[dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread Martti Kühne
Hello community >From the perspective of someone who started off with the fairy-tale technologies in web development, I find working with C proves as quite an interesting experiment. I used to slip into rewriting more or less the same things for different code bases and it really irks me that ther

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread FRIGN
On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 11:21:13 +0100 Martti Kühne wrote: > That also means, no, I won't cut corners like to leave the releasing > of resources and file descriptors to the operating system or use die() > in what is supposed to be library code where error handling must > clearly be up to the caller.

Re: [dev] designing a suckless bignum library

2015-11-22 Thread hiro
@marc: i use ed in scripts.

Re: [dev] sj: ucspi

2015-11-22 Thread Jan Klemkow
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 02:20:51AM -0500, Matthew of Boswell wrote: > On Sun, 22 Nov 2015 03:21:12 +0100 > Jan Klemkow wrote: > > I implemented STARTTLS. But there is a hard coded hack, that there is > > no certificate verification at the moment. I have to find a way to give > > options through

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread Dimitris Papastamos
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 11:21:13AM +0100, Martti Kühne wrote: > My experience with suckless software has shown me pretty clearly that > the tradeoffs in code quality around here are not really acceptable > for code that I wanted both to release or work on myself, and let's > face it, it doesn't hel

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread hiro
martti: you wanna build a framework?

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread Martti Kühne
On Sun, Nov 22, 2015 at 7:22 PM, hiro <23h...@gmail.com> wrote: > martti: you wanna build a framework? > ...is it reinventing the wheel every time you live for? cheers! mar77i

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-22 Thread n
> ACE hat am 21. November 2015 um 14:36 geschrieben: > > > On 11/20, Claudio wrote: > > I've implemented a web-based "port" of sent called wsent. I agree > > to not use the web for anything so I decided to abandon the project > > after reading the Quenting Rameau post where he suggests a slide

Re: [dev] [sent] 0.1 release

2015-11-22 Thread tautolog
I suggest that "be a chance to be popular" be changed to "satisfy more use cases". You wouldn't want to offend anyone's anti-populist sensibilities. ;) Ben   Original Message   From: Pickfire Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 8:36 AM To: dev@suckless.org Reply To: dev mail list Subject: Re: [dev

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread Martti Kühne
Currently this work is about exploring the possibilities, the limitations and the ease that comes from bulk and buffer which I can tune precisely to fit my needs. I looked at all the languages that were fun to work with and asked myself whether I was capable to take that fun into standard C. I wrot

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread Staven
Too Long; Died Reading

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread tautolog
I actually like the idea. I was just talking to Ben   Original Message   From: Martti Kühne Sent: Sunday, November 22, 2015 4:00 PM To: dev mail list Reply To: dev mail list Subject: Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C Currently this work is about exploring the possibilities, the l

Re: [dev] Announcement: Backporting the fun into C

2015-11-22 Thread tautolog
I accidentally hit send early. Anyway, I was talking to a developer friend who didn't know C, but knew php, and was explaining how he can work with much of the code he was a bit intimidated by because the memory handling and the fancy pointer stuff is outside the main business logic, so it isn't