+1 - thanks for taking care of that. Less mailing list friction = one less
confusing thing for contributors.
Seems like we should also merge IRC channels into #fxos?
On Thursday, August 27, 2015 7:48 AM, Michael Henretty
wrote:
Hello people of Firefox OS,
After a discussion we ha
> Unfortunately I can't project the feature with an integration test because
> the entire flow requires Internet download and our test bots can't access
> network. I don't think this should happen again though.
The homescreen and system app both use a mock HTTP server[1] to download and
install
Is it by chance possible to maintain support for the old format for a time
to give developers a chance to transition existing addons into the new
format?
Best,
Kevin
On Thu, Aug 6, 2015 at 11:11 AM, Fabrice Desré wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Work is ongoing to share the same add-on api across gecko ba
ensiblewebmanifesto.org/
Best,
Kevin
On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 11:07 PM, Tim Guan-tin Chien
wrote:
> On Sun, Jul 26, 2015 at 4:18 AM, Kevin Grandon
> wrote:
> >> 2) Races, start-up races everywhere
> >
> > This seems easy to fix by having the observer return a promise, a
> 2) Races, start-up races everywhere
This seems easy to fix by having the observer return a promise, and
wrapping it with .then().
> 3) It hides lock management from the caller
I personally feel that getting rid of the library is going to create more
races. I think the helper library is a nice
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The only problem I see with this is that the web components implementation
is definitely going to change, and will guarantee breakage of most web
components usage with the current implementation. I would say that we
should wait until we have an implementation which will not break in the
future now
Just wanted to say that I'm a huge supporter of this addon work - I love
how it will allow for much faster customization of the device without
hacking on the core apps. After working on several addons so far, I would
actually think that the current order you have them in right now is a
pretty good
Gabriele -
This looks really great, thanks for the tip! It seems like needing the
history of things pulled in by config.sh would be the exception, and not
the norm. How do you feel about making this the default?
Best,
Kevin
On Tue, May 12, 2015 at 4:01 PM, Gabriele Svelto
wrote:
> [cross-posti
Which base image did you install on the flame before flashing Gecko?
Best,
Kevin
On Mon, May 11, 2015 at 5:57 PM, wrote:
> I'm building gecko on OSX 10.9.5 for a flame. My workflow is:
>
> ./config.sh flame-kk
> ./build.sh gecko
> ./flash.sh gecko
>
> The build succeeds yet the flame doesn't bo
Kumar - did you flash a flame base image on the open C? I don't think
you're supposed to do that, but I don't know these devices too well. Can
you send the link of the documentation where you read that?
Is there anything interesting in logcat?
Best,
Kevin
On Sun, May 10, 2015 at 5:29 PM, Kumar R
Sorry about the blank post, still learning how to use lists apparently.
Question - is it possible to flash an image using the b2g flash tool? Any
reason I would need to flash Android first if upgrading from a KK flash?
Best,
Kevin
On Tue, Apr 14, 2015 at 10:37 AM, Kevin Grandon
wrote
On Mon, Apr 13, 2015 at 11:26 PM, Shawn Huang wrote:
> NEXUS-5-L now is based on 5.1. Please flash Android LMY47D image first
> then Firefox OS, if you only auto-update gecko.
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I believe this was changed to holding the power button + volume down for a
short while. Some devices only have a software home button so this needed
to change.
Best,
Kevin
On Thu, Mar 12, 2015 at 10:19 AM, Klearchos-Angelos Gkountras <
jema...@openmailbox.org> wrote:
> Hello there ,
> I am usi
Hey Jan,
What you're doing with janOS is great, and it's great to see some
experimentation with IoT. I love hacking on hardware, so I'd like to see us
do *something* with FxOS and hardware.
+1 to what Gabriele said though. I'm curious about what the advantages are
of building your own dev board i
Do we really want to fully deprecate packaged apps? I think making hosted
apps and packaged apps equals is a big win, but I'm not sure if fully
deprecating packaged apps is a good idea.
There are many developers who like the ability to not run and maintain a
server. It's simply less work and overh
I just checked and it looks like we still don't have a bug filed for
exposing web components to the web, so I would assume we're still quite far
from that. I would say that we should probably have them within the 3.0
timeline though.
