Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread Jens Staal
torsdagen den 16 augusti 2012 06.59.45 skrev pancake: > Using mk takes sense as long as init scripts are a dependency based system. > Please go on. That looks fun > > Looks like doing suckless software implies surviving to troll comments. > > Your software will be suckless when trolls stop throw

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread David Tweed
I'll just note that, regardless of code quality, etc, there's the question of what the end-user usability goals for an init system should be. Is it just to bring up the system, or is it to bring up the system fast enough to use in an "quickbooting" environment (<5s off an SSD)? I'm very inclined t

Re: [dev] dmenu, dwm and two screens

2012-08-16 Thread v4hn
Hey Martti, these patches work like a charme, thanks! If this is the most simple way of fixing this mess, then I vote for adding it to upstream. Still this looks like patchwork to me.. dmenu fails to detect the active screen in dwm. So either the detection is broken or dwm does not support the de

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 12:00:03PM +0100, David Tweed wrote: > I'll just note that, regardless of code quality, etc, there's the > question of what the end-user usability goals for an init system > should be. No. An "end user" should not even be aware init exists. The people an init system has t

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread Robert Ransom
On 8/14/12, Kurt H Maier wrote: > More distros > should focus on using init to bring up the system and then leave > userspace daemons to daemontools or such. Does Plan 9 need a service supervision service (like daemontools on Unixoids)? If it does need one, what should it look like? Robert Ran

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread David Tweed
Well, yes-and-no. The end user (who in the case of many linux desktops and laptops is also the sys admin) may not be aware of how things are structured "under the hood", but they can perceive "laptop X spends a lot of time doing stuff when I turn it on, while laptop Y is usable almost instantly". T

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 02:39:43PM +0100, David Tweed wrote: > Well, yes-and-no. The end user (who in the case of many linux desktops > and laptops is also the sys admin) may not be aware of how things are > structured "under the hood", but they can perceive "laptop X spends a > lot of time doing s

Re: [dev] a suckless init system?

2012-08-16 Thread David Tweed
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 3:19 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 02:39:43PM +0100, David Tweed wrote: >> Well, yes-and-no. The end user (who in the case of many linux desktops >> and laptops is also the sys admin) may not be aware of how things are >> structured "under the hood", but

Re: [dev] dmenu, dwm and two screens

2012-08-16 Thread Martti Kühne
On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 02:14:53PM +0200, v4hn wrote: > Hey Martti, > > these patches work like a charme, thanks! > If this is the most simple way of fixing this mess, > then I vote for adding it to upstream. > > Still this looks like patchwork to me.. > dmenu fails to detect the active screen in

[dev] Bug when unfocusing/focusing GTK3 windows

2012-08-16 Thread Josh Rickmar
This is a focusing issue that was noticed when we (me and many of the the other xombrero devs) noticed when we switched our browser from GTK2 to GTK3. If a GTK3 window is shown and focused on one tag, and I switch to another tag with no windows on it, whenever I switch back to the tag with the GTK

[dev] Perl/Linux

2012-08-16 Thread Lorenzo Bolla
Now, this is what we all need and love! http://perllinux.sourceforge.net/ -- Lorenzo Bolla http://lbolla.info