Re: rawhide report: 20101107 changes

2010-11-07 Thread Jens Petersen
> alex-2.3.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) : > ghc-Boolean-0.0.1-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) : : > ghc-zlib-0.5.2.0-4.fc14.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) : > xmobar-0.11.1-4.fc15.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.

Re: Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-07 Thread Digimer
On 10-11-07 07:00 PM, Felix Miata wrote: > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 > > The older: > > 1-began life with equivalent summary: "system-config-display fails " > > 2-contains same comment 0 informa

Why should I ever bother filing another bug?

2010-11-07 Thread Felix Miata
https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=623742 was duped to newer bug https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=624297 The older: 1-began life with equivalent summary: "system-config-display fails " 2-contains same comment 0 information as the latter 3-was directed to be filed by triager

Changes in FAmSCo and why it matters, or how to get stuff.

2010-11-07 Thread David Nalley
As you may know, FAmSCo among other things, is responsible for handling a portion of Fedora's discretionary budget.[0],[1]. We typically run under-budget, sometimes by a relatively large amount. FAmSCo recognizes that leaving money on the table every quarter is effectively a lost opportunity. There

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 16:41 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:52:02PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > > Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 14:21 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > > > > > > Why throw away everything just so we can make input better? > > > > Beca

Re: Should gpg use alternatives?

2010-11-07 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:20:02PM -0400, Sam Varshavchik wrote: > Should gpg 1.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg1, gpg 2.x be installed as > /usr/bin/gpg2 (as is already the case), and /usr/bin/gpg replaced > with a symlink managed by alternatives? > If you check the list archives, this has come up

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 17:36, Vaclav Mocek wrote: > Hi all, > > I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am > wondering  whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of > attack, at least to some extent. Ok there are several different "cold boot attacks". The one I th

Re: RemoveSETUID feature (Was: Summary/Minutes from today's FESCo meeting (2010-10-26) NEW TIME!)

2010-11-07 Thread Lennart Poettering
On Mon, 01.11.10 20:28, Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) wrote: > > On Mon, Nov 01, 2010 at 07:19:15PM +, Paul Howarth wrote: > > Any suggestions? > > We've encountered some funny things about tmpfs before: It doesn't > support O_DIRECT at all, for example, necessitating workarounds in

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Bruno Wolff III
On Sun, Nov 07, 2010 at 18:44:48 +0100, Jan Kratochvil wrote: > On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:36:58 +0100, Vaclav Mocek wrote: > > I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am > > wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of > > attack, at least to some extent

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Jan Kratochvil
On Sun, 07 Nov 2010 00:36:58 +0100, Vaclav Mocek wrote: > I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am > wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of > attack, at least to some extent. If you have physical access to the box there is no security left. Att

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Dennis Jacobfeuerborn
On 11/06/2010 07:39 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:28:08PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: >> First I think you should probably head over to the Wayland mailing list and >> get involved there. That's something I also recommend to Richard because if >> you want certai

Re: Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Digimer
On 10-11-06 07:36 PM, Vaclav Mocek wrote: > Hi all, > > I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am > wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of > attack, at least to some extent. > > I work like an Embedded SW/HW Developer and my experience is that d

Re: fedora 14: pulseaudio eating cpu and memory without reason...

2010-11-07 Thread Orcan Ogetbil
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 3:43 PM, Marius Andreiana wrote: > Hi, > > Even when not playing any audio, pulseaudio uses CPU and memory >   PID USER  PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND >  2257 marius    20   0  941m 7524 3188 S  2.9  0.4  14:22.57 chrome >  2956 marius    20   0 202

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Josh Boyer
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 12:41 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:52:02PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: >> Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 14:21 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : >> > >> > Why throw away everything just so we can make input better? >> >> Because those are just

proventester needed: libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13

2010-11-07 Thread Julian Sikorski
Dear proventesters, please add karma to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13 This should be relatively harmless, as there was only one fix in the upstream code since 1.14.17: fix of writing compressed files. Julian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org htt

Unresponsive maintainer ixs alias Andreas Thienemann (fast track?)

2010-11-07 Thread Till Maas
Hi everyone, I just noticed that Andreas Thienemann seems to be unresponsive: There are 48 open bugs assigned to him including 3 security bugs: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/buglist.cgi?resolution=---&emailtype1=exact&query_format=advanced&emailassigned_to1=1&bug_status=NEW&bug_status=ASSIGNED&bug_

nouveau & gnome-shell (was: Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland)

2010-11-07 Thread Alex Hudson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:00 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: > You mention gnome shell but not nouveau, how do you enable the missing > 3d support for Nouveau? There's an Mesa package labelled "experimental" you need to install. I don't know what the subset of hardware it works for is, but my Quadro N

rawhide report: 20101107 changes

2010-11-07 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sun Nov 7 08:15:34 UTC 2010 Broken deps for x86_64 -- abrt-gui-1.1.13-2.fc15.x86_64 requires libnotify.so.1()(64bit) alex-2.3.3-1.fc14.x86_64 requires libHSffi-ghc6.12.3.so()(64bit) apcupsd-3.14.8-3

proventester needed: libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13

2010-11-07 Thread Julian Sikorski
Dear proventesters, please add karma to https://admin.fedoraproject.org/updates/libgsf-1.14.18-1.fc13 This should be relatively harmless, as there was only one fix in the upstream code since 1.14.17: fix of writing compressed files. Julian -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org htt

