Re: Pushes to Backouts on Mozilla Inbound

2013-11-06 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 11/05/2013 07:35 AM, James Graham wrote: On 05/11/13 15:20, Till Schneidereit wrote: Do we have any way to identify tests that break particularly often for specific areas? If so, we could create a mach command that runs just these tests and finishes quickly. Something like `mach canary-tes

Re: TB Tryserver WIN32 Build question: merge failure of the change to M-C portion of the source.

2013-04-12 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 04/11/2013 11:40 AM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: On 4/11/2013 1:33 PM, ISHIKAWA,chiaki wrote: (2013/04/11 23:43), Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: On 4/11/2013 2:43 AM, ishikawa wrote: Has anyone seen the problem of the patches to M-C portion of the COMM-CENTRAL not accepted by Thunderbird TryServer bec

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-03 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 04/03/2013 06:33 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2013-04-03 9:10 PM, Clint Talbert wrote: On 4/3/2013 4:28 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: On 4/3/2013 4:31 PM, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: For what it's worth, I do recall there being release engineering talk about some sort of "autoland" feature (which

Re: Proposal for using a multi-headed tree instead of inbound

2013-04-03 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 04/03/2013 04:44 PM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: On 4/3/2013 5:36 PM, L. David Baron wrote: On Wednesday 2013-04-03 17:31 -0400, Kartikaya Gupta wrote: 1. Take the latest green m-c change, commit your patch(es) on top of it, and push it to try. 2. If your try push is green, flag it for eventual

Re: Automatic tree clobbering is coming

2013-04-01 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 03/29/2013 06:01 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: I highly recommend against defining MOZ_OBJDIR in terms of relative paths. You're implicitly creating a dependency on cwd. This is handy in a few use cases but it's a giant foot gun. Instead, do something like |mk_add_options MOZ_OBJDIR=@TOPSRCDIR@/

Re: Decoupling the build config via moz.build files (nuking all.js)

2013-03-19 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 03/18/2013 09:45 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On 3/18/2013 9:27 PM, Jeff Hammel wrote: On 03/15/2013 11:33 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: Our build config has a number of areas where metadata is centrally defined and a module or component's "configuration" is fragmented in the source

Re: Decoupling the build config via moz.build files (nuking all.js)

2013-03-19 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 03/19/2013 07:33 AM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: On 3/18/2013 11:27 PM, Jeff Hammel wrote: On 03/15/2013 11:33 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: Our build config has a number of areas where metadata is centrally defined and a module or component's "configuration" is fragmented in the so

Re: Decoupling the build config via moz.build files (nuking all.js)

2013-03-18 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 03/15/2013 11:33 AM, Gregory Szorc wrote: Our build config has a number of areas where metadata is centrally defined and a module or component's "configuration" is fragmented in the source tree. Here are some examples: 3) xpcshell.ini master manifest. /testing/xpcshell/xpcshell.ini defin

Re: proposal: replace talos with inline tests

2013-03-04 Thread Jeff Hammel
I'll point out and really this is about all I have to say on this thread that while perf testing (that is, recording results) may bewell, not easy, but not too awful that rigorous analysis of what the data means and if there is a regression is often hard since it is often the case, as evide

Re: Please upgrade to at least Mercurial 2.5.1

2013-02-25 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 02/21/2013 05:41 AM, Justin Lebar wrote: Can guidance be provided as to where to get such things for commonly-run versions of Linux? It's also easy to install hg using pip or easy_install. You can get either of these tools using your distro's package manager. (easy_install is usually called

Re: obsoleting automation.py in the near future

2013-02-20 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 02/20/2013 01:42 PM, L. David Baron wrote: My main question is: what will continue to work and what will stop working? For example, which of these ways of running mochitests will still work and which won't: TEST_PATH=layout/style/test make mochitest-plain _tests/testing/mochitest/runte

Signal from Noise report: 2012

2013-01-08 Thread Jeff Hammel
Hi, As you may or may not know, the A*Team undertook a major effort to improve the fidelity of Talos measurements last year, code named Signal from Noise: https://wiki.mozilla.org/Auto-tools/Projects/Signal_From_Noise . The effort proved to be much more substantive than any of us guessed goin

