Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-07-01 Thread C. Michael Pilato
On 07/01/2011 09:56 AM, Philip Martin wrote: > I plan to apply the second patch in the issue, it restores the 1.6 > libtool detection and fixes the the --with-experimental-libtool problem. There's a Nike slogan which comes to mind right about now... -- C. Michael Pilato CollabNet <> www.col

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-07-01 Thread Philip Martin
I plan to apply the second patch in the issue, it restores the 1.6 libtool detection and fixes the the --with-experimental-libtool problem. The code did require maintenance in the past, and may require maintenance in the future, but it hasn't required any maintenance in the last three years on the

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-29 Thread Philip Martin
Justin Erenkrantz writes: > On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Philip Martin > wrote: >> The code in question is present on the 1.6 branch and we have been >> releasing it periodically without much problem.  The most recent change >> I can identify appears to be r870104 dated 2008-03-24. > > At th

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-29 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Wed, Jun 29, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Philip Martin wrote: > The code in question is present on the 1.6 branch and we have been > releasing it periodically without much problem.  The most recent change > I can identify appears to be r870104 dated 2008-03-24. At the time (not verified on subsequent rel

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-29 Thread Philip Martin
Justin Erenkrantz writes: > I don't expect that the situation has improved since I tossed > it...but, if others want to maintain it, go for it. But, expect that > you're going to be spending lots of time (as I did) trying to get > every edge case of a platform to work. The code in question is p

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-28 Thread Justin Erenkrantz
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 4:43 PM, Greg Stein wrote: > As I recall, the problem is that we have to continually tweak things. > Over and over and over. Edge cases never stop with libtool. It creates > a continual maintenance nightmare. Right. libtool constantly requires lots of handholding to get i

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-28 Thread Philip Martin
Philip Martin writes: > Greg Stein writes: > >> What *does* seem to be undisputed is that OpenSUSE has a broken >> libtool installation that doesn't handle C++. Why are we working >> around that? > > Subversion requires C++ support and APR doesn't. C++ support in libtool > is optional. Can Sub

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-28 Thread Philip Martin
Greg Stein writes: > What *does* seem to be undisputed is that OpenSUSE has a broken > libtool installation that doesn't handle C++. Why are we working > around that? Subversion requires C++ support and APR doesn't. C++ support in libtool is optional. Can Subversion expect APR's libtool to sup

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-28 Thread Greg Stein
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:48, Stefan Sperling wrote: > On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:22:09AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: >> Issue #3930 [1] ("build system assumes that APR libtool supports C++") is >> marked as a 1.7.0 blocker, but is currently being held up by difference of >> opinions about th

Re: Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-28 Thread Stefan Sperling
On Tue, Jun 28, 2011 at 10:22:09AM -0400, C. Michael Pilato wrote: > Issue #3930 [1] ("build system assumes that APR libtool supports C++") is > marked as a 1.7.0 blocker, but is currently being held up by difference of > opinions about the correct path forward. The complaint involves some code >

Issue 3930 - Subversion, libtool, APR, and all the junk in-between

2011-06-28 Thread C. Michael Pilato
Issue #3930 [1] ("build system assumes that APR libtool supports C++") is marked as a 1.7.0 blocker, but is currently being held up by difference of opinions about the correct path forward. The complaint involves some code that was removed from the codebase some time ago. We have no record as to