Changes to third-party access for Mozilla organizations on GitHub

2015-10-16 Thread Doug Turner
For security reasons, we will be making changes to third-party application access for Mozilla organizations on GitHub. This means that GitHub applications not run by Mozilla will have to go through a more formal approval process by Mozilla GitHub organization owners before they are added (not ju

Re: Merging comm-central into mozilla-central

2015-10-23 Thread Doug Turner
Thunderbird is under supported and potentially harmful (as Brian Smith pointed out on the mozilla-dev-security-policy back in Sept). Before merging c-c into m-c, I think we should have agreement on what kind of support the mozilla project and foundation is going to give to Thunderbird. I think

Re: Merging comm-central into mozilla-central

2015-11-06 Thread Doug Turner
It’s not a simple thing to just merge the code bases. It’s going to cause a bunch of work in Release which we’re just not signed up for. In our planning for 2016, I will add this to what we’d like to do — but no promises as there are lots of high priority things we need to get done. Doug >

Re: Merging comm-central into mozilla-central

2015-11-06 Thread Doug Turner
ing to futz with it. Doug > On Nov 6, 2015, at 9:20 AM, Doug Turner wrote: > > It’s not a simple thing to just merge the code bases. It’s going to cause a > bunch of work in Release which we’re just not signed up for. In our planning > for 2016, I will add this to what we’

Re: Moving FirefoxOS into Tier 3 support

2016-01-25 Thread doug . turner
On Monday, January 25, 2016 at 8:38:08 AM UTC-8, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > Hi Fabrice, > > On 2016-01-25 11:00 AM, Fabrice Desré wrote: > > Hi all, > > > >With the smartphone activity shifting to a more exploratory status, we > > have been discussing with the platform & releng people which setup

Re: Increasing the platform meeting's relevance for engineers

2013-04-24 Thread Doug Turner
I think if we need to find reasons to keep a meeting relevant, we need to kill the meeting. Lawrence, you should just discontinue the meeting for a few weeks and see if we really need it. I bet we wont. I would much rather see us spend the time to curate what's important -- what platform peo

Re: Increasing the platform meeting's relevance for engineers

2013-04-25 Thread Doug Turner
Lawrence Mandel wrote: However, I have had people tell me that they do get some value from this meeting. What value did they get and what role did they have at mozilla? I am wondering if the audience for this meeting is no longer mozilla platform engineers. __

Re: Geolocation and the Mac

2013-05-22 Thread Doug Turner
Asking the other way around, why are we doing this? Ad hoc it just looks like more code to maintain. We have been moving to system services where possible. We already did this on the Android. System service have a much better opportunity to already have location data allowing us to avoid

Re: Geolocation and the Mac

2013-05-22 Thread Doug Turner
Justin Dolske wrote: Yikes, this is crappy. The OS only asks once, and then your choice is (permanently?) stored in Preferences --> Security & Privacy --> Location Services. I had to google to find this, as Safari just silently passes on a failure to the site. I seriously wonder if we should h

Geolocation and the Mac

2013-05-22 Thread Doug Turner
In Bug 874587, we are considering using Core Location as the default geolocation provider on the Mac. This would replace the use of the NetworkGeolocationProvider (that currently points to GLS). After code reviews, we plan to enable this on Nightly and see how it goes. On Android, we already

Re: Sandboxed, off-screen pages for thumbnail capture

2013-06-19 Thread Doug Turner
Gavin Sharp wrote: On Tue, Jun 18, 2013 at 3:29 PM, David Rajchenbach-Teller wrote: I don't understand when we wouldn't use this service. At the moment, we capture thumbnails for all pages, so if we do not change that strategy, the sandbox would effectively double at least all non-ajax netwo

Re: Shutting off leak tests?

