New improved usb_modeswitch coming your way !!

2010-04-20 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
Hi All, So i split up usb_modeswitch into the main package and the data part, now called usb_modeswitch and usb_modeswitch-data. The version in testing is latest upstream 1.1.2. It would be great if any one using usb_modeswitch could test this version as well and give it a karma :) https://admin.

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Slava Zanko wrote: > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? No. It's a quite silly idea. 1. Those tools have been called like that

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Thomas Janssen wrote: > Agreed. Plus a command like: filesystem.remove would confuse and scare > novices. "Ugh, that removes my filesystem" Well, if it scares them enough not to abuse rm -rf, that's a good thing. ;-) IMHO file deletions should always be performed through a graphical file manager

Re: HAL status

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Ben Boeckel wrote: > With X no longer using HAL for device configuration, what the status of > completely replacing HAL? For KDE, according to upstream, we need to wait for at least 4.5, but more likely 4.6. (Hopefully it will not end up being even longer, like for Akonadi which will only finall

Thoughts on using Lernid in Fedora meetings classroom sessions.

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
I'm assuming everyone here has heard of Lernid, the little classroom ui that Jono Bacon original put together. I got lernid trunk up and running on Fedora 13. All the prerequisites are in place. it connects to the Ubuntu events. My understanding is that lernid just needs a hardcoded url from whi

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Brian Wheeler
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 10:00 +0300, Slava Zanko wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Frank Murphy wrote: > > Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ > I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command > names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Chris Jones
>>On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 4:37 PM, Frank Murphy wrote: > On 19/04/10 23:51, Slava Zanko wrote: > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > > Hash: SHA1 > > > > Hi folk, > > > > I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... > > > > For example, all present utilites have sence jus

2010-04-13 to 2010-04-15 Graphics Test Week recap

2010-04-20 Thread Adam Williamson
The insanity that is Graphics Test Week is now over, so it's time for the recap! https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-13_Nouveau https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-14_Radeon https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Test_Day:2010-04-15_Intel We had a great turnout again; thanks to ev

Re: Reverting kaddressbook back to previous version?

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Kofler
Juha Tuomala wrote: > I recall, that the earlier version had some level of Akonadi support > as well, so in theory, would it be possible to revert the codebase > back to the one that can actually be used? And what to do with the already migrated data? And the data users added after migration? I d

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 11:40 PM, Matthias Clasen wrote: > On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 22:52 +0200, drago01 wrote: >> On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: >> > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, drago01 wrote: >> >> It is just a game ... >> > >> >> Ever tried to run compiz on software?

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 22:52 +0200, drago01 wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, drago01 wrote: > >> It is just a game ... > > > >> Ever tried to run compiz on software? (hint: desktop effects will tell > >> you to come back once you a

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:30 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, drago01 wrote: >> It is just a game ... > >> Ever tried to run compiz on software? (hint: desktop effects will tell >> you to come back once you are using a 3D driver). > > Ah...see here's the thing... this a

Minutes/Summary for todays FESCo meeting (2010-04-20)

2010-04-20 Thread Kevin Fenzi
=== #fedora-meeting: FESCO (2010-04-20) === Meeting started by nirik at 19:00:02 UTC. The full logs are available at http://meetbot.fedoraproject.org/fedora-meeting/2010-04-20/fesco.2010-04-20-19.00.log.html Meeting summary -

F-13 Branched report: 20100420 changes

2010-04-20 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Tue Apr 20 09:15:06 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- hornsey-1.5.2-0.1.fc13.i686 requires libclutter-gst-0.10.so.0 Broken deps for x86_64 -- hornsey

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Adam Williamson
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 13:18 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote: > I have been dealing with this issue in the context of Ubuntu Lucid, > however since it can be reproduced under F13 Beta I thought it would > be wise to raise it here. In some cases, gnome-games do not properly > fall back to software render

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Owen Taylor
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 13:18 -0400, Mark Bidewell wrote: > I have been dealing with this issue in the context of Ubuntu Lucid, > however since it can be reproduced under F13 Beta I thought it would > be wise to raise it here. In some cases, gnome-games do not properly > fall back to software render

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 10:02 AM, drago01 wrote: > It is just a game ... > Ever tried to run compiz on software? (hint: desktop effects will tell > you to come back once you are using a 3D driver). Ah...see here's the thing... this application doesn't actually tell you anything...its just fails

Re: gnome-icon-theme in rawhide

2010-04-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 18:00 +0100, Mat Booth wrote: > Is this what has caused this bug in the F13 Beta? > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=573809 No. A package split I have built in rawhide this morning can not break an F13 release that went to the mirrors a week ago... -- devel mai

