On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:54 AM, Jorge Vargas wrote:
> can we please remove all the lisp/C talk from this thread. I came here
> to see what the dwm folks had to say about go and of course the
> remarkable people working on them. And I found a bunch of people that
> are not going to convince each o
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote:
> surf-0.3 is out. There are still some bugs left, but I think it's time
> to roll out a new release because there changed a plenty of things:
> - changed cookiefile to cookies.txt
> - removed urlbar and searchbar using XProps instead
>
hi mates,
reading "the cathedral and the bazaar (e.s. raymond)" i come across a nice
quote of antoine de saint-exupéry which reflects the philosopy of suck less.
i want to share this with you:
"perfection (in design) is achieved not when there is nothing more to add,
but rather when there is noth
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:59:31AM -0600, Jorge Vargas wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Enno Boland (Gottox)
> wrote:
> > surf-0.3 is out. There are still some bugs left, but I think it's time
> > to roll out a new release because there changed a plenty of things:
> > - changed cookiefil
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:47:46AM +, Aled Gest wrote:
> > C preprocessor is stupid. C macros are ugly and dangerous, except of
> > simplest cases.
>
> I totally agree that the C pre-processor sucks. It's ill thought out
> and needs replacing. However, going back to what you were saying about
That quote has been at http://quotes.cat-v.org/ for a long time (it
used to be in http://quotes.cat-v.org/programming/ but it is universal
enough that i put it with the other non-programming quotes).
This also relates to one of the most famous Strunk&White rules.
uriel
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 10
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:38:51PM -0500, David J Patrick wrote:
because I don't relish the idea of rebuilding them every time.
No. In theory you could script it, but it's not a problem in
practice because settings are usually stored in initialization
scripts.
--
Kris Maglione
Memory is li
On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:04:22AM +0100, Davide Anchisi wrote:
Hi,
I already posted a similar problem, but as it is still there and don't
know how to solve it, here it is.
When I run 'make' to compile wmii (hg2590), I get the following error:
make[2]: *** No rule to make target `/usr/local/
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 03:47:46AM +, Aled Gest wrote:
> I totally agree that the C pre-processor sucks. It's ill thought out
> and needs replacing.
Any proposals?
> However, going back to what you were saying about
> you being able to subdue Lisp's syntax with macros, any language that
> req
Quoting Kris Maglione :
On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:38:51PM -0500, David J Patrick wrote:
because I don't relish the idea of rebuilding them every time.
No. In theory you could script it, but it's not a problem in
practice because settings are usually stored in initialization
scripts.
DA
David J Patrick wrote:
> Quoting Kris Maglione :
>
>> On Thu, Nov 12, 2009 at 08:38:51PM -0500, David J Patrick wrote:
>>> because I don't relish the idea of rebuilding them every time.
>>
>> No. In theory you could script it, but it's not a problem in practice
>> because settings are usually stor
Quoting Yannic Haupenthal :
Hey,
I don't get it, what settings do you mean? Settings, how the windows are
arranged?
yes, how windows are arranged and what's running in them.
I can take me a couple of days to get everything arranged just nice,
it like the best work-environment I have ever used,
2009/11/13 Moritz Wilhelmy :
> In lisp, the macros are part of the language and don't hide anything.
> The syntax itself is lisp, with all it's parentheses.
I'm only going by what Dimitry Maluka was suggesting in his e-mail. I
don't see the point of writing complex macros to subdue a language to
m
Hello,
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 04:22:48PM +, Aled Gest wrote:
> Please don't fallaciously assume I don't know anything just because
> I'm criticizing a Language you're fanatical about.
> I agree, no language can directly accommodate all needs, but if I find
> my self wanting to write ugly macr
2009/11/13 Mate Nagy :
> please stop posting
Why?
where ?
djp
Aled Gest dixit (2009-11-13, 16:27):
> 2009/11/13 Mate Nagy :
> > please stop posting
>
> Why?
It's getting very much off topic. If you would care for a pleasant
(really) weekend with Lisp, try installing SBCL (a popular Common Lisp
implementation) on your OS and have a look at Peter Seibel's g
David J Patrick dixit (2009-11-13, 11:48):
> where ?
#suckl...@oftc
--
[a]
David J Patrick wrote:
> Quoting Yannic Haupenthal :
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> I don't get it, what settings do you mean? Settings, how the windows are
>> arranged?
> yes, how windows are arranged and what's running in them.
> I can take me a couple of days to get everything arranged just nice,
> it like th
Quoting Yannic Haupenthal :
Hm ok, i get it now ;)
I have the same problem, so i wrote in my wmiirc (in the Tagging Rules
section):
/Firefox.*/ -> 3
/Thunderbird.*/ -> 2
/Pidgin.*/ -> 4
/alsamixer.*/ -> 0
/weechat.*/ -> 4
Ok, looks like I'll have to learn tagging rules next..
