Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 7:58 PM, Bryan Bennett wrote: > Kurt - I think you need to rethink your definition of "Troll". He simply > asked a question. There are only two reasons to ask a question that open-ended and useless. 1) You are an idiot, who thinks that you can compare any two objects with

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 10 June 2011 22:19, Bryan Bennett wrote: > WMFS simply feels like DWM++ You mean it increments dwm and takes the lower value? On 11 June 2011 00:58, Bryan Bennett wrote: > Kurt - I think you need to rethink your definition of "Troll". He simply > asked a question. Though the question was pr

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Bryan Bennett
Kurt - I think you need to rethink your definition of "Troll". He simply asked a question. Regardless of whether you agree with the idea of the window manager in question, he didn't make some fallacious statement regarding DWM or any other suckless tools - he's simply asking for opinions. There is

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 9 June 2011 23:24, pancake wrote: > support for string mode format in chmod. Now you can do stuff like chmod +x > .. g-rwx , ... I got round to looking at this. I had to change some of it to make it POSIX and so on, but I like the approach (which basically avoids the POSIX's BNF grammar (seri

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
Why are you people falling for this troll? WMFS has nothing to do with dwm, it's just another tiling static window manager. From its website: " * A Tag is actually a workspace. " Witthout dwm's tagging concept, there is nothing special here. You can identify such window managers by their EWMH

Re: [dev] WMII: Issue using wmii-hg and the ruby configuration wmiirc

2011-06-10 Thread David Kowis
On 06/10/2011 03:23 PM, Suraj N. Kurapati wrote: > On Fri 10 Jun 2011 03:00:56 PM PDT, David Kowis wrote: >> Using the default "out of the box" as it were ruby-based >> configuration off of latest devel wmii > > The ruby wmiirc that ships with wmii is grossly out of date. Please > obtain the newe

Re: [dev] [dwm] Multiple tag sets

2011-06-10 Thread Bryan Bennett
So base your custom DWM on the earlier versions that didn't support multiple monitors. No trolling, just a suggestion.

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Bryan Bennett
WMFS simply feels like DWM++, which is an unpopular concept in these parts I honestly liked it quite a bit. It takes DWM's window management concepts and tacks on some convenience features that are nice to have, but not essential. It DOES have a systray, but it was useless for me (as I'm used to D

Re: [dev] WMII: Issue using wmii-hg and the ruby configuration wmiirc

2011-06-10 Thread Suraj N. Kurapati
On Fri 10 Jun 2011 03:00:56 PM PDT, David Kowis wrote: > Using the default "out of the box" as it were ruby-based > configuration off of latest devel wmii The ruby wmiirc that ships with wmii is grossly out of date. Please obtain the newest version from GitHub instead: https://github.com/sunaku/w

Re: [dev] [dwm] Multiple tag sets

2011-06-10 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
On 6/10/11, pancake wrote: > Nobody ever tried xi2. Which is what you need to do this. XI2 seems like a generally useful thing. So I the XInput driver should create a master device for each touch, and dwm should take note as to what tags are currently being pressed. Am I overcomplicating my UI? No

[dev] WMII: Issue using wmii-hg and the ruby configuration wmiirc

2011-06-10 Thread David Kowis
Using the default "out of the box" as it were ruby-based configuration off of latest devel wmii $ wmii -v wmii-hg2788+, ©2010 Kris Maglione results in this: http://www.pastie.org/2049174 I was hoping that I could be pointed in the right direction to get things working again. I updated from 3.9.

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Hootiegibbon
Seem to be more and more tiling capable window managers out there, the best though from experience are (in no particular order) wmii Euclid-wm dwm Jase On 10 Jun 2011 20:13, "hiro" <23h...@googlemail.com> wrote: I haven't heard about it yet. I don't like it's name though.

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread hiro
I haven't heard about it yet. I don't like it's name though.

Re: [dev] [dwm] Multiple tag sets

2011-06-10 Thread pancake
Nobody ever tried xi2. Which is what you need to do this. I wrote a simple patch to make dwm a bit more touchscreen friendly.. But it was a hack and i only recommend to rrad it to get ideas On 10/06/2011, at 16:48, Bjartur Thorlacius wrote: > I'm thinking of using dwm for an embedded touchscree

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Le Tian
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Le Tian wrote: > > wasn't even thinking about trolling, I'm trying to ask people, who I > think > > to be more experienced, than I am. That's it. > > That's precisely the sort of thing a troll would say. >

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Le Tian wrote: > wasn't even thinking about trolling, I'm trying to ask people, who I think > to be more experienced, than I am. That's it. That's precisely the sort of thing a troll would say. -- # Kurt H Maier

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Le Tian
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 11:03 AM, Kurt H Maier wrote: > On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Le Tian wrote: > > What do you think about WMFS, and how it is better or worse than dwm? > > This is a very amateurish attempt at trolling. Please check the > mailing list archives for examples of how you

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Jacob Todd
It sucks, it includes a systray, you control it with vi-like keys, which is as fast riding a snail cross country, and it's huge in terms of sloc. On Jun 10, 2011 10:58 AM, "Le Tian" wrote:

Re: [dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Kurt H Maier
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 10:58 AM, Le Tian wrote: > What do you think about WMFS, and how it is better or worse than dwm? This is a very amateurish attempt at trolling. Please check the mailing list archives for examples of how you can improve. -- # Kurt H Maier