Re: Emacs and vim modelines

2013-01-04 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 01/04/2013 01:01 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: On Sat, Jan 05, 2013 at 07:49:22AM +1100, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: On Fri, Jan 4, 2013 at 12:23 PM, Nicholas Nethercote wrote: But putting sts in would be reasonable for those that don't have |smarttab| set. So it sounds like the recommended mode l

Re: Xulrunner 16 to 17? (Erro compiling)

2012-11-29 Thread Jeff Hammel
Wild guess in the dark here, and assuming `py` == "the python executable", it looks like you're using python 3.x (again wild guess) whereas in python 2.x "print getBuiltinOrNativeTypeName(self.params[0].realtype)" is valid syntax. Again, its hard to guess from the limited information here. Je

Re: Proposal to remove support for the -t all trychooser syntax

2012-10-01 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 10/01/2012 04:32 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: Over in bug 796087, I'm proposing for us to remove the -t all try server flag. The rationale is that the set of Talos tests vary greatly and most of the people who test performance are only interested in a subset of Talos tests. So I'm suggesting tha

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-10-01 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 09/28/2012 09:58 PM, Kannan Vijayan wrote: On 12-09-28 10:03 PM, Seth Fowler wrote: On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: The point is that the patches that _do_ need to land urgently are blocked on lack of resources because people are wasting too many cycles with unnecesary t

Re: try: -p all considered harmful?

2012-09-30 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 09/28/2012 10:12 PM, Chris Pearce wrote: On 29/09/12 14:32, L. David Baron wrote: On Friday 2012-09-28 22:16 -0400, Boris Zbarsky wrote: On 9/28/12 10:03 PM, Seth Fowler wrote: On Sep 28, 2012, at 6:28 PM, Boris Zbarsky wrote: The point is that the patches that _do_ need to land urgently

Re: Changing reftest required resolution

2012-08-28 Thread Jeff Hammel
If the exact width/height could be found for each test then these could be marked in a manifest (theoretically, not speaking to the existing reftest manifest format per se). Then reftest could be modified to take a (e.g.) --resoltuion 400x400 argument and the test runner passing over any test

Re: Moving Away from Makefile's

2012-08-22 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 08/22/2012 11:19 PM, Mike Hommey wrote: On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 01:38:22PM -0700, Gregory Szorc wrote: On 8/22/12 1:00 PM, Ben Hearsum wrote: On 08/22/12 12:43 PM, Jeff Hammel wrote: If we do go with python, it would be nice to keep the configuration files as much configuration as possible

Re: Moving Away from Makefile's

2012-08-22 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 08/22/2012 12:29 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: Switching to something else also has another advantage: the opportunity for a clean slate. I'm hoping we'll use the opportunity to scrape away 10+ years of cruft. I support the sentiment, though this reasoning always makes me cautious, as it oft

Re: Moving Away from Makefile's

2012-08-22 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 08/22/2012 06:50 AM, Benjamin Smedberg wrote: On 8/21/2012 7:36 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On the other end of the spectrum, we could have the build manifest files be Python "scripts." This solves a lot of problems around needing functionality in the manifest files. But, it would be a pot

Re: MDN Kuma wiki launch Friday at 10 AM PDT

2012-08-03 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 08/03/2012 11:38 AM, Benoit Jacob wrote: 2012/8/3 Jeff Hammel mailto:jham...@mozilla.com>> I would argue HTML is a good, or even great, backing format. It's what mozilla does. It is a real standard. There are a plethora of tools to deal with HTML documents.

Re: MDN Kuma wiki launch Friday at 10 AM PDT

2012-08-03 Thread Jeff Hammel
Replies inline. On 08/03/2012 07:59 AM, Justin Lebar wrote: While I personally don't understand some people's fascination with MediaWiki syntax (I can't stand it, myself), I know this is a Big Deal to some people. Let me try to help you understand. It's not an issue of being "fascinated" with

Re: MDN Kuma wiki launch Friday at 10 AM PDT

2012-08-03 Thread Jeff Hammel
On 08/03/2012 07:46 AM, Benoit Jacob wrote: 2012/8/3 Sheppy On Friday, August 3, 2012 12:02:10 AM UTC-4, Benoit Jacob wrote: The #1 problem for many people with the current MDN wiki was that it didn't offer mediawiki-compatible markup editing. It would be great to be able to use right a