On 04/09/2010 08:58 AM, Colin Walters wrote:
> Some highlights are that we added some OS components and apps:
> + "shotwell 2582122
> + "gnome-color-manager 3079621
> + "sssd 4135276
> + "seahorse 7142974
> + "planner 6285529
>
> Removed:
>
> - "gnupg 5073185
> - "rhino 826258
> - "abiword 15361
Hi,
A quick report on the current delta between F-12 and F-13's CD
(generated by my just-committed script
http://git.fedorahosted.org/git/spin-kickstarts.git?p=spin-kickstarts.git;a=blob;f=tools/liveimage-diff;h=a7ff363222facf7b908150fb6644aa25d1a56504;hb=HEAD
)
Some highlights are that we added
On 08/04/10 05:53 PM, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Tony Nelson:
>> On 10-04-08 14:13:01, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> [snipped]
>
>>> I never said it is a useful decision rationale, it's something we
>>> cannot avoid. I agree it's not useful, but p
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 15:38 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
>
> > Just what do you want to strip out here ?
>
> Nothing; Christoph indicated his worry was not about current deps but
> future ones, and my suggestion was just that the agent
On 04/08/2010 08:56 AM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 08:27:12PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
>> On 04/07/2010 08:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
>>> Well, I would think that if you boot with the Intel adapter active, it
>>> wouldn't power up the NVIDIA one. But I'm just guessing :)
>>
Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 17:01 -0700 schrieb Jesse Keating:
> Part of the solution here is to not rely entirely on yum depsolving, and
> instead add explicitly which polkit you want in the comps group, so that
> a provider is already selected.
Yes, I already wrote that in my very first ma
On Fri, 2010-04-09 at 01:53 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Tony Nelson:
> > On 10-04-08 14:13:01, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> [snipped]
>
> > > I never said it is a useful decision rationale, it's something we
> > > cannot avoid. I agree it's
Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 19:05 -0400 schrieb Tony Nelson:
> On 10-04-08 14:13:01, Christoph Wickert wrote:
[snipped]
> > I never said it is a useful decision rationale, it's something we
> > cannot avoid. I agree it's not useful, but please address your
> > complainants to the yum develope
On 10-04-08 14:13:01, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 13:37 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham:
> > Christoph Wickert (christoph.wick...@googlemail.com) said:
...
> > > 3. lxpolkit will be pulled in anyway due to the shortest
> > > name.
> >
> > That's not a use
After maintaining the gtkmm stack for 7 years or so, as well as a number
of other packages, I am now orphaning the remaining packages that were
still under my care. I do find that contributing to Fedora is not as fun
as it once was, and as such find it more and more difficult to commit
the time
After maintaining the gtkmm stack for 7 years or so, as well as a number
of other packages, I am now orphaning the remaining packages that were
still under my care. I do find that contributing to Fedora is not as fun
as it once was, and as such find it more and more difficult to commit
the time
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:56 -0400, Matthias Clasen wrote:
> Just what do you want to strip out here ?
Nothing; Christoph indicated his worry was not about current deps but
future ones, and my suggestion was just that the agent make an explicit
commitment to restricting itself to GTK+-level, not G
Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 17:56 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> First of all, the fear of GConf has really grown to quite irrational
> levels. Just look at
> http://wiki.lxde.org/en/Google_Summer_of_Code_2010#Fork_GVFS_to_provide_a_more_lightweight.2C_stripped_down_version_without_Gnome_depe
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 14:02 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 20:13 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 13:37 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham:
> > > Christoph Wickert (christoph.wick...@googlemail.com) said:
> > > > Suggestion:
> > > > GNOME and KDE
On 04/08/2010 08:36 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 19:07 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
>> How can the simple process of pushing builds to an unrelease Fedora
>> involves dealing with rel-eng tickets ? That's just unmanageable.
