Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 18:03 -0400, seth vidal a écrit :
> On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> 3. you want a preview of the fonts - then we need that data somewhere -
> is it in each font pkg?
It would be (generating a svg or png with some font shapes at package
build tim
On Fri, 2010-08-20 at 03:46 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> The "lesser of 2 evils" is no solution. Only NO evil at all will keep the
> user's freedom. Users should NEVER use proprietary software, be it as
> JavaScript or using a proprietary protocol.
Shouldn't users be free to make that decision
Michael Cronenworth wrote:
> Kevin, if you took off your FSF blindfold you would see that it's better
> for web sites to use JavaScript. If they complied to /your/ wishes we
> would have a thousand proprietary protocols, probably all /closed/
> source, to communicate in between /closed/ source appl
Will 2.6.34 pushed to stable?
My question is because there were also some > 2.6.30 builds for
F11 which never rolled out and it could possible relax some things
in combination with VMware / open-vm-tools
https://bugzilla.rpmfusion.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1373
I see this two builds in my test-vm form
>> world, is that everything is being done at the application layer
>> (level 4) of the OSI model, a fact which gives a rather unique
Should actually read:
at the application layer
(level 4) of the TCP/IP model, a fact which gives a rather unique
-Ilyes Gouta
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 11:25 PM, J
On Thursday, August 19, 2010 05:00:56 pm Orion Poplawski wrote:
> How log do we keep koji build logs? It would be nice to be able to see the
> build logs for http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=110266,
> but they do not appear to be available.
We keep logs for completed builds as
On 08/19/2010 02:07 PM, Ilyes Gouta wrote:
> Hi,
>
>> As always Kevin I agree with you. These people don't understand basic OSI
>> network layers; rather obvious textbook stuff.
>
> The cool thing about JS and all what's happening today in the browser
> world, is that everything is being done at
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 23:46 +0200, Nicolas Mailhot wrote:
> Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 22:55 +0200, drago01 a écrit :
>
> > This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow
> > that and only display apps by default in the GUI.
>
> This is a very naïve position. For example, even in
Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Sorry, but I don't think exposing our users to remote arbitrary code
> execution (!) vulnerabilities just to make web apps a bit faster is a
> reasonable tradeoff.
Kevin, if you took off your FSF blindfold you would see that it's better
for web sites to use JavaScript. If th
How log do we keep koji build logs? It would be nice to be able to see the
build logs for http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=110266,
but they do not appear to be available.
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Ilyes Gouta wrote:
> How about a very well maintained open source piece of software, such
> as Firefox, WebKit and WebKit2 (http://trac.webkit.org/wiki/WebKit2),
> as a source of that generated native code at runtime? This would
> immensely help verifying the emitter of such a code and take the
> a
drago01 wrote:
> The same specification can be implemented in 2 perfectly compliant
> ways, one being slow and one being fast.
> An interpreter is inherently slow ;)
Sorry, but I don't think exposing our users to remote arbitrary code
execution (!) vulnerabilities just to make web apps a bit fast
Le jeudi 19 août 2010 à 22:55 +0200, drago01 a écrit :
> This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow
> that and only display apps by default in the GUI.
This is a very naïve position. For example, even in a pure gui system,
people want to select fonts (with previews), and f
Hi,
>> Still, it's can be correctly designed to really lower the risk (or
>> even eliminate it).
>
> I don't believe the risk can be eliminated entirely. There will always be
> unacceptable risk if you execute native code generated at runtime from an
> untrusted source.
How about a very well main
Hi,
>> Well, that's not what HTML, nor the underlying HTTP, was designed for. I
>> don't see it as being an appropriate platform for software at all. (And I
>> don't see plugins such as Flash as being the solution either. I believe
>> this
>> needs a completely different protocol, e.g. NX is somet
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 22:55 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> Thanks for working on this, the concept of "packages" should be an
> implementation detail that much (desktop) users shouldn't have to care
> about.
>
> This is definitely a step in the right direction. PK should follow
> that and only display a
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 5:46 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> I mentioned this on:
> http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
>
> last night but I thought I'd bring it up here:
>
> Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it
> was hard to figu
Visible here:
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/searching-package-tags-from-the-pkgdb/
In the last round of roll outs the fedora packagedb added tags and
ratings to the site. A great bit of work by mbacovsk, maploin and toshio
made this happen. I added support for yum to use the db that t
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 13:06 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > There is a "web app store" in PackageDB, which seems to have all of this:
> > https://admin.fedoraproject.org/pkgdb/
> >
> yes, I know.
>
> And you'll notice that the pkgdb can generate a sqlite db of tags and
> ranking info that yum can u
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 11:46 -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> I mentioned this on:
> http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
Nice. This is cool. Perhaps one of the TG folks here can also whip out a
prototype web page view of apps, with a logo having a screenshot a la
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 8:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
>> That's what I meant by a (correct) specification and a compliant
>> implementation.