[dev] revolution

2011-06-10 Thread Le Tian
What do you think about WMFS, and how it is better or worse than dwm? -- Tian

[dev] [dwm] Multiple tag sets

2011-06-10 Thread Bjartur Thorlacius
I'm thinking of using dwm for an embedded touchscreen ticket-seller. Users need to be able to select multiple tags simultaneously (e.g. by holding down all tags they wish to select, no need for alt-tab switch of views). Furthermore, they should be able to match windows using multiple criteria: I ne

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Rob
On 10 June 2011 08:54, Rafa Garcia Gallego wrote: > The lack of Shift+Control modifier is a serious bummer indeed. It looks like it's been decided that X is the way to go, but before any code is implemented, I thought I'd just stick my oar in - what if we were to keep to the terminal and open a c

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Troels Henriksen
Paul Onyschuk writes: > It has been discussed before[1]. With Sam regexps, own window manager > can be handy. Some quotes: > > Russ Cox swtch.com> wrote: > >> >> The die hard sam users would disagree vehemently with you. >> The nice thing about sam is that it's one window, not many, >> making it

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 10 June 2011 12:19, Paul Onyschuk wrote: > Is vertical side by side layout stupid idea? Maybe not. We've gone from > small screens to high resolution widescreen monitors. Moreover 2 or > 3-screens setup isn't fancy anymore. Using so much vertical space > effectively for text editing is a topic

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread Rob
On 10 June 2011 06:55, pancake wrote: > On 10/06/2011, at 4:26, Connor Lane Smith wrote: >> No, there's no bug here; size is allocated and memset on the next line. > > Your gcc sucks. Mine reports the error here. Size is only allocated if the > or condition applies which is not something to alway

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread Rob
On 10 June 2011 14:23, Rob wrote: > Anyway, I had another pop this morning and here's what I got. Also, forgot to mention, you'll need to alter true.c, false.c and tty.c so their main conforms, otherwise it won't compile.

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread Rob
On 10 June 2011 04:30, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > The only way this is going to happen is if someone writes a script > which does it automatically, by going through each utility prefixing > their main() functions (in a separate build directory), generating a > common main() which dispatches to the

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
On 10 June 2011 08:54, Rafa Garcia Gallego wrote: > What do you mean by that? Is there an experimental way to view, > insert, change, delete text? I've read below about the multiple views > and all, is that one of the research-y ideas? Just curious. Well, you can't exactly go crazy, but there are

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Paul Onyschuk
Yoshi Rokuko rokuko.net> wrote: > > if an application needs more windows these windows should be managed > by the window manager - usually starting multiple instances is > enough, so imho using something like :sp in vim from inside X is > stupid. > > fullscreen is for me not the point in [2] yo

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread pancake
On 06/10/11 14:25, Connor Lane Smith wrote: Hey, On 10 June 2011 06:55, pancake wrote: Your gcc sucks. Mine reports the error here. Size is only allocated if the or condition applies which is not something to always happen opening the doors to use an uninitialized pointer. I wasn't talking ab

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread Connor Lane Smith
Hey, On 10 June 2011 06:55, pancake wrote: > Your gcc sucks. Mine reports the error here. Size is only allocated if the > or condition applies which is not something to always happen opening the > doors to use an uninitialized pointer. I wasn't talking about GCC. Step through the logic in your h

[dev] [tabbed] Add window ID to environment

2011-06-10 Thread Gregor Best
Hi people, the attached patch lets tabbed expose its window ID to its children via the env var TABBED_WIN. This allows doing things like the following from inside tabbed: st -t "Foo" -w $TABBED_WIN & st -t "Bar" -w $TABBED_WIN thus easing the use of different tab titles. -- $l="\n"

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Yoshi Rokuko
+--- Paul Onyschuk ---+ > [...] > I love the text editor Sam. There is one problem with it - it's stack > based WM over stack based WM. How to resolve this issue? Just look at > so called distraction-free editors like FocusWriter[2] - using full > screen is a feature. >

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Paul Onyschuk
After seeing words "very experimental", I'm willing to share some ideas, maybe too controversial otherwise for suckless folk ;) First of all, check Recdit[1] editor. It's Mac OS X app, but nice paper and short video is available. It has some unique features. Is vertical side by side layout stupid

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Aurélien Aptel
On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 9:54 AM, Rafa Garcia Gallego wrote: > I like the idea of structural regex, but I haven't used sam much. The > match buffer sounds a bit emacs-y for my taste. I doubt emacs has > something exactly like that; then again I am more of a vi(m) guy so > emacs is really a myth for

Re: [dev] Re: sbase

2011-06-10 Thread Szabolcs Nagy
* Anthony J. Bentley [2011-06-09 19:22:47 -0600]: > Don???t we have /dev/stdin for that anyway? > no /dev/stdin, /dev/fd/0, /proc/self/fd/0 are non standard and not always available (even on linux systems)

Re: [dev] Experimental editor

2011-06-10 Thread Rafa Garcia Gallego
Hi On Fri, Jun 10, 2011 at 12:05 AM, Connor Lane Smith wrote: > > Hey all, > > I'd like to include those of you who aren't in IRC in the discussion > we're having wrt writing a new text editor. We do already have Sandy > of course, and I think Rafa is doing a great job, but there are a > couple o