>
> Because we're beyond the state of just "throw it over
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 14:35 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:30 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> >
> > > In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
> >
> > There are bugs filed for most of th
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 17:30 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
> > In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
>
> There are bugs filed for most of these. As an update, I booted rawhide
> on the system to acquire some mo
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
There are bugs filed for most of these. As an update, I booted rawhide
on the system to acquire some more data points. Things were largely the
same except suspend/resume
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:58 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:35 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>
> > > > Then alsamixer will show all of the channel options, which you should
> > > > set to 100% volume for now.
> > >
> > > alsamixer -c 0
> > > would have done the same thing.
>
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 15:27 -0500, Bruno Wolff III wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 13:03:40 -0400,
> Jon Masters wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > This may have come up already (and I don't mean upstream :) ) but am
> > interested to know what the plans are in F12 wrt. nouveau updates. Is
> > there a
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 20:13 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 13:37 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham:
> > Christoph Wickert (christoph.wick...@googlemail.com) said:
> > > Suggestion:
> > > GNOME and KDE use their agents, everything else, for example window
> > > manager
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:35 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > > Then alsamixer will show all of the channel options, which you should
> > > set to 100% volume for now.
> >
> > alsamixer -c 0
> > would have done the same thing.
>
> It would? Doesn't the ALSA plugin always end up hiding things PA does
On Tuesday 06 April 2010 04:47:22 pm Radek Vokál wrote:
> I need few suggestions about this ..
> https://blog.wireshark.org/2010/02/running-wireshark-as-you/ .. Gerald
> Combs, the upstream maintainer of wireshark, suggests to use
> capabilities instead of consolehelper+root privileges for
> dump
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 16:45 +1000, Rodd Clarkson wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:17 -0700, Adam Williamson wrote:
>
> > Thanks to everyone for their testing, it's greatly appreciated. Based on
> > the positive response here and on forums, we spun a new RC of the beta
> > with the -24 kernel incl
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 13:03:40 -0400,
Jon Masters wrote:
> Folks,
>
> This may have come up already (and I don't mean upstream :) ) but am
> interested to know what the plans are in F12 wrt. nouveau updates. Is
> there a plan to eventually rebase the kernel to 2.6.34? (and with it,
> requirin
On 8 April 2010 13:06, James Laska wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 11:30 +0100, Mat Booth wrote:
>> On 8 April 2010 01:33, James Laska wrote:
>> > Greetings,
>> >
>> > Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to
>> > review whether the Fedora 13 Beta release criteria [1]
Hello,
2010-04-08 21:06 keltezéssel, Daniel J Walsh írta:
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> On 04/08/2010 10:02 AM, Peter Czanik wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I'm helping to upgrade syslog-ng to current version in major Linux
>> distributions. I would like to ask, if you could up
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On 04/08/2010 10:02 AM, Peter Czanik wrote:
> Hello,
>
> I'm helping to upgrade syslog-ng to current version in major Linux
> distributions. I would like to ask, if you could update syslog-ng to
> version 3.1. I'm working on the openSUSE version of sy
Compose started at Thu Apr 8 09:15:03 UTC 2010
Broken deps for i386
--
edje-0.9.9.050-6.fc12.i686 requires libembryo.so.0
edje-devel-0.9.9.050-6.fc12.i686 requires embryo-devel
gnome-web-photo-0.9-4.fc13.i686 requires
Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 14:22 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 14:19 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> >
> > >>> 3. lxpolkit will be pulled in anyway due to the shortest name.
> > >>
> > >> That's not a useful decisio
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 19:07 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> How can the simple process of pushing builds to an unrelease Fedora
> involves dealing with rel-eng tickets ? That's just unmanageable.
Because we're beyond the state of just "throw it over the wall and hope
it sticks". We branched and are
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 18:47 +0100, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 01:23:31PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> That's an excellent bug report, but it should be filed at
> http://bugzilla.redhat.com rather than de...@lists.fedoraproject.org.
I've filed a bug against gconf (hoping that
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 14:19 -0400, Seth Vidal wrote:
>
> On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
> >>> 3. lxpolkit will be pulled in anyway due to the shortest name.
> >>
> >> That's not a useful decision rationale.