Not really sure what the best thing to follow is, perhaps this m
It also sounds like the user is trying to flash the flame-kk images to a
ZTE Open C? It seems like that might cause problems as well.
Best,
Kevin
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So do we have to import the calendar every time you add/change an event?
Should we get this added to the public FirefoxOS calendar instead?
Best,
Kevin
On Wed, Jan 14, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Christopher Lord wrote:
> Hello folks,
>
> TL;DR: Office hours meeting, Friday, 4:00pm-6:30pm GMT, my vidyo ro
tain both and answer the inevitable web developer questions
about which to use is less than ideal. I am excited about the new sync API,
and I see it replacing most mozAlarms in gaia so we can leverage a single
solution.
Best,
Kevin
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:26 PM, Fabrice Desré wrote:
> On 01/
So now the other question, is there any advantage of using mozAlarms over
sync? Should mozAlarm usage be deprecated?
Best,
Kevin
On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:08 PM, Jonas Sicking wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 12:14 PM, Michael Henretty
> wrote:
> > Thanks for the heads up Baku!
> >
> > What is t
Just curious, would this be a non-issue if we stored more information than
just a boolean? What if we stored additional information say, in JSON? Have
we thought about using datastore?
As we've seen in the past moving stuff into gecko can be a slippery slope,
so we should definitely think this out
I recently posted a message to dev-gaia which folks on this list may be
interested in regarding customization and opening up our apis:
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/mozilla.dev.gaia/RRPhob9WqSQ
Please take the conversation to dev-gaia, and let me know if you'd like to
participate.
Be
Just an update that this meeting has been moved to Thursday at 5:00pm. This
should give us some more time to plan, and find a mic to use.
Sign up on the etherpad:
https://etherpad.mozilla.org/PDX-engineering-lightning-talks
Best,
Kevin
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Have something you've been working on, something you want to work on, or an
idea you want to talk about? We'll be holding lightning talks on Tuesday at
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Kevin
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The problems are fixed now, so we should be good to go. These fixes haven't
propagated to m-c builds yet, so gaia-try will still show red builds. I'd
recommend rebasing in a few hours once b-i merges to m-c.
Best,
Kevin
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From: "Kevin Gran
Gaia is closed again as of this morning for Gij bustage.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1098155
Getting Gij unhidden is our top priority right now, and it's getting close.
This should avoid these closures in the future.
Best,
Kevin
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Question for those who are complaining about taking screenshots. What version
of the phone are you using? I've noticed that on 2.2 (and probably 2.1), the
new delay makes it a much more deliberate action. It just seems that we can
solve this through software, and I think we may have already done
The idea of the DESKTOP=1 helpers was that they provide some basic API shims
that were not available on Firefox Nightly before. I am sure that there are
still some shims that we want to mock in the new simulator, we should probably
just go through and check them one by one.
For now though, it w
Watching these guys work has been amazing. This will take our 2+ hour test test
suite runs down to ~10 minutes. I can't wait for this to hit production.
Also here's the correct link for gaia master:
https://treeherder.allizom.org/ui/#/jobs?repo=gaia-master
Best,
Kevin
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Doh! I think the failing tests in 2.1 could totally be my fault. I added
support for the SHB in b2g desktop and I don't think it made it into v2.1 =/
https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/commit/c0de5b317b23e9b28bde156efe9c8c0fa6745025
It's a small-ish patch, so maybe we could make an allowance fo
I have logs after all, probably a weird cable. I think I'm seeing the seeing
the same issue as bug 1075401, so not related to the APZ issue.
Best,
Kevin
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From: "Kevin Grandon"
To: "Kartikaya Gupta"
Cc: mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
Not sure if it's releated, but installing a master OTA update to my dogfood
flame this morning totally bricked my device. It doesn't boot and ADB doesn't
come up.
I'm going to re-install the base image now and see if I can reproduce.
Best,
Kevin
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From: "Kartikaya Gu
uld have the engineer apps and then update to 2.0 with non-engineer
apps.--
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On Mon, Sep 29, 2014 at 2:58 PM, Kevin Grandon
wrote:
> The main issues I have noticed with the v180 base image are
The main issues I have noticed with the v180 base image are pretty bad.