>
> And here too, I'm afraid you're missing the point. The same specification
> can be implemented in 2 perfectly compliant ways, one being secure and one
>
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 2:54 PM, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> Well, that's not what HTML, nor the underlying HTTP, was designed for. I
> don't see it as being an appropriate platform for software at all. (And I
Like it or not, the web browser has become a runtime environment,
capable of executing both F
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010, Roland McGrath wrote:
>> Here is what I'm doing:
>>
>> fedpkg clone kernel
>> fedpkg switch-branch f14
>> git checkout -b pnfs-all-2.6.35-2010-08-05
>
> Make that 'git checkout --track -b pnfs-blah-blah origin/f14/master'.
> Or, equivalently, after the fact, do:
> git co
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 19:47:55 +0200
Ralf Corsepius wrote:
> On 08/19/2010 06:07 PM, Paul Howarth wrote:
> > On 19/08/10 16:52, build...@fedoraproject.org wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >> perl-Config-Model has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree:
> >> On x86_64:
> >>perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 15:01 -0400, Brandon Lozza wrote:
> If we tolerate any non free software then what's the point? Why not
> just run Windows or OSX?
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>
> Well, that's not what HTML, nor the underlying HTTP, was designed for. I
> don't see it as being an appropriate platform for software at all. (And I
> don't see plugins such as Flash as being the solution either. I believe
> this
> needs a completely different protocol, e.g. NX is something g
Ilyes Gouta wrote:
> It's just that, we all being able to pull JS code in plain text from a
> given server, from any place on the world, doesn't really help classifying
> that code as a closed source.
Sorry, but you're arguing against a strawman: I didn't claim that the code
was "closed source",
Roland McGrath wrote:
>> Here is what I'm doing:
>>
>> fedpkg clone kernel
>> fedpkg switch-branch f14
>> git checkout -b pnfs-all-2.6.35-2010-08-05
>
> Make that 'git checkout --track -b pnfs-blah-blah origin/f14/master'.
> Or, equivalently, after the fact, do:
> git config branch.pnfs-blah-
On 08/19/2010 01:57 PM, Roland McGrath wrote:
>> Here is what I'm doing:
>>
>> fedpkg clone kernel
>> fedpkg switch-branch f14
>> git checkout -b pnfs-all-2.6.35-2010-08-05
>
> Make that 'git checkout --track -b pnfs-blah-blah origin/f14/master'.
> Or, equivalently, after the fact, do:
> g
On Thu, 19 Aug 2010 17:51:21 +0100, Bastien wrote:
> Heya,
>
> Trying to build an updated control-center on F13, I ended up with the
> following errors:
> DEBUG util.py:255: Error: Package: udisks-1.0.1-1.fc13.i686 (build)
> DEBUG util.py:255: Requires: liblvm2app.so.2.1
> DEBUG util
> Here is what I'm doing:
>
> fedpkg clone kernel
> fedpkg switch-branch f14
> git checkout -b pnfs-all-2.6.35-2010-08-05
Make that 'git checkout --track -b pnfs-blah-blah origin/f14/master'.
Or, equivalently, after the fact, do:
git config branch.pnfs-blah-blah.remote origin
git
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:28:23PM -0400, Chris Ball wrote:
> I think "run X as user Xorg if you're on KMS" would be a fine
> F15Feature to aim for. Ubuntu's been working on it too:
Of course, doing so just turns it from "Running code as X gives you
root" to "Running code as X gives you root th
On Fri, 1994-08-19 at 16:22 +0200, Kevin Kofler wrote:
> I want none of that useless crap, thank you very much! Applications should
> be written as applications, delivered through our package repository, in a
> compiled language. Web sites should just be web sites and have as little
> code as p
Kevin,
> Free Software is not just about availability of source code. (That's exactly
> why the term "Open Source" is misleading!) It's no use having the source
> code if you aren't allowed to legally do anything with it.
I did't claim that JS code is open source. It's just that, we all
being abl
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:59 +0200, Till Maas wrote:
> On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:42:18PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
> > > On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> > > ...
> > > > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:42:18PM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
> > On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> > ...
> > > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this is just
> > > to prove that the infrastructure has been avail
Here is what I'm doing:
fedpkg clone kernel
fedpkg switch-branch f14
git checkout -b pnfs-all-2.6.35-2010-08-05
make prep
fedpkg -v prep --arch=noarch
Creating module object from /Build/steved/fc/git/kernel
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/bin/fedpkg", line 1062, in
args.comman
Heya,
Trying to build an updated control-center on F13, I ended up with the
following errors:
DEBUG util.py:255: Error: Package: udisks-1.0.1-1.fc13.i686 (build)
DEBUG util.py:255: Requires: liblvm2app.so.2.1
DEBUG util.py:255: You could try using --skip-broken to work around the
p
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 18:30 +0200, Dennis J. wrote:
> On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote:
> ...
> > Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this is just
> > to prove that the infrastructure has been available.
>
> What's missing is the ability to rate an app and comment on
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 07:41 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:29:35PM -0700, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:43 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:02:13AM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > > > I am a libguestfs user and I'm c
On 08/19/2010 05:46 PM, seth vidal wrote:
...
> Now, the concept of an app can be refined in many ways but this is just
> to prove that the infrastructure has been available.
What's missing is the ability to rate an app and comment on it because
that's really what deals with the "there is too muc
Hi,
> Obligatory "Why does X run as root since it doesn't have to?"
