Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
Hi, On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 09:10:37PM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > I'm really at a point to consider forking dwm and dmenu to simply rely > on X11 as it used to be, perhaps with going the extra mile to remove > Xinerama support as well and to rely on single headed setups. I feel the same about st.

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Hiltjo Posthuma
On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 09:10:37PM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > Hi there, > > I have been revising dmenu/dwm/libsl in terms of simplicity due to a > migration to OpenBSD recently. > > I can't get my head around on how much the elegance and clarity of > dwm/dmenu/libsl code has suffered from the intro

Re: [dev] Re: freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Quentin Rameau
Hello Anselm, > I did investigate the options and made up my mind. Here is my verdict: > > The idea behind libsl has to be improved in code and I will work on > this. The drw.h API is not strictly enough defined and both dwm and > dmenu access certain aspects of drw.h that they shouldn't, which

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 01:49:01PM +0200, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote: > For st there was a X11/terminal code split to support Wayland, automated > testing of terminal emulator code. Now there are abstractions but it is not > useful. Maybe it should be reverted also? The abstractions in st are really sm

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread sylvain . bertrand
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 01:49:01PM +0200, Hiltjo Posthuma wrote: > For st there was a X11/terminal code split to support Wayland, automated > testing of terminal emulator code. Now there are abstractions but it is not > useful. Maybe it should be reverted also? Hi, st has a clean wayland fork? BT

Re: [dev] Re: freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread AR Garbe
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 04:59, Quentin Rameau wrote: > > The idea behind libsl has to be improved in code and I will work on > > this. The drw.h API is not strictly enough defined and both dwm and > > dmenu access certain aspects of drw.h that they shouldn't, which makes > > it currently impossibl

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread AR Garbe
Hi Roberto, On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 01:59, Roberto E. Vargas Caballero wrote: > On Sat, Sep 22, 2018 at 09:10:37PM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > > I'm really at a point to consider forking dwm and dmenu to simply rely > > on X11 as it used to be, perhaps with going the extra mile to remove > > Xinerama

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread AR Garbe
On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 06:37, wrote: > st has a clean wayland fork? BTW, suckless wayland compositor, still too early > to talk about it? I think a suckless wayland compositor - if it is something to be worked on, should become a separate project. Best regards, Anselm

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread sylvain . bertrand
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 06:37, wrote: > > st has a clean wayland fork? BTW, suckless wayland compositor, still too > > early > > to talk about it? And has st a wayland backend or fork? -- Sylvain

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Eric Pruitt
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 09:14:11AM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > I totally agree. I'd be in favour in a st just using plain X fonts. > This emoji unicode porn and anti-aliasing TTF support doesn't make > sense to me. It's not just about Emoji or anti-aliasing. If you work with languages that use non-La

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Silvan Jegen
[2018-09-23 17:20] sylvain.bertr...@gmail.com > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 09:22:00AM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > > On Sun, 23 Sep 2018 at 06:37, wrote: > > > st has a clean wayland fork? BTW, suckless wayland compositor, still too > > > early > > > to talk about it? > > And has st a wayland backend o

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread AR Garbe
On 23 September 2018 at 11:56, Eric Pruitt wrote: > On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 09:14:11AM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: >> I totally agree. I'd be in favour in a st just using plain X fonts. >> This emoji unicode porn and anti-aliasing TTF support doesn't make >> sense to me. > > It's not just about Emoji o

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Eric Pruitt
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:19:46PM -0700, AR Garbe wrote: > On 23 September 2018 at 11:56, Eric Pruitt wrote: > > It's not just about Emoji or anti-aliasing. If you work with languages > > that use non-Latin characters, support for fallback fonts is a must. > > Well, are you using st with glyphs t

Re: [dev] freetype2/fc pain

2018-09-23 Thread Eric Pruitt
On Sun, Sep 23, 2018 at 11:31:29PM -0700, Eric Pruitt wrote: > Yes, st's fallback font support is the main reason I began to use it. I > use st and dwm with Japanese and Chinese text almost every single day. I forgot to add that supporting Japanese, Chinese and Korean is THE reason I wrote "Add Xf