Re: Unison (was: Re: Milmeister Mass-Orphaning Request)

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-11-20 at 07:19 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:14:22PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 19:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:29:09PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > > > "RWMJ" == Richar

Unison (was: Re: Milmeister Mass-Orphaning Request)

2010-11-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:14:22PM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 19:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:29:09PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > > "RWMJ" == Richard W M Jones writes: > > > > > > RWMJ> I will take ocaml* and unison

Re: Plan for tomorrow's FESCo meeting (2010-11-17)

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 08:13 +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > * F12 critical path/update testing issues. (does it matter this close to > > EOL?) > > Now Fedora n-1 is F13 and we're already seeing the same sort of issues there > (e.g. the KDE 4.5.3 (non-critpath) bugfix update ha

pulseaudio crashes: non-responsive maintainer Lennart Poettering

2010-11-19 Thread Jan Kratochvil
Hello, filed month+ ago: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=643296 Simple fix of memory corruption affecting various applications incl. Firefox. Completed "Policy for nonresponsive package maintainers" there, got an off-list reply but still no fix commit or commit rights approva

Re: Milmeister Mass-Orphaning Request

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 19:00 +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Tue, Nov 16, 2010 at 12:29:09PM -0600, Jason L Tibbitts III wrote: > > > "RWMJ" == Richard W M Jones writes: > > > > RWMJ> I will take ocaml* and unison*. > > > > I have orphaned them; feel free to take ownership. > > Done, t

Re: The new Update Acceptance Criteria are broken

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-11-16 at 17:22 -0500, Luke Macken wrote: > On Fri, Nov 12, 2010 at 11:46:36AM -0800, Adam Williamson wrote: > > On Fri, 2010-11-12 at 14:32 -0500, Tom Lane wrote: > > > > > It's absolutely crystal clear to me that we don't have enough tester > > > manpower to make the current policy w

Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Mon, 2010-11-15 at 10:23 -0500, Nathaniel McCallum wrote: > libconcord-0:0.21-10.fc14.i686 > libconcord-0:0.21-10.fc14.x86_64 This one's a bit tricky, as it does something unique that you can't do any other way (it lets you program Logitech Harmony remote controls - Logitech only provide a too

Re: Meego and Navit ? Was Re: Fedora 15, new and exciting plans

2010-11-19 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 14:15 -0700, Linuxguy123 wrote: > I realize that most people on this mailing list are focused on > infrastructure and server/desktop usage. > > But some of us are looking forward to using future Fedora releases on > tablets in vehicular infotainment systems. > > To this en

Re: Firefox, Aspell, and GPL/LGPL

2010-11-19 Thread Andrew McNabb
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:35:03PM -0500, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Firefox's spell checker just complained at me about "theater". It > wants me to spell it as "theatre", instead. There's an open bug about this since Fedora 9: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=439598 Unfortunately, it h

Firefox, Aspell, and GPL/LGPL

2010-11-19 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Firefox's spell checker just complained at me about "theater". It wants me to spell it as "theatre", instead. Running aspell from the command line confirmed that it had to problems with the Yankee spelling, so Firefox must be using its own dictionary, instead of aspell. I distinctly remember a

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Brendan Jones
> Good grief man, that's almost everybody who watches the BBC on their > computer! > Yeah - flash is a necessary evil which I'd rather do without but cannot (Australian ABC iView in my case!). -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/d

Kernel crash via gnome usb disk mount

2010-11-19 Thread nodata
I have two btrfs usb disks. If I attach them both at roughly the same time to my computer, and Gnome is running, the computer freezes permanently. If Gnome is not running, it doesn't crash. Can anyone else reproduce this? I haven't tested with any other filesystem yet. Thanks. -- devel maili

Re: Welcoming New Fedora Program Manager Robyn Bergeron

2010-11-19 Thread Christopher Brown
Hi John, On 15 November 2010 23:44, John Poelstra wrote: > Jared Smith made an announcement in his blog [1] about some upcoming > personnel changes in Fedora.  I wanted to make a specific announcement > to the Fedora lists as well. > > Through the end of 2010 and a little bit beyond, I will be wo

