Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Roberto E. Vargas Caballero
> Once there was one that was trying to brute force my ssh, but, it was > sent very fast to blacklist. > I looked up a bit, and it was a known (found on web list of banned > ip's) hackers based on Russia. Only once?, You must be a lucky man, because the usual is several attacks by each day ... R

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 22:54, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > Chris Down said: > > On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > > Irony? Huh? pgpfsdKrYPUaF.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [dev] IRC on Freenode

2013-11-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Chris Down dixit: >Gmail's web interface breaks nested quoting in plain text, unless they >fixed it recently. It pushes lines off the edge, and causes the quoting Oh ouch. I’ve not used it myself. >to screw up, so the whole thing is just better avoided. Indeed, this makes it even worse. Dmitr

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Thorsten Glaser said: > (The frontend needs not be graphical, of course.) Why? -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Thorsten Glaser said: > it just involves a little bit of effort. But not much more, since one > needs to trim the quote in other MUAs as well. Such amount of effort stopped me from using mobile Gmail app - I now get to PC in order to answer mail. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkoff

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Chris Down said: > On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: Irony? > Surely the answer to that is to not use Gmail's webmail client, then? It isn't always an option. You might be tied to using Gmail UI for some reason, which makes using other clients impractical. -- Dmitrij D. Czarkof

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
ludovic samek dixit: >encrypted actually? Do you know some dev lists where they use >encryption? I’m carrying the Secure List Server patch for mailman on the installations we use at work. (Reminds me to get the time to update and polish this and upload to Debian proper…) http://non-gnu.uvt.nl/ma

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 15:18, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > Either that, or hand-trim the fullquote before adding one’s own text. > People even do that in Outlook Expreß when they need to but know how > to properly quote… it just involves a little bit of effort. But not > much more, since one needs to trim the q

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Thorsten Glaser
Chris Down dixit: >On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: >> Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a >> sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much sense. Meh, until it’s beaten into peoples’ brains… ;-) >Surely the answer to that is to not u

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 12:03, patrick295767 patrick295767 wrote: > well, a lot of large corporate companies offer a webmail portal? > Accenture for instance. > > IT do not like it so much, but, it is still not too bad in terms of security. You are slowly demonstrating that you do not actually read the e-m

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread patrick295767 patrick295767
well, a lot of large corporate companies offer a webmail portal? Accenture for instance. IT do not like it so much, but, it is still not too bad in terms of security. Microsoft: http://c15048056.r56.cf2.rackcdn.com/2.png No security is perfect :) 2013/11/2 Chris Down : > On 2013-11-02 11:33,

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 11:33, koneu wrote: > I don't get people who use it either. > However I've been told it's quite useful on public computers. I'm amazed that people consider it wise to access their e-mail on public computers, to be honest. You wouldn't access online banking on a public computer (I hop

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread koneu
Chris Down wrote: >On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: >> Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a >> sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much >sense. >> May be you just move the links to your signature? > >Surely the answer to that is to

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 11:27, patrick295767 wrote: > But you can always encrypt the email. > Btw, why aren't we posting (emailing to the list) in plain text and > encrypted actually? Do you know some dev lists where they use > encryption? > - I would be interesting if there was. - Yes, this would be a first

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread patrick295767
On Sat, Nov 2, 2013 at 4:10 AM, Thorsten Glaser wrote: > patrick295767 patrick295767 dixit: > >>Security is not perfect. A bouncer is fine, or helps. > > You just want to flame, I’d guess. No, no. I am kinda checking regularly my machines, and I avoid as much as possible to leave open services. M

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Chris Down
On 2013-11-02 11:13, Dmitrij D. Czarkoff wrote: > Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a > sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much sense. > May be you just move the links to your signature? Surely the answer to that is to not use Gmail's webmail cl

Re: [dev] IRC on Free node

2013-11-02 Thread Dmitrij D. Czarkoff
Thorsten Glaser said: > And neither the one nor the other Googlemail user know how to > properly write eMails. I sense a theme there. Gmail's webmail doesn't allow to tune quoting & attribution in a sensible manner, so repeating this every time doesn't make much sense. May be you just move the lin