[dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread nico
Hello there, i changed my systems locales to de_DE.UTF-8 and now the command "uptime" is using "," instead of "." because of LC_NUMERIC now being set to German too. As a result of this the loadavg part of the default statusbar looks like "131 087 071" (no dots since commas are removed by sed). I h

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Uriel
If you set locales to retarded values (anything other than C/UTF-8/en_US), shit will break. Stop this crap, locales are an abomination. uriel On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 2:08 PM, nico wrote: > Hello there, > > i changed my systems locales to de_DE.UTF-8 and now the command "uptime" > is using "," i

Re: [dev] merp is a loneliness mitigation device written in python and Tk

2010-07-14 Thread Joseph Xu
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Uriel wrote: > The ircfs site t is up now: > > http://www.ueber.net/code/r/ircfs > > ircfs is great, and its gui is great too, and mjl is a great hacker. Thanks for linking this. > > And does the world really need yet another python irc client? And I'm > not sure

Re: [dev] merp is a loneliness mitigation device written in python and Tk

2010-07-14 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 14 Jul 2010, at 14:28, Joseph Xu wrote: On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Uriel wrote: The ircfs site t is up now: http://www.ueber.net/code/r/ircfs ircfs is great, and its gui is great too, and mjl is a great hacker. Thanks for linking this. And does the world really need yet anothe

Re: [dev] merp is a loneliness mitigation device written in python and Tk

2010-07-14 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 14 Jul 2010, at 06:30, Uriel wrote: Copy-paste with the host doesn't work by default because apparently making people's lives miserable is the main task of Inferno. As Kris pointed out, this work fine in acme-sac, and all that really is required is a single command (mounting the host's clip

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 14 Jul 2010, at 13:31, Uriel wrote: If you set locales to retarded values (anything other than C/UTF-8/en_US), shit will break. Stop this crap, locales are an abomination. *nods* The output of unix commands is just as much API as UI, so applying locale conversions to them is hairy at be

[dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Mate Nagy
Hello all, here I am advertising my own personal project. (Technically it's a complete rewrite, the old version was announced here once before.) Home page: http://repo.hu/projects/plumb/ Plumb is a program that runs multiple processes and lets you define arbitrary pipes between them (it uses lib

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Uriel
While this seems like an interesting project, I would strongly urge you to change the name, "Plumb" is already used by a way too similar project and will just cause confusion: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb uriel On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Mate Nagy wrote: > Hello al

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Mate Nagy
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:25:56PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - any suggestions for names? :) Mate

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 1:28 PM, Mate Nagy wrote: > well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) > yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - > any suggestions for names? :) I'd just leave it. The five guys who use plan9 will be able to differentiate them. -- # Ku

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Paul O'Leary McCann
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:28:16PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: > well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) > yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - > any suggestions for names? :) Ouroboros? Maybe "ouro" for short? -POLM

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread nico
Hmm, actually I never had problems setting the locale. I always have LANG and LC_MESSAGES set to en_US.UTF-8 so language is still english and the other variables are set to de_DE.UTF-8 so information many apps do rely on like paper size, currency, punctuation (the fail in my case), address for

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Samuel Baldwin
2010/7/14 Mate Nagy : > any suggestions for names? :) Get morphological; "plumber", "plumbing". -- Samuel Baldwin - logik.li

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Anselm R Garbe
On 14 July 2010 18:28, Mate Nagy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:25:56PM +0200, Uriel wrote: >> http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb > > well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) > yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - > any suggestions for n

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Josh Rickmar
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:28:16PM +0200, Mate Nagy wrote: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:25:56PM +0200, Uriel wrote: > > http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb > > well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) > yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - > a

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Ethan Grammatikidis
On 14 Jul 2010, at 18:56, nico wrote: Hmm, actually I never had problems setting the locale. I always have LANG and LC_MESSAGES set to en_US.UTF-8 so language is still english and the other variables are set to de_DE.UTF-8 so information many apps do rely on like paper size, currency, punc

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Uriel
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, nico wrote: >  Hmm, actually I never had problems setting the locale. I always have LANG > and LC_MESSAGES set to en_US.UTF-8 so language is still english and the > other variables are set to de_DE.UTF-8 so information many apps do rely on > like paper size, curren

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Troels Henriksen
Uriel writes: > On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 7:56 PM, nico wrote: >>  Hmm, actually I never had problems setting the locale. I always have LANG >> and LC_MESSAGES set to en_US.UTF-8 so language is still english and the >> other variables are set to de_DE.UTF-8 so information many apps do rely on >> l

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread David J Patrick
On 10-07-14 01:25 PM, Uriel wrote: While this seems like an interesting project, I would strongly urge you to change the name, "Plumb" is already used by a way too similar project and will just cause confusion: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb how about "piper" ? djp

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Kris Maglione
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:32:43PM +0100, Ethan Grammatikidis wrote: On 14 Jul 2010, at 18:56, nico wrote: Hmm, actually I never had problems setting the locale. I always have LANG and LC_MESSAGES set to en_US.UTF-8 so language is still english and the other variables are set to de_DE.UTF-8 s

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Kris Maglione
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 11:39:59PM +0200, Troels Henriksen wrote: Uriel writes: Again, stop trying to 'use' the PoSix locale system for anything, it is completely broken and totally antithetical to how Unix is designed to work. An option would be to use p9p's user space instead of the usual GN

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Noah Birnel
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 02:08:32PM +0200, nico wrote: > Changing the sed command to something more complex would surely work ...and not generate all this noise. noah

Re: [dev] [wmii] Locale problem with "uptime" (loadavg in status bar) and a suggestion

2010-07-14 Thread Kris Maglione
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 09:36:07PM -0700, Noah Birnel wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 02:08:32PM +0200, nico wrote: Changing the sed command to something more complex would surely work ...and not generate all this noise. Ah, but we're a very noisy list. You can't half throw a stone without g

Re: [dev] plumb 1.0

2010-07-14 Thread Stefan Mark
On 14.07.2010 19:28, Mate Nagy wrote: On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 07:25:56PM +0200, Uriel wrote: http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/plumb well darn, should've expected it from plan9 :) yeah, i'll consider the name change, it's no problem at this point - any suggestions for names? :)