Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-07-12 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 02:23:35PM +0200, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 02:03:18PM +0100, Philip Martin wrote: > > Stefan Sperling writes: > > > > > Maybe we should tell people that they should only use update if > > > they have local mods, and perform a checkout otherwise. > >

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-28 Thread Philip Martin
Stefan Sperling writes: > When I upgraded a 1.6.x working copy of 2GB size, it took more than one hour. > I eventually just aborted the upgrade. A checkout completes within > a couple of minutes. > > The repository is remote and the bottleneck should be my 16MB/s downstream > link (the server is

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-28 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 02:03:18PM +0100, Philip Martin wrote: > Stefan Sperling writes: > > > Maybe we should tell people that they should only use update if > > they have local mods, and perform a checkout otherwise. > > This rule of thumb is probably going to yield the best overall results. >

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Philip Martin
Stefan Sperling writes: > Maybe we should tell people that they should only use update if > they have local mods, and perform a checkout otherwise. > This rule of thumb is probably going to yield the best overall results. I think we should recomend checkout simply because the code is better test

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 01:42:43PM +0100, Philip Martin wrote: > It's difficult to get the wording right because we don't know enough > about the relative performance. Should we be indicating any preference > for one over the other? Using "might" can be interpreted as upgrade > being preferred an

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Philip Martin
Stefan Sperling writes: > OK. > > What about a note that says that upgrade *might* be slower than checkout? > > Index: subversion/svn/main.c > === > --- subversion/svn/main.c (revision 1140083) > +++ subversion/svn/main.c (wo

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 12:52:37PM +0100, Philip Martin wrote: > Stefan Sperling writes: > > >> I disagree. > >> > >> Upgrade requires more disk IO but requires significantly less network IO > >> and uses marginally less CPU. Checkout is likely to be faster when disk > >> IO is the limiting fac

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Philip Martin
Stefan Sperling writes: >> I disagree. >> >> Upgrade requires more disk IO but requires significantly less network IO >> and uses marginally less CPU. Checkout is likely to be faster when disk >> IO is the limiting factor, but if network IO is the limiting factor then >> checkout could be signi

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Mon, Jun 27, 2011 at 11:34:13AM +0100, Philip Martin wrote: > s...@apache.org writes: > > > Author: stsp > > Date: Sun Jun 26 12:28:28 2011 > > New Revision: 1139766 > > > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1139766&view=rev > > Log: > > * subversion/svn/main.c > > (svn_cl__cmd_table): In

Re: svn commit: r1139766 - /subversion/trunk/subversion/svn/main.c

2011-06-27 Thread Philip Martin
s...@apache.org writes: > Author: stsp > Date: Sun Jun 26 12:28:28 2011 > New Revision: 1139766 > > URL: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc?rev=1139766&view=rev > Log: > * subversion/svn/main.c > (svn_cl__cmd_table): In the help text for 'svn upgrade', explain that >the upgrade preserves local mod