1 - No fonts when we had previous base images which had fonts bundled.
2 - Engineering apps are installed by default - this is not ideal for end users
because a lot of them can not be removed.
I think that these are P1 issue
Hi,
This is currently being tracked here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1070830
It seems a lot of people still rely on this environment, so I'll try to get
someone looking at it this week. We might want to see if in the meantime we can
use aurora or beta.
Best,
Kevin
- Ori
Hi Alive,
This sounds good to me. Looking at the pull request, it looks like we have yet
additional API wrappers only living in the system app, which I would prefer to
avoid if possible. I would like to first see if we can augment the settings
API, and if we do something in gaia, I think we sho
Let's take this to a bug. I've filed one to track this here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1070830
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Kumar Rishav"
To: "SPorwal"
Cc: mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Sunday, September 21, 2014 11:21:21 PM
Subject: Re: [b2g] Un
sage -
From: "Dietrich Ayala"
To: "Kevin Grandon"
Cc: "dev-b2g" , "dev-gaia"
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2014 5:01:32 PM
Subject: Re: New air.mozilla channel for FirefoxOS videos/meetings
That's awesome, thanks Kevin. And if you're not t
We now have a fully-functioning air.mozilla.org channel to upload videos or
host meetings. Currently we just have a few of the weekly gaia engineering
meetings listed there, and will continue to record these into the future. You
can find the channel here: https://air.mozilla.org/channels/firefox
I'm not sure about your issue but I'd recommend using the backup/restore tool:
https://github.com/Mozilla-TWQA/B2G-flash-tool/blob/master/backup_restore_profile.sh
Tim - if you don't have a backup, you may consider trying that tool and
restoring on top of a master build.
Also Aurora is currentl
"Since today's uplift, B2G emulator dep builds (regular per-push builds) are
running and passing tests. However, *nightly* builds are a sea of orange. So
this mostly likely comes down to build config differences between dep builds
and nightly builds.
Aurora is closed until the cause of this is
Thanks Johan!
Very nice dashboard, and great presentation today.
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Johan Lorenzo"
To: dev-g...@lists.mozilla.org, dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2014 5:11:13 PM
Subject: [Follow up] B2G smoketests dashboard
Hi folks,
Followin
Sounds good to me. This is actually exactly what we do for the home screen. We
have two different profiles, one with 'high' capabilities, and one with 'low'.
Low capability devices are defined with anything less than 512mb of memory.
https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/e13f1f667a49160c3fa3e
ut the instructions assume Nightly. I'll
update that to be Nightly everywhere, since it probably has a better
chance of running at any given point than Firefox 3 versions back.
On Mon, Jul 28, 2014 at 9:26 AM, Kevin Grandon < kgran...@mozilla.com > wrote:
> It's never been official
g
Sent: Tuesday, June 3, 2014 8:56:17 AM
Subject: Re: [b2g] Smoketest Regressions on Trunk are Out of Control
On 03/06/14 17:39, Kevin Grandon wrote:
> Having a tree closure in the last week to FL is super painful. It certainly
> adds a lot of risk to the vertical homescreen and other fea
Having a tree closure in the last week to FL is super painful. It certainly
adds a lot of risk to the vertical homescreen and other features.
What is the criteria to get the tree re-opened? Is it resolving all of the
mentioned bugs?
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Anthony Ricau
Just wanted to send a note to let you know that current trunk is broken, so
maybe avoid updating gecko for a little bit. I've been pinged a few times
offline and didn't see an update, so thought it'd make sense to notify everyone.
A fix is in the works and is being tracked in bug 957086.
Best,
Bump... I had some others partners ask me this as well. These guys contribute a
significant amount of code, let's get them some flames if we can.
- Original Message -
From: "Jan Jongboom"
To: mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 10:55:47 AM
Subject: [b2g] Can
Could you potentially use mozAlarms to wake your app up in case it gets closed?
This is what we do for calendar to synchronize events with the server.
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/WebAPI/Alarm
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: porschekoe...@googlemail.com
To: mozilla-dev-.
