Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Stefan Mark
On 04.05.2011 23:00, Rob wrote: > And apply the patch. It might not apply cleanly since I diff'd from my > heavily patched dwm, so you'll have to do some shuftying. > There are also two other transparency patches available at the dwm site: http://dwm.suckless.org/patches/transparency (configurable

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 6 May 2011 08:28, Jacob Todd wrote: > This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist. I second this. This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;) And it is not really hard to conclude that translucent terminals are bad for your eyes. After a short phase of being en

Re: [dev] Why dwm or wmii over xmonad, etc., or not?

2011-05-06 Thread Aurélien Aptel
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:18 AM, Nathan Neff wrote: > 2.5) Easy / sensible defaults.  Sorry but Emacs-style "shortcut keys" > are an oxymoron.  Any window manager > that uses Emacs "Key Chords" is immediately disqualified.  With wmii you > switch > between windows and tags with 2 keystrokes max.  

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread ilf
On 05-06 09:33, Anselm R Garbe wrote: This thread is no longer fun. Take this crap offlist. This thread has become longer than the wmii source code nearly ;) http://xkcd.com/386/ -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiativ

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Pierre Chapuis
On Wed, 4 May 2011 21:30:28 +0200, Uriel wrote: In any case, Go's own DNS resolver is still there, and for example on ARM by default it still bypasses the libc for everything. Not for long. http://code.google.com/p/go/issues/detail?id=1166 -- Pierre 'catwell' Chapuis

[dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread M1kes
hi! there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm anymore.. for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to dwm but without this main-features the dayly use of a

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Jacob Todd
There's a patch that provides that functionality. Check the wiki. On May 6, 2011 8:56 AM, wrote: > hi! > > there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm anymore.. > for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions of > frames in a tag via Alt

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread M1kes
hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager andnot just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the main reasons Iliked wmii..Von: "Jacob Todd" Gesendet: 06.05.2011 14:57:37An: "dev mail list" Betreff: Re: [dev] dwmThere's a patch that provides that functionality. Check th

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Petr Sabata
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:26:11PM +0200, m1...@web.de wrote: > style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, > sans-serif;'>hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager > andnot just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the > main reason

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
This mailinglist is plain text. I'm looking into mlmmj to let html mails bounce. Cheers, Anselm On 6 May 2011 15:26, wrote: > > hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager and > not just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the main reasons I > liked wmii.. > >

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
dillo is better than netsurf even though it uses fltk. For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera (newer also want qt iirc). Netsurf is a pile of shit. Does nobody use slow CPUs and RAM < 128Mb any more???

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
The very monolithic busybox doesn't seem to fit with the rest in my view. Couldn't you possibly use stuff from 9base for this?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:47 AM, errno wrote: > Uriel or Kurt - care to explain why you care so deeply about other peoples' > software habits? And do you really feel that it's like your duty or function > or purpose to rid the world of... transparent terminals or something? This is the sort of shi

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 9:26 AM, wrote: > > hm well that should be main-features of a dynamic-window-manager and > not just available pver a "patch"..these were some of the main reasons I > liked wmii.. Incorrect. Your desires are based on a misunderstanding of dwm. You have a 'layout' (this is

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, pancake wrote: > You may like starting to play with sdb. > > http://hg.youterm.com/sdb > > Its a nosql-like (key-value db) based on cdb, but with a decent api and > aiming to provide a memcache network protocol. Its about 1000 LOC atm. > > Contribs are welcome I d

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Al Gest
On 6 May 2011 15:13, Kurt H Maier wrote: > If stupidity goes unchallenged, it gets institutionalized, and then > you have Lennart Poettering. So why do you get so agitated when people challenge yours?

Re: [dev] Sup and dmc

2011-05-06 Thread pancake
On 05/06/11 16:28, hiro wrote: On Tue, May 3, 2011 at 8:38 PM, pancake wrote: You may like starting to play with sdb. http://hg.youterm.com/sdb Its a nosql-like (key-value db) based on cdb, but with a decent api and aiming to provide a memcache network protocol. Its about 1000 LOC atm. Cont

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Jakub Lach
May 2011 15:59 hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera (newer also > want qt iirc). Nope. While quite big and and packed with features, new Opera can use plain X, and does not force cups, gtk, qt, dbus, hal etc

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:37 AM, Al Gest wrote: > So why do you get so agitated when people challenge yours? Is this supposed to be clever, or are you trying to say something -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Because it's linked in or because it doesn't use it? On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Jakub Lach wrote: > May 2011 15:59 hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > >> For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera  (newer also >> want qt iirc). > > Nope. While quite big and and packed with

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Greg KH
On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 10:13:31AM -0400, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:47 AM, errno wrote: > > Uriel or Kurt - care to explain why you care so deeply about other peoples' > > software habits? And do you really feel that it's like your duty or function > > or purpose to rid the wo

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 10:47 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Because it's linked in or because it doesn't use it? Because most of it is compiled statically and the bits that are not are shipped in the tarball and installed in-tree. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread pancake
new opera have its own widget library. but its closed source. which sucks. On 05/06/11 16:46, Jakub Lach wrote: May 2011 15:59 hiro<23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: For everything else on x86 you can use an old static opera (newer also want qt iirc). Nope. While quite big and and packed with f

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit. About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because of C++ or are there other reasons I've overseen?

