It has occured to me that web-servers should be sending the content in
json format, with the first page load on the site loading a html page
with the json handler in the head. Then if you didn't like the UI
provided by the site you could replace it with your own by using your
own JS and handling th
On Thu, 3 Nov 2011 18:14:12 +1100
Alex Hutton wrote:
>It has occured to me that web-servers should be sending the content in
>json format, with the first page load on the site loading a html page
>with the json handler in the head. Then if you didn't like the UI
>provided by the site you could re
On 03.11.2011 09:42, Hadrian Węgrzynowski wrote:
We would need something more like Markdown web or gopher... We want
content! Presentation could be only client's issue.
If somebody likes Apple look then every site could look like one.
If one likes plain text look then every site could look like
On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 10:03:20AM +0100, Pierre Chapuis wrote:
> I would say the closest thing to that currently on the
> Web is Atom. I could imagine a Web of content where text documents
> are written in Markdown and structured data is Atom or something
> similar built on JSON.
Indeed. Or RDF/T
On 11/03/11 at 09:14am, Nick wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 03, 2011 at 10:03:20AM +0100, Pierre Chapuis wrote:
> the technology. It's the people who are charged with "web
> design" in our brand obsessed world. Making the web
> increasingly more difficult to use and more unpleasant for
> us all. And I don't
As someone who has been a bit of WHATWG/HTML5 fan boy over the years,
I find the latest round of dev list Web moaning a little naive to say
the least. Unless you guys are trying to be funny or sarcastic (aka
lowest form of wit). Sometimes it's hard to tell. :)
If you are moaning about "Web designe
Somebody claiming to be Kai Hendry wrote:
As someone who has been a bit of WHATWG/HTML5 fan boy over the years,
I find the latest round of dev list Web moaning a little naive to say
the least. Unless you guys are trying to be funny or sarcastic (aka
lowest form of wit). Sometimes it's hard to tel
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote:
> what does that even mean? wmii *requires* ruby? Never heard of that.
This configuration requires ruby. Try to keep up.
--
# Kurt H Maier
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 1:36 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim
> wrote:
> > what does that even mean? wmii *requires* ruby? Never heard of that.
>
> This configuration requires ruby. Try to keep up.
>
>
hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, beca
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 8:57 AM, Stephen Paul Weber
wrote:
> Perhaps you love the WHATWG enough to miss the point: we keep hiring
> magazine-trained designers to build websites. Standards can't fix that.
This is the crux of the problem. Couldn't have expressed the issue
better myself.
We need to
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:47 AM, Jeffrey 'jf' Lim wrote:
> hm. I see. So your argument was to disown wmii, because this *specific*
> configuration - and NOT wmii itself - requires ruby. Alright.
No, I want to disown wmii because it's a bloated >30ksloc monstrosity
that engenders other lesser monst
On Thu, Nov 3, 2011 at 9:49 AM, Bryan Bennett wrote:
> This is the crux of the problem. Couldn't have expressed the issue
> better myself.
> We need to train designers and developers to truly separate content
> from presentation
> and then impart meaningful hierarchy upon the actual data. This wil
In my experience, this is getting better. We're now seeing universities
with web media degrees or focuses, which imparts this understanding
of data structure first and style later. It's not perfect, but it's better than
it was in 1998. For instance, they still teach UA sniffing and similar
techniqu
On 3 November 2011 13:59, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Absolutely correct. The problem is cultural, not technical, and no
> amount of standards revision will help.
Ok we've formed an elitist enclave without those "magazine-trained
designers"... so now what?
Spend our days taking the piss out of them?
Yeah, and C engendered Java.
Just use your own "configuration" if you don't like it. And an older
version of wmii if you don't like change.
I'm simply saying that a lot of web designer types are now
beginning to understand that the way we're looking at the
web is actually a valid viewpoint.
Greetings.
Kai Hendry wrote:
> On 3 November 2011 13:59, Kurt H Maier wrote:
>> Absolutely correct. The problem is cultural, not technical, and no
>> amount of standards revision will help.
>
> Ok we've formed an elitist enclave without those "magazine-trained
> designers"... so now what?
>
>
I was careless with my last email. The behaviour of arrows is broken
not in dmenu, but in the following patch. The right (forward) arrow stopped
working. Any idea how to fix that?
Sincerely,
s.
> Here's a patch that solves the common cases. There's a ton of potential
> issues (complex Unicode
On 11/3/11, Kai Hendry wrote:
> I'd prefer if you mocked me. http://geekout.org.uk/ or
> http://hendry.iki.fi/ or http://greptweet.com/ ... I'll listen to your
> criticisms!
>
What does the following excerpt from http://geekout.org.uk/ mean?
Poland
Hi,
One thing that *rumor* has it surf can't handle are fancy-schmancy
downloads, for instance, I'm told RapidShare fails[1]. On #suckless,
it was decided that we might want to slip a modified version of njw's
patch[2] into surf tip. (The modified version is below.)
The deal is that in the unmo
I think you misunderstand. While he may wish that no user again uses wmii,
that is not what he has stated here. His stated wish is wmii's removal from
suckless.org because it does not meet suckless standards.
--Andrew Hills
On 3 November 2011 02:23, Kurt H Maier wrote:
> Any word on a timetable for disowning wmii? This is a four-hundred
> line configuration that requires a 1600-line library, not to mention
> an entire extra programming language.
>
> To manage x11 windows.
I'm in the process arranging and performing
Nothing you do to a web standard will ever keep a designer from using an
image to display text content except disallowing the transfer of images.
--Andrew Hills
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