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Brendan Jones
> Isn't there any way we can update the icon cache spec to add a checksum > or something? Or is the corruption just wrong data, not bad data? I > periodically get nm-applet crashes due to a bad icon cache that I'd > rather not have to care about... > As an aside, I have noticed nm-applet crashes

Rawhide kernel image no longer readable

2010-11-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
Kyle, >From latest Rawhide kernel.rpm: * Wed Nov 17 2010 Kyle McMartin - Make vmlinuz/System.map root read-write only by default. You can just chmod 644 them later if you (unlikely) need them without root. This completely breaks libguestfs. We need to be able to read the kernel image in orde

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 19.11.2010 15:40, Przemek Klosowski napsal(a): > - freeze glibc to avoid this bug ever (OK, maybe this one isn't serious) > - fix glibc or the flash wrapper to accommodate the buggy clients > - bug Adobe to fix the bug ASAP, do nothing in Fedora > - refuse to use flash and work towards replacin

Fedora Board Election IRC Town Hall transcript

2010-11-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
The Fedora Board Town Hall happened today at 15:00 UTC. The transcript of the townhall is at the following URL: Log: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2010-11-19/board-townhall.2010-11-19-14.59.log.html Minutes: http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-townhall/2010-11-19/board-town

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Colin Walters
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 3:38 PM, Dan Williams wrote: > > Isn't there any way we can update the icon cache spec to add a checksum > or something?  Or is the corruption just wrong data, not bad data? Likely a lot of these are simply data corruption on power loss (Unix default). We can try to avoid

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dan Williams
On Fri, 2010-11-19 at 13:46 -0500, Dave Jones wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 01:23:26PM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > > Hi, > > > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > > > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > > > > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. > >

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dave Jones
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 01:23:26PM -0500, Ray Strode wrote: > Hi, > > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. > > >  gdm[1622]: #9  0x0032031195aa in gtk_icon_theme_lookup_ic

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Jeff Spaleta
Just to be clear this is F14 updates testing you are referring to? -jef On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:15 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Ralf Ertzinger
Hi. On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:15:01 -0500, Dave Jones wrote > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. While this is certainly unfortunate, isn't that what u-t is for? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Ray Strode
Hi, On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 12:15 PM, Dave Jones wrote: > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. >  gdm[1622]: #9  0x0032031195aa in gtk_icon_theme_lookup_icon () from > /usr/lib64/libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0 >  gdm[1622]: #10 0x00320311a08c in

Re: updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 12:15:01 -0500 Dave Jones wrote: > Wtf happened in updates-testing ? > > gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. I'm not seeing this here. ;( Not sure whats going on. Try reverting glibc update I guess? kevin signature.asc Description: PGP signature -- dev

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 11/19/2010 06:15 PM, Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 06:16:14PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: >> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway >> wrote: >>> >>> The Java Packaging Guidelines have been revised: >>> https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java >>> Diff: >>>

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Alexander Kurtakov
On 07:33:18 pm Friday, November 19, 2010 Toshio Kuratomi wrote: > On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 06:16:14PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway > > > > wrote: > > > The Java Packaging Guidelines have been revised: > > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packa

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Jesse Keating
On 11/19/10 2:38 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > C, Java and Python are not the only programming languages in the world. In case you missed it, I was poking fun at C as well. -- Jesse Keating Fedora -- Freedom² is a feature! identi.ca: http://identi.ca/jkeating -- devel mailing list devel@lis

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 06:16:14PM +0200, Ville Skyttä wrote: > On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway > wrote: > > > > The Java Packaging Guidelines have been revised: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java > > Diff: > > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packagi

updates-testing trainwreck.