What response do you see when you navigate to this in the browser app?
Localhost could be giving you some problems ;-)
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Santosh Shingare"
To: mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Tuesday, May 20, 2014 12:14:06 PM
Subject: Re: [b2g] Responses not
+1. If you follow any kind of social media you'll know we've been getting
slammed over poor support for updating certain devices. The more power we have
over this the better.
Regarding moving apps from certified -> privileged, I think this will be a big
win and will allow us to move quite a few
Thanks for the reminder David. I think it would definitely help sheriffs and
our tree if we all followed these backout procedures. Gaia moves extremely
fast, and we often see conflicts when backing things out. Gaia developers are
probably the best suited to handle these conflicts.
We can additi
A patch is on the way that should turn the tree green again.
Although we've done a poor job merging branches to master lately, this is
another issue that would've been caught by bug 864178. It's been causing way
too many issues lately so we really need to fix it to have the environments
running
Just sending out an update in case you're not following the bug. The tree is
still closed - ouch. We have been fixing tests, and handling the npm timeout
issue. The last remaining issue is a mystery gecko regression that causes tests
to stop running, and travis to timeout. This comment from Gare
Just saw that this was sent to dev-b2g when it is likely more relevant to
dev-gaia.
Also - I thought we were merging these lists anyway?
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Jonathan Griffin"
To: "dev-b2g"
Sent: Thursday, February 13, 2014 4:53:09 PM
Subject: [b2g] Gaia Try Server
This is amazing! This will save us tons of time debugging and testing, thanks
for the effort!
Also for devs who like git, I always push to try using moz-git-tools, and it
makes it super easy (never need to tough HG).
https://github.com/mozilla/moz-git-tools
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message
+1 to killing all the errors. It may be nice if some day our core apps, could
run in other environments, but I think that is such a low priority that a
single css error in the logs should trump all of that.
-Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Fabrice Desré"
To: "Julien Wajsberg" , "Hube
Seems like that could be the issue, I will relay the information. Thanks Naoki!
Thanks,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Naoki Hirata"
To: "Kevin Grandon"
Cc: "Diego Wilson" , "Dev B2G List"
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 2:10:43 PM
Subject
"Diego Wilson"
To: "Kevin Grandon"
Cc: "Dev B2G List"
Sent: Monday, January 13, 2014 1:57:29 PM
Subject: Re: [b2g] Details on hardware composer?
I can help you out. Is there anything in specific you’d like to know?
What kind of problems are seen in helix and keon?
O
Hey Guys,
Can anyone provide details on hardware composer? I'm having to provide quite a
bit of support for people (just telling people that they need to disable the
preference when things get crazy).
It seems to behave pretty poorly on the helix and keon devices. Any information
I can relay h
Most of our apps don't, but browser, camera, gallery, and video should support
landscape mode to an extent. Nice going media apps :) Now let's catch up with
the rest of them.
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Julien Wajsberg"
To: "A. Crespo" , "Dev B2G List"
Sent: Monday, Janua
I'm not really sure how the mirroring works, but all of our work is done on
github and mirrored over to HG. I can tell that most of those branches on HG
look to be old feature branches, that are no longer needed. So perhaps we're
missing the part where we prune removed branches in github?
Best,
I generally flash gaia and gecko separately, so I'm not sure if there's good
tricks for this. It looks like the script here would be pretty easy to modify
to support what's needed:
https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/B2G/blob/master/flash.sh#L255
Best,
Kevin
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From: "A. C
You may want to look into this file and see how the object is used in different
apps:
https://github.com/mozilla-b2g/gaia/blob/master/shared/js/settings_listener.js
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Manjunatha M"
To: dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2013 7:48
TLDR: You may need to do a reset-gaia if you often install single apps.
In bug 945903 we changed the default path of installed apps for eng builds from
/data/local to /system/b2g. This was because people with PRODUCTION builds were
often having trouble seeing apps update when running the make in
So Tim had some concern for having a gaia only channel. If we do merge to
dev-fxos, then all of this would happen over dev-fxos (and people who normally
focus on platform features may get a lot of email that they aren't necessarily
interested in).
