Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Toshio Kuratomi
On Tue, Jan 12, 2010 at 01:45:07AM +0100, Kevin Kofler wrote: > Charley Wang wrote: > > Please note that many of the packages may be failing because of a few > > DSO's. Further exploration is needed to evaluate this possibility so > > we can apply one patch to the source of the problem instead of d

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 12.1.2010 01:14, Kevin Kofler wrote: > semantics) hitting so many packages is a very bad idea and that it's > unrealistic to get them all fixed for F13. + 1...speaking as somebody who's fixed dozens of packages after the F11 and F12 mass rebuilds and looking at the loong list referenced a

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Tom Lane
Kevin Kofler writes: > I also think that this change will probably force us to ship .la files. The > only reason we didn't need them so far was that implicit linking feature. [ scratches head... ] How so? AFAICS the only change here is that programs now have to explicitly list all the librarie

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Charley Wang wrote: > Please note that many of the packages may be failing because of a few > DSO's. Further exploration is needed to evaluate this possibility so > we can apply one patch to the source of the problem instead of dozens of > superfluous patches. We also need (and would appreciate hel

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Kevin Kofler
Charley Wang wrote: > A rebuild was conducted, and a preliminary (unsorted) list of packages > that have implicit linkage errors can be found here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/DSOLinkBugs I still think that a backwards-incompatible change to something as central as linking semantics (the

Re: Pulseaudio update issue... [ UPDATE 2 ]

2010-01-11 Thread Wes Hardaker
> On Sat, 9 Jan 2010 15:21:15 +0100, Richard Zidlicky > said: >> > On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 11:03:00 -0700, "Nathanael D. Noblet" >> > said: >> NDN> So it seems it is related to thunderbird. I have the preference set to NDN> play a sound when new mail arrives. After it has, sounds

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Roland McGrath
> SystemTap is failing on pthread_cancel, which is odd since we have no > mention of pthread in our own sources. It seems to be pulled in by some > headers in the STL. Consider this minimal example: > > $ cat string.cxx > #include > int main() > { > return std::string("foo").length() != 3;

Re: Dead package wiki page

2010-01-11 Thread Julian Aloofi
Am Montag, den 11.01.2010, 16:16 -0700 schrieb Jerry James: > I have been following the end of life process documented here: > > https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life > > The very last step contains a link to file a ticket asking rel-eng to > block the package. Cl

Dead package wiki page

2010-01-11 Thread Jerry James
I have been following the end of life process documented here: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/How_to_remove_a_package_at_end_of_life The very last step contains a link to file a ticket asking rel-eng to block the package. Clicking on that link takes me to a page that says: Forbidden TICKET_CREA

Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-06

2010-01-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 22:43:32 + Mat Booth wrote: > This is a bit suspicious: > > 2010/1/10 Kevin Fenzi : > > > > orphan:BADURL:xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz:xqilla > > orphan:BADURL:xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz:xqilla10 > > > > Why is it necessary for xquilla to distribute the source for xerces-c?

Re: Bugzilla problem? (missing bugs on home page)

2010-01-11 Thread David Malcolm
On Mon, 2010-01-11 at 22:42 +, Tim Jackson wrote: > Today Bugzilla seems to be missing bugs from my "front page"; it shows zero > for "Open Issues: Assigned to You" and many other areas where yesterday there > were quite a few bugs (and there are definitely ones that are open and > assigned

Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-06

2010-01-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 17:29:40 -0500 Peter Jones wrote: > On 01/10/2010 02:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > pjones:BADURL:dumpet-2.0.tar.bz2:dumpet > > Should be fixed now (forgot to push the tarball to hosted) ok. > > pjones:BADURL:syslinux-3.83.tar.bz2:syslinux > > Not really seeing what's wron

Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-06

2010-01-11 Thread Mat Booth
This is a bit suspicious: 2010/1/10 Kevin Fenzi : > > orphan:BADURL:xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz:xqilla > orphan:BADURL:xerces-c-src_2_8_0.tar.gz:xqilla10 > Why is it necessary for xquilla to distribute the source for xerces-c? Why is a simple dependency on xerces-c-devel not sufficient? :-/ -- Ma

Bugzilla problem? (missing bugs on home page)