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:00 PM, Mark Bidewell wrote: > [...] > > Quadrapassel is in gnome-games-extra.  One interesting note I will try > to get more details on.  is that some are reporting the bug when using > nouveau (which I assumed was accelerated). You need to install mesa-dri-drivers-exper

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, drago01 wrote: >> Clutter is not targeting mesa's software rastersizer ... so clutter >> upstream do not really care if it works without any hardware support >> or not. > > > Which is all fine for an optional

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Bidewell
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, drago01 wrote: >> Clutter is not targeting mesa's software rastersizer ... so clutter >> upstream do not really care if it works without any hardware support >> or not. > > > Which is all fine for an optional

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:32 AM, drago01 wrote: > Clutter is not targeting mesa's software rastersizer ... so clutter > upstream do not really care if it works without any hardware support > or not. Which is all fine for an optional component gnome-shell which explicitly states it targets hardwa

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 7:28 PM, Jeff Spaleta wrote: > On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote: >> I have been dealing with this issue in the context of Ubuntu Lucid, >> however since it can be reproduced under F13 Beta I thought it would >> be wise to raise it here.  In some cases,

Re: Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Jeff Spaleta
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 9:18 AM, Mark Bidewell wrote: > I have been dealing with this issue in the context of Ubuntu Lucid, > however since it can be reproduced under F13 Beta I thought it would > be wise to raise it here.  In some cases, gnome-games do not properly > fall back to software renderi

Gnome Games Clutter/OpenGL issues

2010-04-20 Thread Mark Bidewell
I have been dealing with this issue in the context of Ubuntu Lucid, however since it can be reproduced under F13 Beta I thought it would be wise to raise it here. In some cases, gnome-games do not properly fall back to software rendering and fail to start. This bug happens reliably with KVM and V

Upcoming Fedora 13 Tasks

2010-04-20 Thread John Poelstra
Start End Name Tue 13-Apr Tue 04-May Beta Testing Fri 23-Apr Fri 23-Apr Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #2 Wed 28-Apr Thu 29-Apr Create 'Final' Test Compose (TC) Thu 29-Apr Wed 05-May Test 'Final' Test Compose Fri 30-Apr Fri 30-Apr Final Blocker Meeting (f13blocker) #3 Tu

Re: C++ help needed

2010-04-20 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
On 04/20/2010 12:09 PM, Bernd Stramm wrote: > Can you give me a link? I'll take a look, see if there is anything I can > do. Just checkout xmms2 and esperanza from Fedora CVS, then build the packages in the devel branch. This will help if you're not familiar with Fedora CVS: https://fedoraproject

Re: gnome-icon-theme in rawhide

2010-04-20 Thread Mat Booth
On 20 April 2010 15:23, Matthias Clasen wrote: > Hey, > > I am working with the artists to clean up our gnome-icon-theme package. >  As part of that effort, I have split off a -legacy subpackage that > contains all the legacy symlinks, leaving only standard icon names and > symlinks for GTK+ stock

Re:rawhide report: 20100420 changes

2010-04-20 Thread Chen Lei
>PyQwt-5.2.0-6.fc14 >-- >* Mon Apr 19 2010 Tadej Janež - 5.2.0-6 >- rebuild (for qwt-5.2.1, f11+) I wonder why PyQwt should be rebuilt for qwt 5.2.1 ,since qwt 5.2.0 and 5.2.1 are ABI compatible as I known.-- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedorapr

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 16:56 +0200, Alexander Boström wrote: > tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: > > > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > > (shell aliasing) these and

rawhide report: 20100420 changes

2010-04-20 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Tue Apr 20 08:15:05 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- evolution-couchdb-0.3.2-2.fc13.i686 requires libcouchdb-glib-1.0.so.1 paperbox-0.4.4-2.fc12.i686 requires libtrackerclient.so.0 rubygem-right_aws-

Re: urgent testing call: F13 kernel-2.6.33.1-24.fc13

2010-04-20 Thread Richard Zidlicky
Hi, sorry for the very late test - kernel is unusable for me, appears to be the same issue as described here for F12: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=581605 It is one of the typical netbooks - did anyone recently test the Intel graphic on some of those devices? It is likely that t

Re: C++ help needed

2010-04-20 Thread Bernd Stramm
On Tue, 2010-04-20 at 09:50 -0400, Tom "spot" Callaway wrote: > Sadly, I am facing a task which exceeds my very meager C++ skills. > > I own a package called "esperanza", which is a QT4 xmms2 client written > in C++. With the latest xmms2 update (0.7DrNo, not yet built or pushed > to any branch, b