> thread given the exploit re-announcement.
It does have to, unless you're on KMS. And if you're on KMS, it has
to so that you can write to logfiles, read input devices, VT switch,
and stuff like that.
I think "run X as u
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 17:18 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> Hi Matthias,
>
> On Thursday, 19 August 2010 at 16:39, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> > On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:24 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > > Dear GNOME maintainers,
> > > I would appreciate it if you ann
Obligatory "Why does X run as root since it doesn't have to?" thread given
the exploit re-announcement.
-Mike
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perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
On i386:
perl-Pugs-Compiler-Rule-0.37-4.fc13.noarch requires
perl(:MODULE_COMPAT_5.10.1)
Please resolve this as soon as po
perl-Config-Model has broken dependencies in the F-14 tree:
On x86_64:
perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch requires perl(YAML::Any) >=
0:0.303
On i386:
perl-Config-Model-1.205-2.fc14.noarch requires perl(YAML::Any) >=
0:0.303
Please resolve this as soon as possible.
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I mentioned this on:
http://skvidal.wordpress.com/2010/08/19/fedora-app-market-proof-of-concept/
last night but I thought I'd bring it up here:
Yesterday someone was talking about installing apps in fedora and how it
was hard to figure out what to install/try b/c there were too much STUFF
in fed
Hi Matthias,
On Thursday, 19 August 2010 at 16:39, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:24 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> > Dear GNOME maintainers,
> > I would appreciate it if you announced changes that cause broken
> > dependencies.
>
> Ah, so you admit to not readi
On Thu, 19.08.10 10:02, Paul W. Frields (sticks...@gmail.com) wrote:
> > > > So I got it booting after creating the default.target symlink, but the
> > > network
> > > > no longer comes up automatically (nor services dependant upon it, like
> > > sshd).
> > > > Did I miss another mail ?
> > >
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 16:24 +0200, Dominik 'Rathann' Mierzejewski wrote:
> Dear GNOME maintainers,
> I would appreciate it if you announced changes that cause broken
> dependencies.
Ah, so you admit to not reading FESCo summaries :-).
On a more serious note: I'm sorry for the inconvenience.
This
Dear GNOME maintainers,
I would appreciate it if you announced changes that cause broken
dependencies.
Last month, without any warning, I started getting nagmails about broken
dependencies in one of my packages (gnomeradio) in rawhide and F-14.
The missing dependency was
libgnome-media-profiles.s
Ilyes Gouta wrote:
> Since JavaScript has a client-side execution model and since the all
> the JS scripts are downloaded in plain text format (even if sometimes
> obfuscated) along with the html code, then can't we assume that JS
> code is available in source format and hence can't be classified a
On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 01:40:10AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> On Wed, 18.08.10 19:35, Dave Jones (da...@redhat.com) wrote:
>
> >
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:00:16PM -0400, Dave Jones wrote:
> > > On Thu, Aug 19, 2010 at 12:53:44AM +0200, Lennart Poettering wrote:
> > >
> > > > >
Hi,
Since JavaScript has a client-side execution model and since the all
the JS scripts are downloaded in plain text format (even if sometimes
obfuscated) along with the html code, then can't we assume that JS
code is available in source format and hence can't be classified as
closed source progra
On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 13:26 +0200, Ralf Corsépius wrote:
> On 08/18/2010 01:21 PM, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 01:10:29PM +0200, Adam Tkac wrote:
> >> Fedora Engineering Services
> >> (http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Fedora_Engineering_Services) received
> >> request to get
On 19/08/10 13:48, Chen Lei wrote:
> 2010/8/19 Richard W.M. Jones:
>>
>> --
>> Richard Jones, Virtualization Group, Red Hat http://people.redhat.com/~rjones
>> New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows
>> programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 70 libraries supprt'
2010/8/19 Richard W.M. Jones :
>
> --
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> New in Fedora 11: Fedora Windows cross-compiler. Compile Windows
> programs, test, and build Windows installers. Over 70 libraries supprt'd
> http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/MinGW h
On Thu, 2010-08-19 at 07:41 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 07:29:35PM -0700, Matt McCutchen wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-08-18 at 22:43 +0100, Richard W.M. Jones wrote:
> > > On Wed, Aug 18, 2010 at 08:02:13AM -0400, seth vidal wrote:
> > > > I am a libguestfs user and I'm co
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Broken deps for x86_64
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On 19/08/10 01:44, Jesse Keating wrote:
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> On 8/18/10 1:31 PM, Paul Howarth wrote:
>> On Wed, 18 Aug 2010 11:43:57 -0700
>> Jesse Keating wrote:
>>> On 8/5/10 8:02 AM, Paul Howarth wrote:
On 02/08/10 20:53, Jesse Keating wrote:
> -BEG
Hello. A ask it.
18.08.2010 09:34, Remi Collet пишет:
> Le 13/08/2010 12:31, Christof Damian a écrit :
>
>>> php-pear-Structures-DataGrid*.
>>> php-pear-Benchmark
> I will be glad to have co-maintainer on this.
> Just ask in pkgdb.
>
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