Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 2015-03-11 8:19 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: On 3/11/2015 1:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: So I guess we trend towards supporting 2 build modes: Mozilla's official build environment via containers/chroots (preferred) or "host native" (for

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 2015-03-11 8:36 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Ehsan Akhgari mailto:ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 2015-03-11 2:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Ehsan Akhgari mailto:ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 2015-03-11 6:05 PM, Chris Peterson wrote: On 3/11/15 2:56 PM, Juan Gómez wrote: AFAIK, in B2G we are tied to the same host compiler version that our Android base platform needs. This is gcc-4.6 for ICS and JB devices (not really sure if KK/LL works with newer ones, but I'll bet they do). Of c

Project Silk on Desktop

Hi all, Project Silk (http://www.masonchang.com/blog/2015/1/22/project-silk), which aligns rendering to vsync, will be landing over the next couple of weeks (bug 1071275). You should expect smoother animations and scrolling while browsing the web. It'll land in 4 parts, with the vsync composito

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > On 2015-03-11 2:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > >> On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Ehsan Akhgari > > wrote: >> >> On 2015-03-11 7:35 AM, Brian Smith wrote: >> >> Mike Hommey mailto:m...@glandium.or

Re: UI Workers

I've posted a followup of sorts to public-houdini: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-houdini/2015Mar/0020.html There have been no replies, so I suspect I've said something terribly incomprehensible and/or wrong :-). Rob -- oIo otoeololo oyooouo otohoaoto oaonoyooonoeo owohooo oioso oaon

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 12:57 PM, Nicolas B. Pierron < nicolas.b.pier...@mozilla.com> wrote: > On 03/11/2015 07:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > >> This build environment would be defined inside >> mozilla-central in such a way that it is reproducible over time. e.g. >> update your source repo to a c

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Joshua Cranmer 🐧 wrote: > On 3/11/2015 1:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: > >> So I guess we trend towards supporting 2 build modes: Mozilla's official >> build environment via containers/chroots (preferred) or "host native" (for >> the people who insist on using it).

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 3/11/15 2:56 PM, Juan Gómez wrote: AFAIK, in B2G we are tied to the same host compiler version that our Android base platform needs. This is gcc-4.6 for ICS and JB devices (not really sure if KK/LL works with newer ones, but I'll bet they do). Of course, we could fix any incompatibilty and c

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 9:10:43 PM UTC+1, bobow...@gmail.com wrote: > On Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:54:59 UTC, bo...@mozilla.com wrote: > > On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 5:06:31 PM UTC, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > > > > >> Here's a push in case the bugs don't exist in certain builds: > > >

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 2015-03-11 2:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Ehsan Akhgari mailto:ehsan.akhg...@gmail.com>> wrote: On 2015-03-11 7:35 AM, Brian Smith wrote: Mike Hommey mailto:m...@glandium.org>> wrote: Brian Smith wrote: It is very inc

Re: Mozillabuild 2.0 ready for testing

On 09.03.2015 02:44, Ryan VanderMeulen wrote: For the past many months, I have been working on some major updates to the Mozillabuild package in order to make it more developer-friendly and easily-maintainable in the future. I am proud to say that at this time, it is ready for more widespread tes

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wednesday, 11 March 2015 10:54:59 UTC, bo...@mozilla.com wrote: > On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 5:06:31 PM UTC, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > > > >> Here's a push in case the bugs don't exist in certain builds: > > >> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=044e896fc6fa > > > > > > I

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 03/11/2015 07:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: This build environment would be defined inside mozilla-central in such a way that it is reproducible over time. e.g. update your source repo to a commit from March 2015 and you automatically get the build environment that was used in March 2015. Anoth

Re: Mozillabuild 2.0 ready for testing

Ah yes, I installed it to a patch with a space in it. Thanks! cpearce. On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Ryan VanderMeulen < rvandermeu...@mozilla.com> wrote: > More context would be helpful. I personally run it out of > c:\mozilla-build-test without issues. Are you using spaces in the path by >

Re: Mozillabuild 2.0 ready for testing

More context would be helpful. I personally run it out of c:\mozilla-build-test without issues. Are you using spaces in the path by chance? On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 3:21 PM, Chris Pearce wrote: > If I install this into a directory other than c:\mozilla-build I get an > error dialog popup saying c

Re: Mozillabuild 2.0 ready for testing

If I install this into a directory other than c:\mozilla-build I get an error dialog popup saying can't find c:\mozilla-build or somesuch. Maybe there's a path hardcoded somewhere? It's a bit of a footgun since the installer defaults to a non c:\mozilla-build install dir. Thanks very much for

