Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2010/1/27 David Tweed : > On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Uriel wrote: >> Why the fucking hell should the fucking build tool know shit about the >> OS it is running on?!?!?! >> >> If you need to do OS guessing, that is a clear sign that you are doing >> things *wrong* 99% of the time. > > [In wha

Re: [dev] gsoc 2010

2010-01-26 Thread Anselm R Garbe
Hi Markus, 2010/1/25 markus schnalke : > Are there plans to apply for Google Summer of Code, this year? Yes. We will apply again. This time we need to focus the scope a bit more, the feedback from Google regarding last application was basically that they didn't see a strong focus into a particula

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread David Tweed
On Wed, Jan 27, 2010 at 6:25 AM, Uriel wrote: > Why the fucking hell should the fucking build tool know shit about the > OS it is running on?!?!?! > > If you need to do OS guessing, that is a clear sign that you are doing > things *wrong* 99% of the time. [In what follows by "OS" I mean kernel pl

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Uriel
On Tue, Jan 26, 2010 at 8:10 AM, Daniel Bainton wrote: > 2010/1/25 pancake : >> I have been using make(1) and acr(1) for most of my projects for a long while > > acr seems to have the OS guessing quite bad. It checks if uname is the > GNU version and then adds -gnu to the system type if it is? Wha

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Uriel
On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 4:40 PM, pancake wrote: > PD: Is there any tutorial or good documentation about how to use mk? http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/mk http://doc.cat-v.org/plan_9/4th_edition/papers/mkfiles > because > 'make' is > nice, but its too shell dependend and this force

Re: [dev] gsoc 2010

2010-01-26 Thread Uriel
I sure hope so. uriel On Mon, Jan 25, 2010 at 6:26 PM, markus schnalke wrote: > Are there plans to apply for Google Summer of Code, this year? > > I ask because I want to apply as student. > > > meillo > >

Re: [dev] dwm and torbutton weirdness

2010-01-26 Thread twfb
On 16:58 Tue 26 Jan, ilf wrote: > Using dwm 5.7.2 and Torbutton 1.2.4 in Firefox 3.5.7, I get the > following weird behavior when enabling Tor usage: > > Before: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/dwm_torbutton_1.png > After: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/dwm_torbutton_2.png > > See the rig

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Ryan R
I switched the development process over to gentoo where I work and it's been awesome to say the least.

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread David Tweed
Thanks to everyone for all the help. I'm looking more at the development process than the distribution process which means different issues are most important for me. The big issue I'm looking at is that I've got lots of programs which can be visualised as having "conventional" dependencies with t

[dev] dwm and torbutton weirdness

2010-01-26 Thread ilf
Using dwm 5.7.2 and Torbutton 1.2.4 in Firefox 3.5.7, I get the following weird behavior when enabling Tor usage: Before: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/dwm_torbutton_1.png After: http://vorratsdatenspeicher.ath.cx/dwm_torbutton_2.png See the right and bottom. Any idea what causes this and h

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread pancake
I just wanted to say that few months ago I started to write a build system in C, aiming to fix all those issues, but it's quite in early stage, only works for simple projects. I named it 'cake', as for cooking :) You will find the source here: hg clone http://hg.youterm.com/cake Instead of

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2010/1/26 pancake : > Anselm R Garbe wrote: >> >> What about the good old way of providing one master makefile for each >> platform instead of these scripts that are doomed to fail anyways >> sooner or later? >> >> > > It's not only about platform, for small projects i find single makefiles ok, > b

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread pancake
Anselm R Garbe wrote: What about the good old way of providing one master makefile for each platform instead of these scripts that are doomed to fail anyways sooner or later? It's not only about platform, for small projects i find single makefiles ok, but for big ones you need to separate th

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Anselm R Garbe
2010/1/26 pancake : > On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Daniel Bainton wrote: > >> 2010/1/25 pancake : >>> >>> I have been using make(1) and acr(1) for most of my projects for a long >>> while >> >> acr seems to have the OS guessing quite bad. It checks if uname is the >> GNU version and then adds -gnu

Re: [dev] [OFFTOPIC] Recommended meta-build system

2010-01-26 Thread Daniel Bainton
2010/1/26 pancake : > > > On Jan 26, 2010, at 8:10 AM, Daniel Bainton wrote: > >> 2010/1/25 pancake : >>> >>> I have been using make(1) and acr(1) for most of my projects for a long >>> while >> >> acr seems to have the OS guessing quite bad. It checks if uname is the >> GNU version and then adds