2010-01-11 Thread Tim Jackson
Today Bugzilla seems to be missing bugs from my "front page"; it shows zero for "Open Issues: Assigned to You" and many other areas where yesterday there were quite a few bugs (and there are definitely ones that are open and assigned to me). Even clicking the "show list" doesn't show any, e.g.:

Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-06

2010-01-11 Thread Peter Jones
On 01/10/2010 02:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > pjones:BADURL:dumpet-2.0.tar.bz2:dumpet Should be fixed now (forgot to push the tarball to hosted) > pjones:BADURL:syslinux-3.83.tar.bz2:syslinux Not really seeing what's wrong with this one, but I've just updated it to 3.84, so let's see if it stays

Re: rawhide report: 20100109 changes

2010-01-11 Thread Richard W.M. Jones
On Sat, Jan 09, 2010 at 01:33:22PM +, Rawhide Report wrote: > cduce-0.5.3-3.fc13.i686 requires ocaml(runtime) = 0:3.11.1 Still not much happening upstream here. > why-2.23-1.fc13.i686 requires ocaml(Types) = > 0:c36604dc5d4202662cfca61be96c3303 I rebuilt this one today -- it sho

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Josh Stone
On 01/11/2010 10:45 AM, Charley Wang wrote: > Hi Fedora Developers, > > This is a quick announcement of the proposed change to DSO linking > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking). > > The change will force explicit declaration of links rather than implicitly > detec

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Charley Wang
- "Ville Skyttä" wrote: > On Monday 11 January 2010, Charley Wang wrote: > > > We also need (and would appreciate help with) the > > linking of failed build logs to their package owners. > > If you want just an e-mail address per package, use - > ow...@fedoraproject.org. If you want more

soname changing parted heading for rawhide

2010-01-11 Thread Hans de Goede
Hi, Today I've rebased parted to parted-2.1, this means that the libparted soname has changed, and all libparted using packages need to be rebuild: [h...@localhost ~]$ sudo repoquery -q --whatrequires 'libparted-1.9.so.0()(64bit)' qtparted-0:0.4.5-22.fc12.x86_64 DeviceKit-disks-0:009-3.fc12.x86_

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Ville Skyttä
On Monday 11 January 2010, Charley Wang wrote: > We also need (and would appreciate help with) the > linking of failed build logs to their package owners. If you want just an e-mail address per package, use - ow...@fedoraproject.org. If you want more than that, see /usr/bin/fedoradev- pkgowners

Re: Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Milos Jakubicek
On 11.1.2010 19:45, Charley Wang wrote: > Hi Fedora Developers, > > This is a quick announcement of the proposed change to DSO linking > (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking). > > The change will force explicit declaration of links rather than implicitly > detecting l

Change to DSO-linking semantics of the compiler

2010-01-11 Thread Charley Wang
Hi Fedora Developers, This is a quick announcement of the proposed change to DSO linking (https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ChangeInImplicitDSOLinking). The change will force explicit declaration of links rather than implicitly detecting links. More detailed info is here: https://fedorapro

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20100108) FESCo meeting

2010-01-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
On Mon, 11 Jan 2010 12:44:46 + Adam Williamson wrote: > On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 15:53 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > > > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to > > this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, > > e-mail me directly, or bring it up

Announcing: Formal Methods SIG

2010-01-11 Thread David A. Wheeler
We have a new "Formal Methods" SIG. If you're interested, please join! "Formal methods" are techniques that use mathematics to prove that models of software, hardware, or systems will or will not have certain behavior. To be practical, they must be automated using tools. Free/Libre/Open Source

Re: FWD: orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow

2010-01-11 Thread Matthew Miller
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 09:35:23AM -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > mod_auth_shadow - Apache authentication via /etc/shadow Is there anything this can do that mod_auth_pam can't do better? -- Matthew Miller mat...@mattdm.org -- devel mailing list devel@lists.