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Turner
Has a developer investigated? Steven, do you know anything about this? doug Chris AtLee wrote: Hi! Leak tests on OSX have been failing intermittently for nearly a year now[1]. As yet, we don't have any ideas why they're failing, and nobody is working on fixing them. Would anybody be very sad

Re: Shutting off leak tests?

2013-07-15 Thread Doug Turner
7;m not going to have time to investigate this for the foreseeable future. I'm already dealing with one very difficult (and possibly intractable) tests bug (https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=884471), and that's more than enough at one time :-( Doug Turner <mailto:doug.tur...@gma

Re: Proposal: requiring build peer review for Makefile.in changes

2013-07-17 Thread Doug Turner
I'm probably responsible for those Fennec build files (if they were correct, it would have been blassey). In any case, we probably did 'sneak' things past build peers. Not intentionally, of course. We were more worried about getting a product into the marketplace that didn't suck than the c

Re: Intent to implement: NavigationController

2013-07-29 Thread Doug Turner
Intent to implement seems premature. Why wouldn't we wait to see how this goes and let Google do that. I really dislike the idea of rushing into this API. A programatic API that does something like AppCache is a good idea -- only in that it is better than the declarative shit AppCache is. W

Re: Intent to implement: NavigationController

2013-07-29 Thread Doug Turner
Do you think that NC is the right soluction here? Anne van Kesteren wrote: Offline not working seems like the #1 problem of the web platform, There are lots of problems with the web platform. Offline support is one of them, yes. :) so working on this API does not really feel premature t

Re: Intent to implement: NavigationController

2013-07-29 Thread Doug Turner
Implementation detail, but I presume that you will also replace the existing appcache impl with NC, right? Ehsan Akhgari wrote: Offline not working seems like the #1 problem of the web platform, so working on this API does not really feel premature to me. __

Re: Updates to bzexport & qimportbz

2013-08-27 Thread Doug Turner
When will you implement `mach fix-my-assigned-bugs`? Gregory Szorc wrote: $ mach mercurial-setup ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Updates to bzexport & qimportbz

2013-08-27 Thread Doug Turner
e build system. Keep it up! Doug Turner wrote: When will you implement `mach fix-my-assigned-bugs`? Gregory Szorc wrote: $ mach mercurial-setup ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Removal of native notification systems on desktop platforms

2013-10-29 Thread Doug Turner
Nothing. Just time. Patches accepted. On Oct 29, 2013, at 6:26 AM, Henri Sivonen wrote: > Not mapping Web Notifications to native notifications seems very > unfortunate, since it means Web apps can't use Web Notifications to > get a native experience. > > Is there a summary of what exactly pr

Re: Manually or Programmatically set geo.wifi.uri for testing purposes

2013-11-17 Thread Doug Turner
I think we fixed this with: http://hg.mozilla.org/mozilla-central/rev/49e797ce0f22 On Nov 14, 2013, at 9:34 AM, John Cook wrote: > I'm trying to manually or programmatically set the geo.wifi.uri for > testing purposes. I've tried to do this several different ways to no > avail.I ma

Mozilla Location Services - Heads up

2014-02-02 Thread Doug Turner
As you may know, some of us have been experimenting with a location service for mozilla. We've blogged about it in the past and you can find more information here: https://location.services.mozilla.com/ One of the interesting things is that we can use this data to provide location based servi

Re: Proposed W3C Charter: Geolocation Working Group

2014-03-17 Thread Doug Turner
I am. (or someone on my team will) ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/dev-platform

Re: Spring cleaning: Reducing Number & Footprint of HG Repos

2014-03-26 Thread Doug Turner
Want to move to github? (0) sudo apt-get install python-setuptools (1) sudo easy_install hg-git (2) add |hggit =| under [extensions] in your .hgrc file (3) Go to GitHub.com and create your new repo. (4) cd (5) hg bookmark -r default master (6) hg push git+ssh://g...@github.com// On Wednesday, M

