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Re: Using C++0x auto

2013-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 04:17:50PM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 01:15:31PM -0700, Kyle Huey wrote: > > We've dropped support for versions of MSVC prior to 2010, and we're > > requiring at least GCC 4.4. According to [0] that means we should > > be able to use *auto*. Anybod

Re: Shutting off leak tests?

2013-07-17 Thread Ted Mielczarek
On 7/17/2013 2:05 AM, Jesse Ruderman wrote: > > AWSY is not a replacement for shutdown-leak testing. It's limited to code > exercised by TP5. Small leaks are masked by normal variation in memory use. > > Note, though, that we still run almost all of our test suites on debug builds with leak chec

Re: Three RDFa-related W3C Proposed (Edited) Recommendations

2013-07-17 Thread Axel Hecht
I've only quickly glanced at those, and I haven't followed those discussions at all, I have to admit. Are there any practical consequences for gecko/firefox? It doesn't look like it would, in particular when looking at the reference implementations being all on top of html platforms. Axel O

Re: Three RDFa-related W3C Proposed (Edited) Recommendations

2013-07-17 Thread Benjamin Smedberg
On 7/16/2013 7:12 PM, L. David Baron wrote: The W3C has released three RDFA-related documents, one proposed recommendation: HTML+RDFa 1.1: http://www.w3.org/TR/2013/PR-html-rdfa-20130625/ If there are comments you think Mozilla should send as part of the review, or if you think Mozilla

Update: Engineering meeting locations

2013-07-17 Thread Lawrence Mandel
I'll keep this short. There are changes to the meeting locations for the Engineering/Platform (Tue, 11am PT) meeting. SFO: Warfield (change to provide more space) TOR: Finch (change to avoid conflict with TOR Commons) MTV: Warp Core (no change) Remote: Engineering Vidyo room (no change) Lawrence

Re: Shutting off leak tests?

2013-07-17 Thread Matt Brubeck
On 7/17/2013 4:26 AM, Ted Mielczarek wrote: The only valuable thing we're losing from shutting this off is tracemalloc coverage, which we don't have elsewhere. I don't have any evidence to show that anyone has actually looked at the tracemalloc data or done anything useful with it in recent histo

Re: Shutting off leak tests?

2013-07-17 Thread Alex Keybl
> So the main thing we'd lose is graph server monitoring of Trace Malloc Leaks. > This is occasionally useful, but in a limited way because the monitoring > process is unowned, and because the current value of the benchmark is high > enough that small changes are ignored by the monitoring syste

Proposal: requiring build peer review for Makefile.in changes

2013-07-17 Thread Gregory Szorc
Traditionally, it's been very difficult for the build peers to keep on top of changes in the build config because changes are occurring on bug components we don't follow, are touching files all over the tree, and because build peers aren't always asked for review. The potential for "sneaking" thin

Re: Proposal: requiring build peer review for Makefile.in changes

2013-07-17 Thread Justin Lebar
The flip side of this, of course, is that build peers need to ensure that they are not the long pole in reviews. But I presume you guys are prepared to turn around these additional reviews quickly, otherwise you wouldn't have asked for the extra load. On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 5:00 PM, Gregory Szor

Re: Proposal: requiring build peer review for Makefile.in changes

2013-07-17 Thread Gregory Szorc
On 7/17/2013 5:24 PM, Justin Lebar wrote: > The flip side of this, of course, is that build peers need to ensure > that they are not the long pole in reviews. But I presume you guys > are prepared to turn around these additional reviews quickly, > otherwise you wouldn't have asked for the extra lo

Reminder: in-tree mozconfigs are not for developers

2013-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
Hi, As it seems there is a trend towards using in-tree mozconfigs for local developer builds, I think a reminder is in order: In-tree mozconfigs are for buildbot consumption. For Firefox desktop builds, a mozconfig should be unnecessary for most people, except if their compiler is not at

Re: Reminder: in-tree mozconfigs are not for developers

2013-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Thu, Jul 18, 2013 at 10:51:10AM +0900, Mike Hommey wrote: > Hi, > > As it seems there is a trend towards using in-tree mozconfigs for > local developer builds, I think a reminder is in order: > > In-tree mozconfigs are for buildbot consumption. > > For Firefox desktop builds, a mozcon

Re: Proposal: requiring build peer review for Makefile.in changes

2013-07-17 Thread Doug Turner
I'm probably responsible for those Fennec build files (if they were correct, it would have been blassey). In any case, we probably did 'sneak' things past build peers. Not intentionally, of course. We were more worried about getting a product into the marketplace that didn't suck than the c

Re: Reminder: in-tree mozconfigs are not for developers

2013-07-17 Thread Dave Townsend
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > Hi, > > As it seems there is a trend towards using in-tree mozconfigs for local > developer builds, I think a reminder is in order: > > In-tree mozconfigs are for buildbot consumption. > > For Firefox desktop builds, a mozconfig should

Re: Reminder: in-tree mozconfigs are not for developers

2013-07-17 Thread Mike Hommey
On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 10:29:01PM -0700, Dave Townsend wrote: > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 6:51 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: > > > Hi, > > > > As it seems there is a trend towards using in-tree mozconfigs for > > local developer builds, I think a reminder is in order: > > > > In-tree mozconfigs a

Re: Proposal: requiring build peer review for Makefile.in changes

2013-07-17 Thread Tim Taubert
The proposal sounds good to me but I guess you wouldn't want to be notified of every small addition/change to Makefiles in test directories? I suppose you're targeting actual changes to dependencies etc, but where do we draw the line? Can we maybe add a push hook intelligent enough to separate act