petr Pisar wrote: >> > >> > Proven testers do get copies of these emails (dozens of them) and its >> > also summarised in