Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread Jason Smith
Reply on: How are we planning to test this? We have seen bugs in obscure web sites which use the name of a new DOM property for example, but it seems to me like there is no easy way for somebody to verify that adding such a property doesn't break any popular website, even, since sometimes the bug

Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread Justin Dolske
On 8/12/12 5:51 AM, Robert Kaiser wrote: I think QA should do some exploratory testing of major new features as time allows, but just verifying existing test cases that often are running automatically anyhow isn't a good use of time, I guess. This is something that I think could very much be h

Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread Geo Mealer
On 2012-08-13 21:08:04 +, Geo Mealer said: Instead I'd define (formally or otherwise) three tiers: 1) Critical fixes. These need verification + additional testing. 2) Untested uncritical fixes. These have no automated tests. These should get verification if time allows. 3) Tested critical

Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread Geo Mealer
On 2012-08-10 20:41:30 +, Anthony Hughes said: I, for one, support this idea in the hypothetical form. I'd like to get various peoples' perspectives on this issue (not just QA). Like Robert says elsewhere, manually running a testcase that's already in automation doesn't make a huge amoun

Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread anthony . s . hughes
On Friday, August 10, 2012 1:41:30 PM UTC-7, Anthony Hughes wrote: > Sorry, this should have went to dev-platform... > > > > - Original Message - > > From: "Anthony Hughes" > > To: "dev-planning" > > Cc: dev-qual...@lists.mozilla.org > > Sent: Friday, August 10, 2012 1:40:15 PM >

Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread anthony . s . hughes
On Sunday, August 12, 2012 5:51:43 AM UTC-7, Robert Kaiser wrote: > Jason Smith schrieb: > > > Note - I still think it's useful for a QA driver to look through a set > > > of bugs fixed for a certain Firefox release, it's just the process would > > > be re-purposed for flagging a bug for needing

Re: Trying to build B2G for nexus s 4g

2012-08-13 Thread bmwracer0
Does 3g/calls/sms work on the ns4g yet? On Tuesday, August 7, 2012 8:42:59 AM UTC-4, mohamme...@gmail.com wrote: > Hi Chris, > > > > I would be able to help you out. Please link me to the build that you > compiled for ns4g. > > > > Thanks > > Wajee > > > > > > On Tuesday, April 3, 201

Re: Verification Culture

2012-08-13 Thread Henri Sivonen
On Fri, Aug 10, 2012 at 11:40 PM, Anthony Hughes wrote: I'm commenting only from the point of view of developing Web-exposed features into Gecko. I don't have sufficient experience to comment on QA practices as they relate to Firefox UI development, etc. > Does verifying as many fixes as we do r

Re: WheelEvent of DOM Level 3 Events now landed

2012-08-13 Thread Masayuki Nakano
On 2012/08/13 17:32, Neil wrote: Masayuki Nakano wrote: On 2012/08/13 4:57, Neil wrote: it seems as if you can't make the wheel scroll more slowly any more? Currently, yes. The reason for not supporting slower scrolling isn't technical reason. It needs some additional code. E.g., 0.5px scro

Re: WheelEvent of DOM Level 3 Events now landed

2012-08-13 Thread Neil
Masayuki Nakano wrote: On 2012/08/13 4:57, Neil wrote: it seems as if you can't make the wheel scroll more slowly any more? Currently, yes. The reason for not supporting slower scrolling isn't technical reason. It needs some additional code. E.g., 0.5px scroll isn't supported by current ES