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 3/11/2015 1:13 PM, Gregory Szorc wrote: So I guess we trend towards supporting 2 build modes: Mozilla's official build environment via containers/chroots (preferred) or "host native" (for the people who insist on using it). Only "host native" exists today and it is a PITA. Using docker conta

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 10:21 AM, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: On 2015-03-11 7:35 AM, Brian Smith wrote: > >> Mike Hommey wrote: >> >>> Brian Smith wrote: >>> It is very inconvenient to have a minimum supported compiler version that we cannot even do test builds with using tryserver. >>>

Re: Off-main-thread compositing on Linux

Windows get priority, but if all works out, tiling+apz is aimed at 42. — - Milan On Mar 11, 2015, at 12:37 , Nicolas Silva wrote: > Tiling is in a usable state (modulo some reftest failures), but I > haven't tried to run talos with tiling enabled yet. We'll probably see > the benefit of tiling

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 5:14:39 PM UTC, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > On 2015-03-11 8:34 AM, bo...@mozilla.com wrote: > > Given that we (and probably Chromium) would be unlikely to drop MSVC 2013 > > before our next ESR anyway > > That is not true. The compiler that we use to build ESR has noth

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On 2015-03-11 7:35 AM, Brian Smith wrote: Mike Hommey wrote: Brian Smith wrote: It is very inconvenient to have a minimum supported compiler version that we cannot even do test builds with using tryserver. Why this sudden requirement when our *current* minimum "supported" version is 4.6 and

Re: Intent to deprecate: persistent permissions over HTTP

I have a slight twist in thinking to offer on the topic of persistent permissions.. part of this falls to the level of spitballing so forgive the imprecision: Restricting persistent permissions is essentially about cache poisoning attacks. The assumptions seem to be that a] https is not vulnerable

Re: Off-main-thread compositing on Linux

Nice! This is big news. WIth Linux getting OMTC, we can also enable off-main-thread animations (OMTA) on all our supported platforms. Is tiling + OMTC on Linux in a testable state? How do we score on the scrolling performance test in Talos? --Jet On Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 6:30 AM, Nicolas Silva w

Off-main-thread compositing on Linux

Hi all, I am giving the heads up that Off-main-thread compositing (OMTC) will soon be enabled on Linux and that there are some expected talos regressions. In particular, a fairly big one in tp5o_scroll (see the compare-talos link below). http://perf.snarkfest.net/compare-talos/?oldRevs=56492f7244

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 11:53:11 AM UTC, Brian Smith wrote: > wrote: > > Also, from what I can tell of the C++ features that gcc-4.8 enables (from > > [1]), none of them are available until MSVC 2015. > > It seems likely that we'll be supporting MSVC 2013 until the next ESR, so I > > don

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

wrote: > Also, from what I can tell of the C++ features that gcc-4.8 enables (from > [1]), none of them are available until MSVC 2015. > It seems likely that we'll be supporting MSVC 2013 until the next ESR, so I > don't see that moving to 4.8 gives us any immediate benefits. > > [1] https://dev

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

Ryan VanderMeulen wrote: >> (2) The trychooser tool should be extended to make it possible to >> build with GCC 4.7 on any platforms where it is supported, and >> bootstrap.py be updated to install GCC 4.7 alongside the >> currently-installed compiler. > > All Android and B2G JB/KK emulator builds

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Wednesday, March 11, 2015 at 8:40:46 AM UTC, Mike Hommey wrote: > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:23:36PM -0700, Brian Smith wrote: > > wrote: > > > In summary: Officially make gcc-4.7 our minimum supported version. Fx38 > > > and 39 don't compile with 4.6 and none of the GNU/Linux package > > > m

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

Mike Hommey wrote: > Brian Smith wrote: >> It is very inconvenient to have a minimum supported compiler version >> that we cannot even do test builds with using tryserver. > > Why this sudden requirement when our *current* minimum "supported" > version is 4.6 and 4.6 is nowhere close to that on tr

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Tuesday, March 10, 2015 at 5:06:31 PM UTC, Ehsan Akhgari wrote: > >> Here's a push in case the bugs don't exist in certain builds: > >> https://treeherder.mozilla.org/#/jobs?repo=try&revision=044e896fc6fa > > > > I was looking at the log for a B2G Device Image build (I think it > > was the one

Re: Intent to not fix: Building with gcc-4.6 for Fx38+

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 07:23:36PM -0700, Brian Smith wrote: > wrote: > > In summary: Officially make gcc-4.7 our minimum supported version. Fx38 and > > 39 don't compile with 4.6 and none of the GNU/Linux package maintainers I > > have contacted have any major concerns over dropping it. > > I