Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello! 2010/4/10 Nicolas Mailhot : > So you are proposing a metapackage. Fedora has historically frowned at > metapackages, we prefer to create comps groups to bundle multiple > packages together. Sorry, but this looks like purely non-technical argument for me (I mean using verbs like "prefer",

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
2010/4/10 Colin Walters : >> Also I'm sure that we need to push this >> change into both F-12 > > I object to this on general principle.  Pushing sweeping changes to > infrastructure packages is not what stable updates are for. This update is fully API/ABI compatible with previous monolithic pack

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Adam Williamson
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 20:05 -0400, Matt McCutchen wrote: > How hard is it to use Bodhi properly? You have jumped from asking 'am I missing something' to lecturing other people on the 'proper' use of Bodhi in the space of three emails, despite the fact that no reply to your original mail suggested

Help needed - packaging maven plugin

2010-04-10 Thread Guido Grazioli
Hello, im trying to package a maven plugin which depends on maven-release-plugin; where has it gone? Im almost sure it was included at the time of F-7 / F-8, and also the maven sample template in the java guidelines on the wiki suggest its use. pkgdb and yum return no result searching for it. Than

orphaning a slew of packages

2010-04-10 Thread Ian Weller
I'm orphaning a bunch of packages for various reasons, listed below, so I can focus more on other areas of Fedora. Please take them up if you find them useful or wish to continue maintaining them. == Don't have time/patience to maintain == * tremulous (has some pretty challenging bugs with it) ==

F-13 Branched report: 20100410 changes

2010-04-10 Thread Branched Report
Compose started at Sat Apr 10 09:15:06 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- Miro-2.5.4-3.fc13.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.2.2 galeon-2.0.7-25.fc13.i686 requires gecko-libs = 0:1.9.2.2 gnome-python2-gtkmozembed-2.25.3-

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jeff Spaleta wrote: > What? We don't tag testing-updates with an ID. Actually we do. :-) But this is just one more reason to edit (the update keeps its ID, so we know that FEDORA-2010- is always KDE 4.4.2 for F12, with or without edits). Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list devel@l

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > This surprised me. I assumed updates were immutable and did not find > any suggestion to the contrary until today. Only stable updates are (except in special circumstances) immutable. Testing updates are testing for a reason. Kevin Kofler -- devel mailing list

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: > The top of the page now shows the newest package versions, but much of > the feedback referred to older versions, which are not listed. IMO, > this is a terribly confusing practice and Bodhi shouldn't allow it. New > packages should be submitted in a new update so that fee

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Matt McCutchen wrote: >> There are nine bugs mentioned in the update. Do you really suggest that >> the update submitter should always manually copy them from an old update >> to a new update? > > Yes. What's so hard about that? It's a single copy and paste. Its several copies and pastes: list

Re: rawhide report: 20100410 changes

2010-04-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 04:38:19PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: > 1:libguestfs-1.3.1-3.fc14.i686 requires /usr/lib/.libcrypto.so.10.hmac > 1:libguestfs-1.3.1-3.fc14.i686 requires /usr/lib/libcrypto.so.10 > 1:libguestfs-1.3.1-3.fc14.i686 requires > /usr/lib/.libcrypto.so.1.0.0.hma

rawhide report: 20100410 changes

2010-04-10 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Sat Apr 10 08:15:07 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- anaconda-14.3-1.fc14.i686 requires fcoe-utils >= 0:1.0.12-3.20100323git evolution-couchdb-0.3.2-2.fc13.i686 requires libcouchdb-glib-1.0.so.1 gnom

Re: Moving libcrypto.so.* back to /lib

2010-04-10 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Fri, Apr 09, 2010 at 10:17:25AM +0200, Tomas Mraz wrote: > So I got convinced that libcrypto.so.* should be moved back to /lib in > the https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=559953 The libssl.so.* > will stay in /usr/lib though. > > I will do that change in F14 packages. Till Maas asked m

Re: PolicyKit-authentication-agents in Fedora

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Jaroslav Reznik wrote: > We explicitly require polkit-kde from F-12 in combination with polkit-1 > (in kdebase-workspace). F-11 still require PolicyKit-authentication-agent. That would be F-13 resp. F-12. I think that for F-12, we should really do that grouped update to introduce polkit-kde and

Re: PolicyKit-authentication-agents in Fedora

2010-04-10 Thread Kevin Kofler
Christoph Wickert wrote: > Then polkit-kde would win and it has even more deps. ;) And it wouldn't even work outside of KDE as it has OnlyShowIn=KDE;. All this is why I suggested on #fedora-kde that we should ban all usage of PolicyKit-authentication-agent entirely (possibly even just remove the

Re: geos soname bump in F-12 updates

2010-04-10 Thread Seth Vidal
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010, Rahul Sundaram wrote: > On 04/10/2010 03:26 AM, Alex Lancaster wrote: >> >> Broken deps in releases is my number 1 peeve with Fedora and although >> it's been actively worked on now, it's taken a very long time to do so. >> It would be nice if Red Hat put some more engineeri

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Nicolas Mailhot
Le samedi 10 avril 2010 à 16:56 +0400, Peter Lemenkov a écrit : > I did some investigation, and find a way to completely modularize > whole Erlang package. In a few words - main package consists of purely > virtual 'erlang' package and a dozens of sub-packages (from > erlang-appmon to erlang-xmerl

Re: Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Colin Walters
On Sat, Apr 10, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Peter Lemenkov wrote: > > I did some investigation, and find a way to completely modularize > whole Erlang package. Sounds great! > Also I'm sure that we need to push this > change into both F-12 I object to this on general principle. Pushing sweeping changes t

Heads up! Erlang package becomes modularized in Fedora.

2010-04-10 Thread Peter Lemenkov
Hello All! CC to devel@lists.fedoraproject.org CC to erlang-questi...@erlang.org I would like to attract attention those erlangers, who use Fedora and especially those of them, who use Erlang from Fedora's main repository. Others are safe :) Since Erlang adoption steadily grows and more applicat

Re: Bodhi allows resubmitting an update with different packages?!

2010-04-10 Thread Michael Schwendt
On Fri, 9 Apr 2010 16:31:32 -0800, Jeff wrote: > I'll repeat. If a testing package is missing in bodhi...it means its > obsoleted by a newer one. > Bodhi has a search interface which will let you find the newer ones. > The bugzilla tickets have the reference to the newer ones. It's bad to delete