On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:30 AM Julian Foad wrote:
> Stefan Sperling wrote:
> > We also need people to test and sign the releases across OS platforms.
> > At a minimum there will be 1.14.0-rc1 and 1.14.0 releases to test and
> sign.
>
> I expect to be able to test and sign on Linux.
Looks like
> On Mar 14, 2020, at 12:06 PM, Stefan Sperling wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 02:16:51PM +, Julian Foad wrote:
>> Mark Phippard wrote:
>>> Anyway, I am just trying to suggest things to help us get unstuck.
>>
>> Agreed. Stefan, other readers may read it differently, but I found Mark's
Stefan Sperling wrote on Sat, 14 Mar 2020 16:59 +0100:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 03:47:44PM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> > What is it that I'm supposed to share my assessment of? My involvement
> > in shelving consisted of little more than conducting two commit
> > reviews.
>
> Whether you're
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 02:16:51PM +, Julian Foad wrote:
> Mark Phippard wrote:
> > Anyway, I am just trying to suggest things to help us get unstuck.
>
> Agreed. Stefan, other readers may read it differently, but I found Mark's
> input here to be useful and on-topic, as well as bluntly direc
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 03:47:44PM +, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
> What is it that I'm supposed to share my assessment of? My involvement
> in shelving consisted of little more than conducting two commit
> reviews.
Whether you're OK with that code you've reviewed to be shipped as it is.
It sounds l
> On Mar 14, 2020, at 11:42 AM, Daniel Shahaf wrote:
>
> Stefan Sperling wrote on Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:00 +0100:
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 09:25:21AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
>>> OK, then let's just move past it and hope it gets fixed in APR? If no one
>>> raises their hand saying they are w
Stefan Sperling wrote on Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:26 +0100:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:12:41AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> > I do not fully understand where we are at on shelving. I believe ideas were
> > proposed to make it a compile time feature that would be off by default or
> > something. I am
Stefan Sperling wrote on Sat, 14 Mar 2020 15:00 +0100:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 09:25:21AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> > OK, then let's just move past it and hope it gets fixed in APR? If no one
> > raises their hand saying they are working on a fix, you should proceed as if
> > we are never goi
Julian Foad wrote on Sat, 14 Mar 2020 14:28 +:
> Thank you Nathan and Daniel for working on the 'shelving' part of the
> release notes.
>
> Please ping me when you've done what you can, and I'll review and/or fix
> as best I can.
>
> Thanks,
> - Julian
You're welcome. I don't have any pen
> On Mar 14, 2020, at 10:32 AM, James McCoy wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 03:26:48PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote:
>>> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:12:41AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
>>> My only advice would be to reach a point where we accept no one is going to
>>> step up and fix this on W
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:32:04AM -0400, James McCoy wrote:
> I'm working on it now. I should be able to have something that avoids
> regressions on Windows this weekend.
>
> Cheers,
> --
> James
> GPG Key: 4096R/91BF BF4D 6956 BD5D F7B7 2D23 DFE6 91AE 331B A3DB
Great news. Thank you James!
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 03:26:48PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:12:41AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> > My only advice would be to reach a point where we accept no one is going to
> > step up and fix this on Windows and then decide accordingly. If we can fix
> > it
>
Stefan Sperling wrote:
We also need people to test and sign the releases across OS platforms.
At a minimum there will be 1.14.0-rc1 and 1.14.0 releases to test and sign.
I expect to be able to test and sign on Linux.
- Julian
Thank you Nathan and Daniel for working on the 'shelving' part of the
release notes.
Please ping me when you've done what you can, and I'll review and/or fix
as best I can.
Thanks,
- Julian
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 10:12:41AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> I do not fully understand where we are at on shelving. I believe ideas were
> proposed to make it a compile time feature that would be off by default or
> something. I am fine with that. You raised it as being a blocker still so I
> a
Mark Phippard wrote:
Stefan Sperling wrote:
1. The 'decouple-shelving-cli' branch
2. The editor path fixes which don't yet work on Windows.
Since nobody has responded: Should I just make a decision by myself?
The 'decouple-shelving-cli' branch is merged and working: the
experimental shelvi
>
> Nobody is trying to hold up anything. The common goal is to get 1.14
> shipped ASAP. At least I haven't seen anyone saying otherwise.
I know that no one is actively trying to hold up the release, on the contrary
we are trying to get it wrapped. I am speaking to the extent these items are
st
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 09:25:21AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote:
> > On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 08:03:28AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> > I don't think asking "why are we even doing this" is helpful.
>
> That is pretty unfair. I could go back
> On Mar 14, 2020, at 8:51 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote:
>
> On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 08:03:28AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> Personally, I do not care at all about experimental features and shelving. I
>> would favor ripping it all out and let it come back in a future release if
>> someone wants
On Sat, Mar 14, 2020 at 08:03:28AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> Personally, I do not care at all about experimental features and shelving. I
> would favor ripping it all out and let it come back in a future release if
> someone wants to finish and turn it into a feature that we are willing to
> s
> On Mar 14, 2020, at 7:47 AM, Stefan Sperling wrote:
>
> On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:23:49PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote:
>> As previously discussed, I would like to create the 1.14.x branch
>> soon in order to begin the release process for 1.14.0.
>>
>> There are two changes being worked on w
On Tue, Mar 10, 2020 at 12:23:49PM +0100, Stefan Sperling wrote:
> As previously discussed, I would like to create the 1.14.x branch
> soon in order to begin the release process for 1.14.0.
>
> There are two changes being worked on which look important and
> which, I believe, could only be introdu
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