2010-11-19 Thread Dave Jones
Wtf happened in updates-testing ? gdm and a bunch of other stuff crashes on startup.. NetworkManager[1059]: [1290185488.399900] [nm-manager.c:1332] user_proxy_init(): could not init user settings proxy: (3) Could not get owner of name 'org.freedesktop.NetworkManagerUserSettings': no such nam

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Jason L Tibbitts III
> "VS" == Ville Skyttä writes: VS> It seems that the %jpackage_script tip/guideline did not make it VS> into this revision, was there a reason for that or did it just fall VS> through the cracks? That was not part of the draft which we considered. Currently there are no Java-related drafts

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 4:23 PM, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > > The Java Packaging Guidelines have been revised: > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Java > Diff: > https://fedoraproject.org/w/index.php?title=Packaging%3AJava&diff=206526&oldid=154023 It seems that the %jpackage_script tip/g

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 02:23:22PM +0100, Nils Philippsen wrote: > On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:50 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > > rpm %post and %postun scripts have been added for the following > > important pieces of GNOME3 technology: GSettings, gdk-pixbuf loaders, > > GTK3 modules, and GIO mo

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-19 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Thursday 18 November 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Does this even need %pretrans at all? Rex Dieter used this in kde-settings- > kdm: > %pre kdm > ## KDM fixup(s) > # [snip similar hack for a moved/symlinked %config file] > # handle %%_datadir/config/kdm -> /etc/kde/kdm > [ -d %{_datadir}/config/

[Bug 652158] Use of :locked is deprecated

2010-11-19 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=652158 --- Comment #4 from Harold Campbell 2010-11-19 11:01:45 EST --- The :locked error goes away, but now there is this: Constant

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread David Malcolm
On Thu, 2010-11-18 at 21:12 -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 11/18/10 10:58 AM, Doug Ledford wrote: > > - "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > >>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:29:56PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > Most code is not performance critical. > >>> > >>> Much more code than you think

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Ewan Mac Mahon
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:34:08AM +, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/19/2010 08:11 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > > > > People who switch from Fedora because of broken Flash are probably not > > people we should be most eager to retain. > > Good grief man, that's almost everybody who watches the BBC on

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Kevin Kofler
Louis Lagendijk wrote: > There is one more reason to revert the change imho: abusing memcpy this > way is seen more often. Then those programs must be fixed. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: x86_64 rawhide: Poweroff just shuts down

2010-11-19 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Fri, 19.11.10 10:05, Horst H. von Brand (vonbr...@inf.utfsm.cl) wrote: > Try as I may, for some time now I can't get my machines to poweroff. I've > got 3 machines affected: A Toshiba Satellite Pro U400, a Samsung N210 > netbook and a white box old dual-core AMD64 (that one has an idiotic BIOS

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Przemek Klosowski
On 11/19/2010 03:11 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 18.11.2010 16:39, Magnus Glantz napsal(a): >> It's very important that Fedora doesn't rub upstream the wrong way, but >> (if it should come to that, or is already happening) is it worth having >> people change from Fedora to other distributions? > > P

Re: Changes in Java packaging guidelines - RFC

2010-11-19 Thread Stanislav Ochotnicky
On 11/18/2010 01:59 PM, Panu Matilainen wrote: > On Thu, 18 Nov 2010, Ville Skyttä wrote: > >> On Wednesday 17 November 2010, Kevin Kofler wrote: >>> Ville Skyttä wrote: I'd get rid of the versioned javadoc dir altogether, and simply install to %{_javadocdir}/%{name}. Unversioned is goo

Re: x86_64 rawhide: Poweroff just shuts down

2010-11-19 Thread Michal Schmidt
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:05:20 -0300 Horst H. von Brand wrote: > Try as I may, for some time now I can't get my machines to poweroff. The BZ you reported is waiting for info from you: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=642347 Michal -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org http

Re: [Guidelines Change] Changes to the Packaging Guidelines

2010-11-19 Thread Nils Philippsen
On Wed, 2010-11-17 at 14:50 -0500, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > rpm %post and %postun scripts have been added for the following > important pieces of GNOME3 technology: GSettings, gdk-pixbuf loaders, > GTK3 modules, and GIO modules: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:ScriptletSnippets#GS

Re: x86_64 rawhide: No CPU frequency scaling anymore?