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Al Gest
On 6 May 2011 15:39, Kurt H Maier wrote: > Is this supposed to be clever, or are you trying to say something I thought the implication was quite clear, my mistake.

Re: [dev] [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
When uriel submits 6 posts in succession you can be sure there's a steaming pile of shit in that thread. xkdc links in tech arguments are like Hitler references in politics.

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: > Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit. > > About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted > to kill me and I had to change my phone number. Is this just because > of C++ or are there ot

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread Anders Andersson
On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 2:50 PM, wrote: > hi! > > there are a lot of important things from wmii which cant be found in dwm > anymore.. > for example the stacked/maximised-mode or the ability to change the positions > of > frames in a tag via Alt+Shift+[h/j/k/l]. I was thinking about to change to

[dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Christoph Lohmann
Hello comrades, as the problem arose again on IRC: Is tabbed still maintained? There have been multiple patches to add a way to make tabbed a common tool, which allows the user to specify the to be run command on execution. Why wasn't any of those patches applied? The patches were [0] and [1].

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 6 May 2011 18:29, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote: > Who is the maintainer of tabbed anyway? The developer used to be Enno Boland (gottox), but he doesn't seem to have committed anything for almost a year. > Is tabbed still maintained? Considering the inactivity I would assume n

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Someone without any knowledge of C or English will actually pick me up with a small bus in a few hours. Must be coincidence I guess. I'm asking because some of the core developers have been asking on their mailing list what other fast and light toolkit to use. You know I don't want to start a stup

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread ilf
On 05-06 17:04, hiro wrote: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted to kill me and I had to change my phone number. WTF. -- ilf Über 80 Millionen Deutsche benutzen keine Konsole. Klick dich nicht weg! -- Eine Initiative des Bundesamtes für Tastaturbenutzung signat

Re: [dev] dwm

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Don't make me look at it! On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 3:33 PM, Petr Sabata wrote: > On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 03:26:11PM +0200, m1...@web.de wrote: >> > style='font-size:12px;background-color:#FF;font-family:Verdana, Arial, >> sans-serif;'>hm well that should be main-features of a >> dynamic-windo

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 6 May 2011 19:59, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > I would happy to apply Stephen's patch, and take over as maintainer of > tabbed, if Enno and/or Anselm is happy with that. Just do it, if Enno complains, I buy him a beer ;) Cheers, Anselm

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 6 May 2011 17:13, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: >> Of course it sucks, but everything sucks less than webkit. >> >> About dillo again: last time I talked about fltk everyone here wanted >> to kill me and I had to change my phone numbe

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread pancake
Is the distance to the sun affecting in some way the mind of "people" in this mailing list? On 06/05/2011, at 20:33, Anselm R Garbe wrote: > On 6 May 2011 17:13, Kurt H Maier wrote: >> On Fri, May 6, 2011 at 11:04 AM, hiro <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: >>> Of course it sucks, but everything s

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread hiro
Spot on, it's because of the Retinol. Sun rays are coming through the planks more frequently these days :)

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Enno Boland (Gottox)
Hi! If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Unfortunally, I'm kept busy with my studies. And it would be really a shame to keep this software inactive. I'm still willing to support the development. But as it become clear over the last few month that I'm not able to keep track the list, I

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 6 May 2011 20:52, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: > If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Okay; I've applied a modified version of Stephen's patch to tip. I've kept my changes fairly minimal. I'm happy to port the drawing code to draw.c (as in dmenu) if you like, which would fix a few

Re: [dev] Tabbed unmaintained?

2011-05-06 Thread u
Hi, On Fri, May 06, 2011 at 09:52:07PM +0200, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote: > Hi! > > If you're willing to maintain tabbed, feel free. Unfortunally, I'm > kept busy with my studies. And it would be really a shame to keep this > software inactive. > > I'm still willing to support the development. B

Re: [dev] [ANN] sabotage 2011-04-30, a musl+busybox based distribution

2011-05-06 Thread Jens Staal
> For a web browser I would recommend NetSurf, not to be confused with > surf (which is a shameful disgrace for the suckless project). > Not to re-ignite the (very) volatile feelings on this list lately, but I just happened to stumble on a *nix port of abaco (http://lab-fgb.com/abaco/). Consideri

Re: [dev] [st] transparency - Was: [dwm] devilspie doesn't work

2011-05-06 Thread Ammar James
Oh god not this again. Haters gonna hate.