Multilib issue with hard-coded paths in mash script

2010-11-07 Thread Christian Krause
Hi, During the F14 release cycle gtk2 was updated from 2.20.x to 2.22.x. During this change gdk-pixbuf2 was split off into a separate package and the location of the gdk-pixbuf loaders has changed from: F13: /usr/lib/gtk-2.0/2.10.0/loaders/ to F14: /usr/lib/gdk-pixbuf-2.0/2.10.0/loaders This cau

Fedora - Cold Boot Attack

2010-11-07 Thread Vaclav Mocek
Hi all, I have read some articles about the Cold Boot Attacks and I am wondering whether my Fedora box is protected against such kinds of attack, at least to some extent. I work like an Embedded SW/HW Developer and my experience is that data could remain in the dynamic memory for quite long t

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Camilo Mesias
Hi, >> how do you enable the missing 3d support for Nouveau? > > It came with mesa-dri-drivers-experimental. I just wanted to say thanks, I am running with this now, it seems to be "certainly more than adequate" ;-) to run gnome shell. No more akmod-nvidia for a while! -Cam -- devel mailing lis

Should gpg use alternatives?

2010-11-07 Thread Sam Varshavchik
Should gpg 1.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg1, gpg 2.x be installed as /usr/bin/gpg2 (as is already the case), and /usr/bin/gpg replaced with a symlink managed by alternatives? pgpiqSHAQTCkm.pgp Description: PGP signature -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedor

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 16:00 +, Camilo Mesias wrote: > You mention gnome shell but not nouveau, how do you enable the missing > 3d support for Nouveau? And does it only work for a subset of > hardware? I'd be interested to try it. Lately I just get: > > Accelerated 3D graphics is not available

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Adam Williamson
On Sat, 2010-11-06 at 15:48 +, Ben Boeckel wrote: > Camilo Mesias wrote: > > [..] As much as I love Nouveau's freeness, last time I > > checked I couldn't even run gnome shell on it. > > I was doing that back in November[1]. It depends on your hardware. Works on some cards, doesn't on others

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Casey Dahlin
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 10:57:27AM +, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > We want to ditch extremely useful, ground-breaking features because of > "tearing" when scrolling in a browser window? [I do *not* see any of I actually read it as we want to ditch features that were groundbreaking in 1975 since

fedora 14: pulseaudio eating cpu and memory without reason...

2010-11-07 Thread Marius Andreiana
Hi, Even when not playing any audio, pulseaudio uses CPU and memory PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEMTIME+ COMMAND 2257 marius20 0 941m 7524 3188 S 2.9 0.4 14:22.57 chrome 2956 marius20 0 2026m 537m 9612 S 2.9 26.8 27:40.42 java 1500 marius20 0 437

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 02:43, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: > On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 01:36:43AM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: >> On 11/06/2010 12:21 AM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote: >> > On Fri, Nov 05, 2010 at 03:16:11PM -0400, Bill Nottingham wrote: >> >> Richard W.M. Jones (rjo...@redhat.com) s

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Garrett Holmstrom
On 11/6/2010 11:28, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > As for the "if all apps are ported to Wayland I will not be able to use > them remotely anymore" I think this is bogus. Nowadays virtually all > application aren't X application but gtk/qt applications and the toolkits > tend to support different b

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 05:28:08PM +0100, Dennis Jacobfeuerborn wrote: > First I think you should probably head over to the Wayland mailing list and > get involved there. That's something I also recommend to Richard because if > you want certain features to be present now is a good time to make y

Re: libpoppler soname bump in rawhide

2010-11-07 Thread Rex Dieter
Marek Kasik wrote: > I plan to rebase poppler in rawhide to poppler-0.15.1. There are some > API changes and 1 soname bump of libpoppler.so.8 to libpoppler.so.9. > API changes mostly involve addition of new functions (see below). OK, all rebuilds have been done or are still building. 2 notable f

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 04:52:02PM +0100, Nicolas Mailhot wrote: > Le samedi 06 novembre 2010 à 14:21 +, Richard W.M. Jones a écrit : > > > > Why throw away everything just so we can make input better? > > Because those are just the examples I know where X11 has been blocking > progress for *

Re: Ubuntu moving towards Wayland

2010-11-07 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Nov 06, 2010 at 03:14:57PM +, Pierre Carrier wrote: > On Sat, Nov 6, 2010 at 13:51, Camilo Mesias wrote: > >> With virtualization I have more Linux machines than ever (about 50 in > >> active use at last count).  All on my local 1GB network.  Consequently > >> I use X to them and to ot