> >
> > I never said it is a useful decision rationale, it's somethin
Compose started at Thu Apr 8 08:15:06 UTC 2010
Broken deps for i386
--
anaconda-14.3-1.fc14.i686 requires fcoe-utils >= 0:1.0.12-3.20100323git
emotion-0.1.0.042-5.fc12.i686 requires libecore_job.so.0
emotion-0.1.0.042
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 02:10:52PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> There's a lag time between these things. Problems don't get fixed
> instantly (not a criticism) but others who want to install a given
> system will decide very quickly not to bother if Google returns no
> useful results when things do
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>>> 3. lxpolkit will be pulled in anyway due to the shortest name.
>>
>> That's not a useful decision rationale.
>
> I never said it is a useful decision rationale, it's something we cannot
> avoid. I agree it's not useful, but please address you
Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 13:37 -0400 schrieb Bill Nottingham:
> Christoph Wickert (christoph.wick...@googlemail.com) said:
> > Suggestion:
> > GNOME and KDE use their agents, everything else, for example window
> > managers like icewm or openbox, gets lxpolkit.
>
> I'd honestly prefer they
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 19:44 +0200, drago01 wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> > [...]
> > Again, this mail wasn't meant as a criticism. It was intended for Google
> > to index so that someone else who is hitting their head against a wall
> > trying to get an F12 system
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 01:23:31PM -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
(snip)
That's an excellent bug report, but it should be filed at
http://bugzilla.redhat.com rather than de...@lists.fedoraproject.org.
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On Thu, Apr 8, 2010 at 7:35 PM, Jon Masters wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:13 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
>> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
>> > Folks,
>> >
>> > In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
>>
>> > 2). The new install has no n
Christoph Wickert (christoph.wick...@googlemail.com) said:
> Suggestion:
> GNOME and KDE use their agents, everything else, for example window
> managers like icewm or openbox, gets lxpolkit.
I'd honestly prefer they use the GNOME one (maintained closer to the
source, etc.) unless there are speic
Am Donnerstag, den 08.04.2010, 12:50 -0400 schrieb Matthias Clasen:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 18:05 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
>
>
> > Does this all sound reasonable? Did I miss something?
>
> There are a few complications here: currently, both gnome-session and
> gdm explicitly require polki
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 13:13 +0100, Bastien Nocera wrote:
> On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> > Folks,
> >
> > In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
>
> > 2). The new install has no networking because the 432b reversion part is
> > unsupporte
Folks,
I created a spare encrypted LVM volume group for testing rawhide (and
one for F13 too) on my new Macbook. I cloned the existing updated F12
install and then did an upgrade to rawhide. It does boot, and it does
run X but the gnome-panel is not displayed (it is running). If I kill
it, it relo
On 04/08/2010 06:05 PM, Jesse Keating wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 07:51 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
>> Yikes, I'm pretty stumped. How can we deal with such a burdensome
>> process for something that is not even released yet ? Unfortunately I do
>> not have the spare time nor the patience to go thr
On Thu, 8 Apr 2010, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> I just imported lxpolkit into CVS, but it's not yet build because I
> don't want to break anything.
>
> We now have 3 PolicyKit-authentication-agents in Fedora:
> * polkit-gnome
> * polkit-kde
> * lxpolkit
>
> As you can see lxpolkit
Folks,
This may have come up already (and I don't mean upstream :) ) but am
interested to know what the plans are in F12 wrt. nouveau updates. Is
there a plan to eventually rebase the kernel to 2.6.34? (and with it,
requiring a non-backwards compatible update to xorg-x11-drv-nouveau?)
If there is
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On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 18:05 +0200, Christoph Wickert wrote:
> Does this all sound reasonable? Did I miss something?
There are a few complications here: currently, both gnome-session and
gdm explicitly require polkit-gnome. gdm has to require it explicitly,
since it needs to install a separate de
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 07:51:42AM +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> On 04/07/2010 09:35 AM, Michael Schwendt wrote:
> > On Wed, 07 Apr 2010 08:37:25 +0200, Denis wrote:
> >
> >> On 04/07/2010 08:30 AM, Mamoru Tasaka wrote:
> >>> Denis Leroy wrote, at 04/07/2010 03:20 PM +9:00:
> On 03/08/2010 04:37
I just imported lxpolkit into CVS, but it's not yet build because I
don't want to break anything.