Re: Spring cleaning: Reducing Number & Footprint of HG Repos

2014-03-27 Thread Doug Turner
Most of mine were patch queues. Your results may vary. On Thursday, March 27, 2014, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Wed, Mar 26, 2014 at 11:58:48PM -0700, Doug Turner wrote: > > Want to move to github? > > > > (0) sudo apt-get install python-setuptools > > (1) sudo easy

Re: Oculus VR support & somehwat-non-free code in the tree

2014-04-14 Thread Doug Turner
+1 to breaking licensing dogma in favor of innovation + moving faster. On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:55 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: > On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 9:47 PM, Andreas Gal wrote: > >> Vlad asked a specific question in the first email. Are we comfortable >> using another open (albeit not open enou

Re: [b2g] Relevance of Super-Review (Was: Hardening the review requirements for changing .webidl files)

2014-04-25 Thread Doug Turner
dumb idea. I don’t think we need any new module level system for dealing with .webidl changes. A DOM peer is required. This group can impose whatever they need to keep code quality and API consistent high. -- Doug Turner On Thursday, April 24, 2014 at 4:31 PM, Bobby Holley wrote: >

Re: Standardizing request contexts

2014-07-01 Thread Doug Turner
adding tanvi. On Jul 1, 2014, at 7:20, Boris Zbarsky wrote: > On 7/1/14, 6:06 AM, Anne van Kesteren wrote: >> Hi Doug, Patrick, Boris, > > ccing Jonas, since he's been thinking about this a lot recently. > >> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Tech/XPCOM/Reference/Interface/nsICo

Re: External dependent tests in gecko and gaia

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Turner
Did we ever reach agreement about moving gaia into m-c? It would make this type of problem go away, and make regression range hunting much easier. On Aug 13, 2014, at 9:21 AM, Edwin Wong wrote: > Hi dev-platform, > > TL;DR - Cloud Services and Quality Engineering would like to propose the

Re: External dependent tests in gecko and gaia

2014-08-13 Thread Doug Turner
> Anyways, now that gaia revisions are tied to m-c revisions with > b2g/config/gaia.json, regression range hunting should be a matter of > tooling around that, now. > That is excellent news. ___ dev-platform mailing list dev-platform@lists.mozilla.or

Re: Handing over XPCOM module ownership to Nathan Froyd

2014-08-26 Thread Doug Turner
Congrats Benjamin. Good luck Nathan! On Aug 26, 2014, at 10:20 AM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: > Over the past year, Nathan Froyd has been an excellent peer for the XPCOM > code module, providing thoughtful and fast reviews and guidance. I'm happy > and excited to hand over ownership responsibi

Re: USB security keys

2014-10-21 Thread Doug Turner
> > I doubt that's what roc was suggesting. But it's hard to say more without > more details on the said overall strategy. > I think this is an interesting idea and we should look into how much effort it is to add support for this usb security key. And, I think we can go a long way in fixing

Re: Using rust in Gecko. rust-url compatibility

2015-05-05 Thread Doug Turner
> On May 5, 2015, at 12:55 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote: > > On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Valentin Gosu > wrote: >> As some of you may know, Rust is approaching its 1.0 release in a couple of >> weeks. One of the major goals for Rust is using a rust library in Gecko. >> The specific one I'm wor

Re: Intent to implement and ship: document.execCommand("cut"/"copy")

2015-05-06 Thread Doug Turner
> On May 6, 2015, at 7:30 AM, Tantek Çelik wrote: > > > Not pure vandalism. The user data loss is a side-effect of other incentives. > > E.g. trivial "attacker" incentive: all those share-button-happy > news/media sites are likely to auto-copy URL + title of an article > you're reading when yo

Re: No more binary components in extensions

2015-05-06 Thread Doug Turner
One thing I should point out is that binary components in B2G are NOT user installable. Instead, binaries components are used by companies building FirefoxOS devices. For example, Qualcomm has some special implementation for Geolocation and the radio interface layer (RIL). When a company wants