2010-11-19 Thread Petr Sabata
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:53:21AM -0300, Horst H. von Brand wrote: > After yesterday's updates, on login to Gnome a error message shows up > saying that "CPU Frequency scaling is unsupported", and claims either > misconfiguration or just isn't supported. It used to word fine before > that. In /var

x86_64 rawhide: Poweroff just shuts down

2010-11-19 Thread Horst H. von Brand
Try as I may, for some time now I can't get my machines to poweroff. I've got 3 machines affected: A Toshiba Satellite Pro U400, a Samsung N210 netbook and a white box old dual-core AMD64 (that one has an idiotic BIOS that sometimes doesn't shutdown/poweroff properly, but now it is completely consi

x86_64 rawhide: No CPU frequency scaling anymore?

2010-11-19 Thread Horst H. von Brand
After yesterday's updates, on login to Gnome a error message shows up saying that "CPU Frequency scaling is unsupported", and claims either misconfiguration or just isn't supported. It used to word fine before that. In /var/log/messages nothing shows up. Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU t5...@1.80ghz, s

rawhide report: 20101119 changes

2010-11-19 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Fri Nov 19 08:15:29 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0()(64bit) beagle-0.3.9-19.fc14.x86_64 requires libmono.so.0(VER_1)(64bit) bognor-regis-0.6.11-1

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 09:12:51PM -0800, Jesse Keating wrote: > On 11/18/10 10:58 AM, Doug Ledford wrote: > > - "Richard W.M. Jones" wrote: > >>> On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:29:56PM -0500, Gregory Maxwell wrote: > > Most code is not performance critical. > >>> > >>> Much more code than yo

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:34:08AM +, Andrew Haley wrote: > On 11/19/2010 08:11 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > > Dne 18.11.2010 16:39, Magnus Glantz napsal(a): > >> It's very important that Fedora doesn't rub upstream the wrong way, but > >> (if it should come to that, or is already happening) is it

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread drago01
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:39 AM, Richard Zidlicky wrote: > On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:28:58PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > > thanks for looking at it. > >> > However for some of the reports it is only the matter of someone looking >> > at them as they contain the obvious solution to the problem.

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Richard Zidlicky
On Thu, Nov 18, 2010 at 06:28:58PM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: thanks for looking at it. > > However for some of the reports it is only the matter of someone looking > > at them as they contain the obvious solution to the problem. > > > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=595165 > > htt

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Andrew Haley
On 11/19/2010 08:11 AM, Matej Cepl wrote: > Dne 18.11.2010 16:39, Magnus Glantz napsal(a): >> It's very important that Fedora doesn't rub upstream the wrong way, but >> (if it should come to that, or is already happening) is it worth having >> people change from Fedora to other distributions? >

[Bug 654771] perl-Padre-0.74 is available

2010-11-19 Thread bugzilla
Please do not reply directly to this email. All additional comments should be made in the comments box of this bug. https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=654771 Petr Pisar changed: What|Removed |Added

[Fwd: Fwd: Fedora Specspo package]

2010-11-19 Thread Andrew Martynov
Hello, devel team! We have a problem with updating translation of Specspo package. Current maintainer wrote us letter (see below). Could somebody help up to solve this problem? Are there people who want to be new maintainer of Specspo package? Andrew Martynov Fedora Russian Translation Team --

Re: Fixing the glibc adobe flash incompatibility

2010-11-19 Thread Matej Cepl
Dne 18.11.2010 16:39, Magnus Glantz napsal(a): > It's very important that Fedora doesn't rub upstream the wrong way, but > (if it should come to that, or is already happening) is it worth having > people change from Fedora to other distributions? People who switch from Fedora because of broken F