Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Roger
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 09:33:50PM +0100, hiro wrote: >> minicom & ckermit are still very useful in today's society. > >No, minicom is not useful. I never managed to remember any of their >stupid keybindings. >Of course screen is bloated in other ways, but what do you have against >picocom? Not

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread hiro
> minicom & ckermit are still very useful in today's society. No, minicom is not useful. I never managed to remember any of their stupid keybindings. Of course screen is bloated in other ways, but what do you have against picocom?

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Roger
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 02:20:22PM +0100, hiro wrote: >remove minicom > minicom & ckermit are still very useful in today's society. Although not as useful for Internet connectivity, they're still used for debugging the kernel and other low-level activities. The most recent from what I hear i

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Roger
> On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 07:52:17AM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: >On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: >> If you can avoid conflicts, that's better than expecting packagers (of each >> distro) to fix it. > >I disagree. lsx-lrzsz is clearly less useful or important than >lsx-dm

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 28 November 2011 17:08, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > Scripts have to be able to depend on command names; command line > interfaces are interfaces too. In theory, bin directories should > contain directories containing the actual commands. Plan 9 does this to some extent. It's always seemed obvi

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread clamiax
That's not a machine, it's a moka. 2011/11/28 Kurt H Maier : > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius > wrote: >> Scripts have to be able to depend on command names; command line >> interfaces are interfaces too. In theory, bin directories should >> contain directories containing th

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 12:08 PM, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > Scripts have to be able to depend on command names; command line > interfaces are interfaces too. In theory, bin directories should > contain directories containing the actual commands. Yes, I would > suggest namespaces if compatibility

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 11/28/11, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Dieter Plaetinck >> to reuse the same name. > > "Clearly" "there" "is" "no" "general" "case". "Things" "like" "this" > "should" "be" "dealt" "with" "on" "a" "case-by-case" "basis". > Scripts have to be able to depend on command

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 8:37 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > I was talking in general. > The case where an "idiot" "stole" a 3-letter string is a very specific case > where it can be justified > to reuse the same name. "Clearly" "there" "is" "no" "general" "case". "Things" "like" "this" "should"

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Mon, 28 Nov 2011 07:52:17 -0500 Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Dieter Plaetinck > wrote: > > If you can avoid conflicts, that's better than expecting packagers > > (of each distro) to fix it. > > I disagree. lsx-lrzsz is clearly less useful or important than > lsx-dm

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread hiro
remove minicom

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Mon, Nov 28, 2011 at 4:48 AM, Dieter Plaetinck wrote: > If you can avoid conflicts, that's better than expecting packagers (of each > distro) to fix it. I disagree. lsx-lrzsz is clearly less useful or important than lsx-dmenu. Just because some idiot camped out on a three-letter string does

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-28 Thread Dieter Plaetinck
On Sun, 27 Nov 2011 17:51:03 -0500 Kurt H Maier wrote: > Just call it 'stest'. If there's a collision, that's what packagers > are for. If you can avoid conflicts, that's better than expecting packagers (of each distro) to fix it.

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-27 Thread Patrick Haller
On 2011-11-27 15:32, Roger wrote: > locate "stest" |grep ^stest$ 08:53:31 Err 130 /Volumes/Users/phaller > locate ls | grep ^ls$ 08:53:34 Err 1 /Volumes/Users/phaller > locate ls | grep ^/bin/ls$ /bin/ls 08:53:43 /Volumes/Users/phaller>

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-27 Thread Roger
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 11:44:45PM +0100, Connor Lane Smith wrote: >On 27 November 2011 23:13, Roger wrote: >> Very well.  I'm considering renaming lsx to dmenu_lsx and it looks like lsx's >> only occurance is within /usr/bin/dmenu_run?  Or is the name change going to >> break anything else? > >

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-27 Thread Kurt H Maier
Just call it 'stest'. If there's a collision, that's what packagers are for. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-27 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 27 November 2011 23:13, Roger wrote: > Very well.  I'm considering renaming lsx to dmenu_lsx and it looks like lsx's > only occurance is within /usr/bin/dmenu_run?  Or is the name change going to > break anything else? Correct, it only appears in dmenu_run. On a related note, I'm considering

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-27 Thread Roger
> On Sun, Nov 27, 2011 at 02:44:23PM +, Connor Lane Smith wrote: >Hey, > >On 27 November 2011 03:45, Roger wrote: >> Over the past few weeks, I've noticed dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts >> with >> lrzsz (http://www.ohse.de/uwe/software/lrzsz.html). > >This has come up once before [1]. I

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-27 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 27 November 2011 03:45, Roger wrote: > Over the past few weeks, I've noticed dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with > lrzsz (http://www.ohse.de/uwe/software/lrzsz.html). This has come up once before [1]. I don't consider it our problem, since a distro can just rename the utility (prefi

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-26 Thread Roger
> On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 11:02:06PM -0500, Kurt H Maier wrote: >Incidentally, minicom works absolutely fine without lrzsz. minicom has a runtime depend here (on Gentoo) for lrzsz -- Roger http://rogerx.freeshell.org/

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
Incidentally, minicom works absolutely fine without lrzsz. # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-26 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Sat, Nov 26, 2011 at 10:45 PM, Roger wrote: > Over the past few weeks, I've noticed dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with > lrzsz (http://www.ohse.de/uwe/software/lrzsz.html). > > The lrzsz package is a dependency of minicom & ckermit, and has been around > for > awhile.  Therefore, has som

[dev] dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz!

2011-11-26 Thread Roger
Over the past few weeks, I've noticed dmenu's lsx binary naming conflicts with lrzsz (http://www.ohse.de/uwe/software/lrzsz.html). The lrzsz package is a dependency of minicom & ckermit, and has been around for awhile. Therefore, has something yet been suggested for renaming the lsx binary? (