On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 10:11:08PM +, Mihail Zenkov wrote:
> This changes break alt+i/alt+o/alt+p/etc in mc.
It depends of the configuration of your system and the applications you are
using.
In ther terminfo entry we don't have the km entry, but we have rmm and smm. From
my view point an app
This changes break alt+i/alt+o/alt+p/etc in mc.
Thorsten Glaser writes:
> >I think it is easier a compose key, which allows you define non ascii
> >characteres using keystrokes (compose-key ' a -> á). This is the solution
> >use in my USA keyboard and could generate spanish accents.
>
> Sure, that works too, and I use it for things like ① but C
> The nice thing about ASCII and the QWERTY layout is that it has
> all ASCII characters easily available, so you can enter *all*
> latin1-subset-of-Unicode characters with just it.
Because all the latin1 symbols begin from a0, that is the smaller value you
can generate using a meta key, because 2
Roberto E. Vargas Caballero dixit:
>It is the expected behaviour. As far as I know the first keyboard with meta
>key was space-cadet keyboard (look it in
Ah okay, thanks for the historic backup!
>meta codes you have it configured for it (or maybe your xterm has a
>different default configuration
Greetings.
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 17:49:38 +0200 Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> Gregor Best dixit:
>
> >are added to your keyboard layout. Works fine with st, and the regular
> >"Left alt sends escape"-behaviour stays the same (and works fine with
> >irssi and the like).
>
> On the BSD text console and
Gregor Best dixit:
>are added to your keyboard layout. Works fine with st, and the regular
>"Left alt sends escape"-behaviour stays the same (and works fine with
>irssi and the like).
On the BSD text console and in default XTerm, the left Alt key
acts as 8-bit enabling Meta key, so it’s *not* the
random...@fastmail.us dixit:
>If this were an intended feature why would it elevate latin-1 over other
>unicode characters? This only proves my point.
It doesn’t – it’s just that latin1 is the first 256 chars of Unicode
by accident (or design, don’t know, ask the Unicode people).
And this Meta/8
> > No, it is the intended behaviour.
> > http://fsinfo.noone.org/~abe/typing-8bit.html
>
> The fact that someone discovered it, _thought_ it was intended, and
> showed other people how to do it does not mean that it actually was
> intended.
It is the expected behaviour. As far as I know the first
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 02:30:29PM +, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> [...]
> XTerm handles that transparently: when in UTF-8 mode, Meta-d
> is still CHR$(ASC("d")+128) = "ä", just U+00E4 instead of a
> raw '\xE4' octet.
>
> This is *extremely* useful – especially as it leads people
> away from natio
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 10:30, Thorsten Glaser wrote:
> random...@fastmail.us dixit:
>
> >Wait a minute... what exactly do you _expect_ meta to do? Using (for
> >example) meta-a to type 0xE1 "a with acute" is _not_, in fact, the
> >expected or intended behavior; it is a bug. And I don't think it
random...@fastmail.us dixit:
>Wait a minute... what exactly do you _expect_ meta to do? Using (for
>example) meta-a to type 0xE1 "a with acute" is _not_, in fact, the
>expected or intended behavior; it is a bug. And I don't think it will
No, it is the intended behaviour.
http://fsinfo.noone.org/~
Using the latest from git and tput smm everything works fine. Thank you
very much.
That got me wondering though. Since there exists such a terminfo
capability, why do apps that except 8bit-as-meta, don't use them?
On 23 April 2013 16:23, Christoph Lohmann <2...@r-36.net> wrote:
> Greetings.
>
>
Greetings.
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 15:23:59 +0200 "Roberto E. Vargas Caballero"
wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:50:32AM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> The unique problem is utf8 encoding will put the 8 bit to 1 in some
> characters, so it is not very clear for me like applications can differe
No I mean when binding a key to meta, it doesn't work. I have and
for example to move lines up and down and well, it doesn't work when
sending an escape sequence as meta.
On 23 April 2013 15:23, wrote:
> **
> On Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 7:51, Otto Modinos wrote:
>
> It means first of all vim. I
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 08:23:22AM -0400, random...@fastmail.us wrote:
> Huh? Vim doesn't have any keybindings that use meta.
You can bind them.
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013, at 7:51, Otto Modinos wrote:
It means first of all vim. I have also tried mocp, and that didn't work
either. What apps are you using that work?
Huh? Vim doesn't have any keybindings that use meta.
Wait a minute... what exactly do you _expect_ meta to do? Using (for
exam
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 02:51:58PM +0300, Otto Modinos wrote:
>It means first of all vim. I have also tried mocp, and that didn't work
>either. What apps are you using that work?
All the applications which admit a meta-key should accept 8bit, that is the
real meaning of meta. Send ESC ins
On Tue, Apr 23, 2013 at 10:50:32AM +0200, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
> Greetings.
>
> On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:50:32 +0200 Otto Modinos wrote:
> > Howdy Comrades.
> > I'm new to this mailing list.
> > Just found st couple of days back and really loved it. It lacked however
> > the ability to send Meta
It means first of all vim. I have also tried mocp, and that didn't work
either. What apps are you using that work?
On 23 April 2013 14:46, Random832 wrote:
> On 04/23/2013 04:50 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
>
>> I am considering making this the default behaviour of st. Are there any
>> argumen
On 04/23/2013 04:50 AM, Christoph Lohmann wrote:
I am considering making this the default behaviour of st. Are there any
arguments against it?
I'm actually confused by what he means by "most of the apps I tried
didn't recognize the escape sequence", because every app I've ever used
recognizes
Greetings.
On Tue, 23 Apr 2013 10:50:32 +0200 Otto Modinos wrote:
> Howdy Comrades.
> I'm new to this mailing list.
> Just found st couple of days back and really loved it. It lacked however
> the ability to send Meta as the 8th bit, the way xterm does. I needed this
> because most of the apps I
On Mon, Apr 22, 2013 at 11:38 AM, Otto Modinos wrote:
> Hope you can merge it in st mainline, or at least added in as a patch in the
> site.
Don't know about merging into mainline (not the maintainer) but as far
as publishing the patch on the site you can do it yourself:
http://suckless.org/wiki
Howdy Comrades.
I'm new to this mailing list.
Just found st couple of days back and really loved it. It lacked however
the ability to send Meta as the 8th bit, the way xterm does. I needed this
because most of the apps I tried didn't recognize the escape sequence st
was using. So this little patch
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