File Module-Manifest-0.07.tar.gz uploaded to lookaside cache by ppisar

2010-04-20 Thread Petr Pisar
A file has been added to the lookaside cache for perl-Module-Manifest: 84354a53992aad3d77d19ac8cf239d2e Module-Manifest-0.07.tar.gz -- Fedora Extras Perl SIG http://www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/Extras/SIGs/Perl perl-devel mailing list perl-de...@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.o

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Alexander Boström
tis 2010-04-20 klockan 01:51 +0300 skrev Slava Zanko: > For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, > fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use. Is good idea to symlink'ing > (shell aliasing) these and much more utilz to another names? The present utilities makes sense

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Muayyad AlSadi
why do I smell COBOL ? -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

gnome-icon-theme in rawhide

2010-04-20 Thread Matthias Clasen
Hey, I am working with the artists to clean up our gnome-icon-theme package. As part of that effort, I have split off a -legacy subpackage that contains all the legacy symlinks, leaving only standard icon names and symlinks for GTK+ stock icons in the main package. This is in rawhide. If you not

Re: FWD: orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow

2010-04-20 Thread Jan Klepek
> I'm forwarding this for David Anderson: > > From: David Anderson > To: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com > Subject: Orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow > Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:22:25 + > User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64; KDE/4.3.4; > x86_64; ;) > > Greetings, > > Due

C++ help needed

2010-04-20 Thread Tom "spot" Callaway
Sadly, I am facing a task which exceeds my very meager C++ skills. I own a package called "esperanza", which is a QT4 xmms2 client written in C++. With the latest xmms2 update (0.7DrNo, not yet built or pushed to any branch, but checked into rawhide CVS), the esperanza client no longer works (it b

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 drago01 wrote: >> I also against making it global by default. But this can be done >> in separate folder, not to standard /usr/bin, and then added for >> users who want it just add it into PATH. Yep, of course. This idea unobtrusive and don't hard for

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Thomas Janssen
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 1:39 AM, Athmane Madjoudj wrote: >> >> I'm against making a mess of PATH with a crapload of symlinks. >> If this were to happen, it should happen at a bashrc alias level, and even >> then I'm still against it. >> > > i agree, also the proposed commands are too long to be ty

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread drago01
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 2:55 PM, Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus) wrote: > 20.04.2010 03:29, Ryan Rix пишет: >> On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: >> >>> Hi folk, >>> >>> I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... >>> >>> For example, all present utilites

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
20.04.2010 03:29, Ryan Rix пишет: > On Mon 19 April 2010 3:51:23 pm Slava Zanko wrote: > >> Hi folk, >> >> I want to propose new idea about names of command line utilites... >> >> For example, all present utilites have sence just for guru's (ls, rm, >> fsck etc), but for novies it's hard to use

Configuration infrastructure (system configs replacement, maintainers please read)

2010-04-20 Thread Jaroslav Reznik
Hi! We've been working for some time on improving current system configuration tools (system-config-* cleanup), some of these tools are going to be removed completely as there's no need for them now (autoconfiguration, obsoleted), some are really very outdated and unmaintained for some time. And

Re: Query about usb_modeswitch and how to handle its packaging

2010-04-20 Thread Peter Robinson
On Tue, Apr 20, 2010 at 8:55 AM, Huzaifa Sidhpurwala wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi All, > I maintain usb-modeswitch in fedora. Recently upstream divided the main > tar ball into two parts, the code which builds into the usb_modeswitch > binary and the data part wh

Re: Query about usb_modeswitch and how to handle its packaging

2010-04-20 Thread Felix Kaechele
Am 20.04.2010 09:55, schrieb Huzaifa Sidhpurwala: > 2. Have two srpms one for data and one for binary, with both depending > on each other. This is the way to go. It also makes it easier for you to maintain it in the future. However, you must create a new review request for the data package the

Query about usb_modeswitch and how to handle its packaging

2010-04-20 Thread Huzaifa Sidhpurwala
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi All, I maintain usb-modeswitch in fedora. Recently upstream divided the main tar ball into two parts, the code which builds into the usb_modeswitch binary and the data part which contains the udev rules. Initially there was just one tar ball with b

Re: Shell commands like to OS/2 shell (or MS PowerShell)

2010-04-20 Thread Slava Zanko
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Frank Murphy wrote: > Bookmark this: http://ss64.com/bash/ I know about :) This idea just try for standartization of command names... I know about posix and LSB, but these standards don't make logic in the names of commands. Okay, as I see, this idea