And yes, i know
d...@linuxcaffe.ca wrote:
> Quoting Yannic Haupenthal :
>> Hm ok, i get it now ;)
>>
>> I have the same problem, so i wrote in my wmiirc (in the Tagging Rules
>> section):
>>
>> /Firefox.*/ -> 3
>> /Thunderbird.*/ -> 2
>> /Pidgin.*/ -> 4
>> /alsamixer.*/ -> 0
>> /weechat.*/ -> 4
> Ok, looks like I'
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote:
> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:59:31AM -0600, Jorge Vargas wrote:
>> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Enno Boland (Gottox)
>> wrote:
>> > surf-0.3 is out. There are still some bugs left, but I think it's time
>> > to roll out a new release be
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, David J Patrick wrote:
> I can take me a couple of days to get everything arranged just nice,
> it like the best work-environment I have ever used,
> and if the set-up can't be saved, then there's really no point.
Why not suspend/hibernate your machine to the swap
Confirmed. Get the latest webkit.
Peter
On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Jorge Vargas wrote:
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 3:38 AM, Moritz Wilhelmy wrote:
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 02:59:31AM -0600, Jorge Vargas wrote:
On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Enno Boland (Gottox) wrote:
surf-0.3 is out. There are s
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Peter John Hartman
wrote:
> Confirmed. Get the latest webkit.
Thanks. I'll do that.
It will be nice to point that out in the README as it simply says you
need the header files.
> Peter
>
>
> On Fri, 13 Nov 2009, Jorge Vargas wrote:
>
>> On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:52:25AM -0800, Suraj Kurapati wrote:
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, David J Patrick wrote:
I can take me a couple of days to get everything arranged just nice,
it like the best work-environment I have ever used,
and if the set-up can't be saved, then there's really
2009/11/13 Antoni Grzymala :
> It's getting very much off topic.
That's why it's marked with [OT], and that's why I moved it out of the
Go thread. I suspect the objection is more to do with people not
liking to hear criticism about things they're fond of.
> If you would care for a pleasant
> (rea
Quoting Suraj Kurapati :
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 8:15 AM, David J Patrick wrote:
I can take me a couple of days to get everything arranged just nice,
it like the best work-environment I have ever used,
and if the set-up can't be saved, then there's really no point.
Why not suspend/hibernate
> I don't see the point of writing complex macros to subdue a language to
> my taste, when I could just as easily use another language.
Why not try Lisp as another language?
Macros are not necessarily kludges (though C macros are). They are a tool
for code simplification and decomposition. Anothe
Hello,
I have noticed an annoying problem with the surf initdownload function.
When I click on a link to download a file, I get that kind of error:
CRITICAL **: void webkit_download_start(WebKitDownload*): assertion
`priv->timer == NULL' failed
And I get a 0B file in my dl directory.
[2009-11-13 20:00] Yannic Haupenthal
>
> &>/dev/null
Smells like bashism.
Use
>/dev/null 2>&1
instead.
meillo
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:43:40AM +0200, Dmitry Maluka wrote:
> Now, let's stop this discussion. Or we can continue it under the
> perspective of improving the C preprocessor, that's an interesting
> subject.
+1
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 05:25:09PM +0100, Mate Nagy wrote:
> please stop posting
Please don't. I for one find this discussion somewhat interesting, not
the least for the effort to exchange logically sound argumets. It's a
refreshing alternative to the empty and useless mud-slinging that all
too o
Aled Gest dixit (2009-11-13, 21:10):
> > If you would care for a pleasant
> > (really) weekend with Lisp, try installing SBCL (a popular Common Lisp
> > implementation) on your OS and have a look at Peter Seibel's great
> > introductory (and more) book on Common Lisp:
> >
> > http://www.gigamonkey
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:31:16PM +0100, markus schnalke wrote:
[2009-11-13 20:00] Yannic Haupenthal
&>/dev/null
Smells like bashism.
Use
>/dev/null 2>&1
instead.
It's actually a csh-ism. zsh does it, too, but I don't think
bash does. And it shouldn't work after the first &.
Quoting Yannic Haupenthal :
I have the same problem, so i wrote in my wmiirc (in the Tagging Rules
section):
/Firefox.*/ -> 3
/Thunderbird.*/ -> 2
/Pidgin.*/ -> 4
/alsamixer.*/ -> 0
/weechat.*/ -> 4
so this pre-defines where various apps will start ?
(yes, I'll read tthe documentation)
And ye
On Fri, Nov 13, 2009 at 11:15:24AM -0500, David J Patrick wrote:
I'd pay someone to do it, but there's not a chance in hell I will be
able to myself
(time and coding skills in short supply)
That can certainly be arranged, if it's that important to you.
--
Kris Maglione
It is hard enough to r
On Sat, Nov 14, 2009 at 12:47:54AM -0500, d...@linuxcaffe.ca wrote:
And yes, i know that Firefox and Thunderbird sucks ;)
and we both still use them !
I'm really amazed that anyone uses Thunderbird...
So if I may re-iterate,
pre-define where apps will open, using the tagging scripts,
and th
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