Re: FWD: orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow

2010-01-11 Thread Pavel Alexeev (aka Pahan-Hubbitus)
11.01.2010 19:35, Kevin Fenzi ?: I'm forwarding this for David Anderson: From: David Anderson To: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com Subject: Orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:22:25 + User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64; KDE/4.3.4; x86_6

Re: Desktop caterogies

2010-01-11 Thread Rex Dieter
Alain Portal wrote: > In order to improve the desktop file of a package I maintain, I should > want to know if there is a guideline for desktop file in Fedora. > google donẗ help me. Good references include: http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging/Guidelines#Desktop_files http://standards.freedes

FWD: orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow

2010-01-11 Thread Kevin Fenzi
I'm forwarding this for David Anderson: From: David Anderson To: fedora-devel-l...@redhat.com Subject: Orphaning curlftpfs , mod_auth_shadow Date: Mon, 11 Jan 2010 11:22:25 + User-Agent: KMail/1.12.4 (Linux/2.6.31.6-166.fc12.x86_64; KDE/4.3.4; x86_64; ;) Greetings, Due to a slow African In

Re: Sources file audit - 2010-01-06

2010-01-11 Thread Cole Robinson
On 01/10/2010 02:06 AM, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > crobinso:BADSOURCE:virt-manager-0.8.2.tar.gz:virt-manager Hmm, looks like I had accidentally used a self built dist for the sources. Would have been identical to the upstream release except there was a bug which polluted the tarball with some local env

Re: Package Review Stats for last 10 days ending 10th Jan

2010-01-11 Thread Rakesh Pandit
2010/1/11 Rakesh Pandit wrote: > Top three FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package > review" components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 27th Dec were > Mamoru Tasaka, Michal Fojtik and Rakesh Pandit. > [..] Let me correct here: Top three FAS account holders who have completed

Package Review Stats for last 10 days ending 10th Jan

2010-01-11 Thread Rakesh Pandit
Top three FAS account holders who have completed reviewing "Package review" components on bugzilla for last 7 days ending 27th Dec were Mamoru Tasaka, Michal Fojtik and Rakesh Pandit. Mamoru Tasaka : 8 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=530193 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/

rawhide report: 20100111 changes

2010-01-11 Thread Rawhide Report
Compose started at Mon Jan 11 08:15:09 UTC 2010 Broken deps for i386 -- PyKDE-3.16.6-1.fc13.i686 requires sip-api(6) >= 0:6.0 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requires libevolution-mail-shared.so.0 anjal-0.1.0-1.fc13.i686 requi

Re: Plan for tomorrow's (20100108) FESCo meeting

2010-01-11 Thread Adam Williamson
On Thu, 2010-01-07 at 15:53 -0700, Kevin Fenzi wrote: > If you would like to add something to this agenda, you can reply to > this e-mail, file a new ticket at https://fedorahosted.org/fesco, > e-mail me directly, or bring it up at the end of the meeting, during > the open floor. I filed a ticket

Re: yum-presto and comps

2010-01-11 Thread Till Maas
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 05:17:20AM -0500, Jens Petersen wrote: > > I guess I would be fine with it being in @base or something. > > Just wondered does it have any implications for mock? Mock uses the buildsys-build group iirc. Regards Till pgpBpwH1XyXcy.pgp Description: PGP signature -- deve

Re: yum-presto and comps

2010-01-11 Thread Jens Petersen
> I guess I would be fine with it being in @base or something. Just wondered does it have any implications for mock? Jens -- devel mailing list devel@lists.fedoraproject.org https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/devel

Re: Common Lisp apps in Fedora

2010-01-11 Thread Alexander Kahl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/08/2010 04:32 PM, Jerry James wrote: > It sounds like we should tell the Fedora Project Board that we are > forming, and appoint someone to send them regular status reports. We > should also tell the Packaging Committee that we have identified s

Re: Common Lisp apps in Fedora

2010-01-11 Thread Alexander Kahl
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 01/09/2010 06:15 AM, David A. Wheeler wrote: > No escape clause needed for applications. > The 2nd sentence of: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Packaging:Lisp > "This document does not describe conventions and customs for application > programs that

Re: Desktop caterogies

2010-01-11 Thread Andrea Musuruane
On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:01 AM, Alain Portal wrote: > Hi, > > In order to improve the desktop file of a package I maintain, I should want to > know if there is a guideline for desktop file in Fedora. > google donẗ help me. > And Fedora 6 (KDE related) provided more sub-menu items than F-12... Th