We now have 3 PolicyKit-authentication-agents in Fedora:
* polkit-gnome
* polkit-kde
* lxpolkit
As you can see lxpolkit has the shortest name and will therefore be
chosen by yum if
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 07:51 +0200, Denis Leroy wrote:
> Yikes, I'm pretty stumped. How can we deal with such a burdensome
> process for something that is not even released yet ? Unfortunately I do
> not have the spare time nor the patience to go through with it, I will
> have to pass the buck on
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Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-App-Cmd/devel
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv19414/devel
Modified Files:
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Log Message:
* Thu Apr 08 2010 Iain Arnell 0.307-1
- update to latest upstream
- R/BR perl(String::RewriteP
Author: iarnell
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-App-Cmd/F-13
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv19414/F-13
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-App-Cmd.spec sources
Log Message:
* Thu Apr 08 2010 Iain Arnell 0.307-1
- update to latest upstream
- R/BR perl(String::RewritePre
Author: iarnell
Update of /cvs/pkgs/rpms/perl-App-Cmd/F-12
In directory cvs01.phx2.fedoraproject.org:/tmp/cvs-serv19414/F-12
Modified Files:
.cvsignore perl-App-Cmd.spec sources
Log Message:
* Thu Apr 08 2010 Iain Arnell 0.307-1
- update to latest upstream
- R/BR perl(String::RewritePre
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Greetings folks,
Thanks to all those who attended and contributed testing during the SSSD
by default test day. We didn't anticipate a huge number of
participants, but given the revised authconfig user-interface, and that
SSSD will be used by default, we hoped for a larger turnout. If you
weren't
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 04:02:54PM +0200, Peter Czanik wrote:
> Version 3.0 also added SSL support among many other changes, but that
> can't be enabled on openSUSE (configure arg: --disable-ssl): syslog-ng
> is in /sbin, openssl libs are in /usr/lib, linking from /usr is not
> allowed in /, and S
Hello,
I'm helping to upgrade syslog-ng to current version in major Linux
distributions. I would like to ask, if you could update syslog-ng to
version 3.1. I'm working on the openSUSE version of syslog-ng 3.1 (
http://download.opensuse.org/repositories/home:/czanik:/branches:/Base:/System/openSUSE
On Wed, Apr 07, 2010 at 08:27:12PM -0400, Mail Lists wrote:
> On 04/07/2010 08:21 PM, Adam Williamson wrote:
> > Well, I would think that if you boot with the Intel adapter active, it
> > wouldn't power up the NVIDIA one. But I'm just guessing :)
>
> I guessed the same, until google found claims
On Thu, Apr 08, 2010 at 11:30:12AM +0100, Mat Booth wrote:
> On 8 April 2010 01:33, James Laska wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to
> > review whether the Fedora 13 Beta release criteria [1] have been met.
> > The team agreed that the
On Wed, 2010-04-07 at 09:12 -0400, Jon Masters wrote:
> Folks,
>
> In case this helps anyone else setting up a Macbook Pro 13.3 model 5,5.
> 2). The new install has no networking because the 432b reversion part is
> unsupported by the b43 Open Source driver (they are working on it).
Look for the
On Thu, 2010-04-08 at 11:30 +0100, Mat Booth wrote:
> On 8 April 2010 01:33, James Laska wrote:
> > Greetings,
> >
> > Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to
> > review whether the Fedora 13 Beta release criteria [1] have been met.
> > The team agreed that the Beta c
In just over a week, on April 19, the wiki will freeze for Release Notes
for Fedora 13. If you have content you would like to see the the
Release Notes go to:
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and click on the most appropriate beat. Add your content there.
Note that the cont
On 8 April 2010 01:33, James Laska wrote:
> Greetings,
>
> Representatives from Fedora QA, Rel-Eng and Development met on IRC to
> review whether the Fedora 13 Beta release criteria [1] have been met.
> The team agreed that the Beta criteria *have* been met with
> F-13-Beta-RC5. For additional de
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