I am personally ok to receiving more FxOS relat
I don't have much to add except this seems like much better syntax than what we
are forced to do in Chrome for layer promotion (adding -webkit-transform:
translateZ(0); for example).
As long as there is some path forward for the open web I'm happy with it. Are
we not going to prefix it with -mo
rn an empty list of networks when called on b2g
desktop.
Best,
Kevin
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From: "Dale Harvey"
To: "Jonathan Watt"
Cc: "Kevin Grandon" , "dev-b2g"
, mozilla-dev-...@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Wednesday, November 20, 2013 5:03:08 AM
can also tie this stuff into
travis/TBPL and run gaia ui tests on different consumers of `desktop` targets
to ensure things don't break.
Please let me know if you have any concerns/questions.
Best,
Kevin Grandon
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Hi Caio,
I'm not too sure what's going on with B2G desktop - perhaps there are some
problems running with a DEBUG profile?
I generally try to use the latest Firefox nightly and gaia master at least once
a day to ensure things are working. If you send a screenshot of what you're
seeing in the b
Hi,
This is currently being tracked here:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=896523 Looks like there hasn't
been a recent update, but I'll try to track down Paul and ask nicely :)
In the meantime you can try using dump() statements to log to standard out, or
launching the SMS app ins
Additionally this would be really nice to have for select elements:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=649849
We currently have some really nasty workarounds for this in gaia.
-Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Ismael González"
To: "B2G Dev List"
Sent: Thursday, August 22, 2
Yeah, pointer events definitely seem like the winner in the long term. For now,
I would imagine that we'll be using touch events in gaia apps for a few reasons:
1 - It helps with testing.
2 - It should be more performant on the devices because we don't need to
provide shims.
3 - They'll work on
1 without the
DEBUG flag. It would be nice if we could ensure that the B2G binaries ship with
a gaia profile generated with: DESKTOP=1 make
Best,
Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Fabrice Desre"
To: "Kevin Grandon"
Cc: dev-b2g@lists.mozilla.org
Sent: Tuesday, July
Hey Guys,
Unfortunately I think I may have broken B2G desktop for some people, see bug
#891882. Basically I changed the lockscreen to use touch events instead of
mouse events. This is supported in gaia running in firefox because we have a
shim for touch events, but broken in some cases for B2G
Hi folks,
We've recently landed a gaia patch which will use a different folder for DEBUG
profiles compared to PRODUCTION profiles. By default, the new folder is now
located in gaia/profile-debug. It's possible to override this by passing in
your own folder name, e.g.: DEBUG=1 PROFILE_FOLDER=awe
It appears that there actually is a semi-working Japanese keyboard if you
enable the "keyboard.layouts.japanese" setting.
It looks like a solid start, but needs a bit of polish before we could enable
it for production looks like.
-Kevin
- Original Message -
From: "Mounir Lamouri"
To:
r platform products. She is
quite technical and hands-on as well as a great mentor building winning teams.
Bob Moss, James Lal, Kevin Grandon and I have all had the pleasure of working
with her on multiple projects seeing her deliver quality products.
She will initially be managing part of the
p. I don't remember all
of the details, but it works something like:
1 - Create an Iframe to a local HTML file which redirects to the Oauth provider.
2 - When the Oauth provider redirects back to your iframe, use postMessage to
notify the parent.
3 - The parent window can then close the ifram
Hi Sergi,
I have seen that, and I think the swipe selection is very cool! I'm sure we can
experiment with the swipe integration, but we should probably integrate it in
the same way that third party keyboards would.
I'm sure we can build the event hooks necessary to modify the selection based
o
was interested.
Best,
Kevin Grandon
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You can navigate to individual apps via domain. E.g., calendar.gaiamobile.org,
or communications.gaiamobile.org.
There's also a plugin which will make the system app work:
https://github.com/KevinGrandon/Firefox-OS-Runtime/
Best,
Kevin Grandon
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From: "wirat
Initially I would start only with building blocks, and expand as possible. The
"primary action" and "media" icon sets are probably the place to start. These
are all flat icons and would be good candidates for an icon font.
This would give us ~100 icons and should cover almost all of building bl
s for components/apps which should take advantage of the icon font. I'd
love to hear what you guys think of this approach.
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