Re: Question about sub-projects and project merging

2015-07-13 Thread Jay Kreps
Hey Mike, Thanks for sharing, it is helpful to hear the experience that leads to these recommendations. -Jay On Mon, Jul 13, 2015 at 11:01 AM, Mike Kienenberger wrote: > A subproject is one of many projects that fall under the same umbrella > project management committee (PMC). It doesn't ha

Re: Question about sub-projects and project merging

2015-07-13 Thread Mike Kienenberger
A subproject is one of many projects that fall under the same umbrella project management committee (PMC). It doesn't have to be a separate repo, but it generally has a separate community or a subset of the full community. Speaking as a long-time PMC member for MyFaces, our problem with subproje

Re: Question about sub-projects and project merging

2015-07-13 Thread Greg Stein
Hi Jay, Looking at your question, I see the Apache Samza and Apache Kafka *communities* have little overlap(*). The Board looks at communities, and their overlap or lack thereof. Smushing two communities under one TLP is what we have historically called an "umbrella" TLP, and discourage. Communiti

Re: Question about sub-projects and project merging

2015-07-12 Thread Hervé Boutemy
some remarks on "what a sub-project is?" taken from my experience working on this exact topic for https://projects.apache.org/ first: see facts at https://projects.apache.org/projects.html?pmc for a complete list of projects (as documented by PMCs, then there are a lot of software that is not d

Re: Question about sub-projects and project merging

2015-07-12 Thread Niclas Hedhman
>From peanut gallery; a. It looks to me that there is no overwhelming reason to merge the communities. In fact, IF it already was a single community, it might be time to split Samza out. Ask this question; If the active Samza devs lay down their tools, how many Kafka devs would care about (and f

Question about sub-projects and project merging

2015-07-12 Thread Jay Kreps
Hey board members, There is a longish thread on the Apache Samza mailing list on the relationship between Kafka and Samza and whether they wouldn't make a lot more sense as a single project. This raised some questions I was hoping to get advice on. Discussion thread (warning: super long, I attemp