Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Leif Hedstrom
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 8:49 PM, Sudheer Vinukonda > wrote: > > That said, seems like a similar use case could be, if we ever wanted to > persist an origin server error rate or down status etc or anything that’s > dynamic similar to the administratively disabling h2 support status. Right, fo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Sudheer Vinukonda
That said, seems like a similar use case could be, if we ever wanted to persist an origin server error rate or down status etc or anything that’s dynamic similar to the administratively disabling h2 support status. > On Sep 5, 2023, at 7:45 PM, Sudheer Vinukonda > wrote: > > Ugh sorry, shou

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Sudheer Vinukonda
Ugh sorry, should’ve read carefully - the use case seems more related to turning on/off h2 at a individual server level (and not at an origin level) and not a origin configuration which is unrelated. Sorry for the confusion! > On Sep 5, 2023, at 7:33 PM, Sudheer Vinukonda > wrote: > > Yea

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Sudheer Vinukonda
Yeah, I meant the origin server session sharing configuration is a similar example to that of configuring an origin’s H2 support that was brought up, not that it’s related to HostDB. > On Sep 5, 2023, at 7:12 PM, SUSAN HINRICHS wrote: > > I am also ok with removing the hostdb persistence. >

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread SUSAN HINRICHS
I am also ok with removing the hostdb persistence. I am confused about how this is similar to origin server session sharing. On Tue, Sep 5, 2023, 6:12 PM Sudheer Vinukonda wrote: > >> I think this is similar to the the current and existing ugliness we > have around marking parents down as well

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Sudheer Vinukonda
>> I think this is similar to the the current and existing ugliness we have >>around marking parents down as well (which uses librecords and persistent >>metrics to store string values). That’s not great either, so a general >>concept of a persistent key-value store is needed already! I thin

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Leif Hedstrom
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 3:59 PM, Masakazu Kitajo wrote: > > Sounds reasonable. > > Just one question. What would be the best places to store information like > "This origin server supports / prefers / breaks H2" ? We might want to > administratively disable H2-to-Origin for a particular origin s

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Masakazu Kitajo
Sounds reasonable. Just one question. What would be the best places to store information like "This origin server supports / prefers / breaks H2" ? We might want to administratively disable H2-to-Origin for a particular origin server. We currently don't use HostDB for it but I'm not sure where we

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Leif Hedstrom
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 9:44 AM, David Carlin wrote: > > These settings are for /etc/hosts - are their removal required to get rid > of persistent storage? > >proxy.config.hostdb.host_file.path >proxy.config.hostdb.host_file.interval Ok, I’ve updated the PR, which retains the /etc/host

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Sudheer Vinukonda
Ah, makes sense - Apologies, I misunderstood/misread the original email as we are removing HostDB altogether. Looks like the proposal is to only remove the persistence of HostDB. Agree that there is very little value with HostDB persistence today and you are correct that we are not leveraging t

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Leif Hedstrom
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 9:53 AM, Sudheer Vinukonda > wrote: > > To minimize the impact on the existing users, should we keep the feature (in > the same disabled state) until an alternative is added/supported? No :). There won’t be an alternative added, either we keep what we have, or we remo

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Leif Hedstrom
> On Sep 5, 2023, at 9:44 AM, David Carlin wrote: > > These settings are for /etc/hosts - are their removal required to get rid > of persistent storage? > >proxy.config.hostdb.host_file.path >proxy.config.hostdb.host_file.interval Hmmm, that was not the intent, let me look at the co

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread Sudheer Vinukonda
To minimize the impact on the existing users, should we keep the feature (in the same disabled state) until an alternative is added/supported? On Tuesday, September 5, 2023 at 08:38:03 AM PDT, Leif Hedstrom wrote: I’d like to remove the feature for persistent HostDB storage for ATS v10

Re: [PROPOSAL] Remove persistent storage for HostDB

2023-09-05 Thread David Carlin
These settings are for /etc/hosts - are their removal required to get rid of persistent storage? proxy.config.hostdb.host_file.path proxy.config.hostdb.host_file.interval Using /etc/hosts is very useful for troubleshooting, so I can point to a specific origin server temporarily and still