Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

I have found this interesting reading about this topic https://www.apache.org/dev/pmc.html#pmc-removal Quoting it here: "Typically, PMC members who are no longer able to participate will resign from the PMC. However, if a PMC chooses to remove one of its members (without that member's request or

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Stepping back slightly, this thread started with a desire to: > Gain real visibility into the health of the project in terms of real > active PMC / Committers members. What if instead we ask how we as a community can show prospective and new users that Apache Pulsar is a healthy project? For me,

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Enrico, I was referring to this part of the quote: do a PMC roll > call on private@pulsar.a.o and ask whether > current PMC members self describe as “active” or “inactive”. That status > could then be reflected on the Community section of the pulsar website. The idea P

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Thanks Dave. All the points you raised are valid. To be clear, my main point is that there’s no good reason to remove inactive contributors from Committership/PMC Membership. Period. I’ll concede that PMCs have the freedom decide on their own if and how to publish their community roster. But I

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Sent from my iPhone > On Mar 7, 2023, at 3:34 PM, P. Taylor Goetz wrote: > >  > >> On Mar 7, 2023, at 6:36 AM, Enrico Olivelli wrote: >> >> Websites tend to quickly become obsolete about this kind of thing, >> because really >> nobody takes care of its own "status" on a project, or that i

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

> On Mar 7, 2023, at 6:36 AM, Enrico Olivelli wrote: > > Websites tend to quickly become obsolete about this kind of thing, > because really > nobody takes care of its own "status" on a project, or that it is > "visible" on the website. > It is not for the benefit of anyone. I would beg to dif

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Il giorno lun 6 mar 2023 alle ore 23:12 Asaf Mesika ha scritto: > > Tison, > > The suggestion was stated a bit differently: > > Quote: > > Rather, I would recommend a project-level “active/inactive” flag that PMC > members can voluntarily apply to themselves. For example, do a PMC roll > call on p

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Tison, The suggestion was stated a bit differently: Quote: Rather, I would recommend a project-level “active/inactive” flag that PMC members can voluntarily apply to themselves. For example, do a PMC roll call on private@pulsar.a.o and ask whether current PMC members

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

I won't object if any PMC member or committer is willing to set their personal status; e.g., open to topics of a specific domain, "inactive" or "don't disturb" Best, tison. Asaf Mesika 于2023年3月7日周二 00:05写道： > Do other think it's a good thing to adopt P. Taylor Goetz idea of active > flag and t

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Do other think it's a good thing to adopt P. Taylor Goetz idea of active flag and the process suggested? On Mon, Mar 6, 2023 at 2:03 PM tison wrote: > Hi Yu, > > You can start by adding a page on the contribution guide or a table in the > README of the main repo/site repo to state that you're a

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Hi Yu, You can start by adding a page on the contribution guide or a table in the README of the main repo/site repo to state that you're an expert in the document domain. I have an in-house landscape about Pulsar modules, the broader ecosystem, and their active contributors/maintainers. Since peo

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Hi Asaf, Thanks for bringing this up! If I may put my two pennies' worth: To be honest, this idea flashed across my mind previously. I talked about this to my colleague, and he was surprised that I was willing to be deprived of benefits (at that time, I was a PMC member already). PMC members ar

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Thanks to everyone who took the time to carefully answer with detailed explanations. I personally learned a lot about Apache projects this way (made me read about it some more). So my personal recap is: - The goal of knowing the health of the Apache Pulsar community can be achieved by takin

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

This is an interesting discussion. Good to see this kind of a discussion on the dev@ mailing list, this way more people are aware of the fact that we are a project in the ASF and there is a Project Management Committee. I have been following a few Apache projects for a while, and I believe that th

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

As a PMC member, I don't like playing a game of determining who should be removed from PMC as well. I hear a viewpoint that someone is only participating in the community only to join a PMC so that he can benefit from it. After becoming a PMC member, he is never active in the community. It might b

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Hi, In the proposal, it's unclear if you'd like to _mark_ the inactive members in emeritus status or _remove_ them from the LDAP group. I saw a similar discussion in the Flink community, resulting in "active" sentences in its Bylaws[1]. Here is some consensus there: 1. Merits never expire. There

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Hi, > On Mar 2, 2023, at 11:58 AM, Asaf Mesika wrote: > > Hi, > > Following the discussion I've started in Pulsar bi-weekly meetings. As I said when you brought this up, I don’t think it is a good idea, not a good idea at all. > Projects can establish their own policy on handling inactive me

Re: [DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

I would proceed carefully with this, and would recommend against removing PMC members who are “inactive”. Rather, I would recommend a project-level “active/inactive” flag that PMC members can voluntarily apply to themselves. For example, do a PMC roll call on private@pulsar.a.o

[DISCUSS] PMC/Committer Emiratus status

Hi, Following the discussion I've started in Pulsar bi-weekly meetings. = The idea PMC and Committers members will transition into Emeritus status after X months of inactivity, or voluntarily. = Why? - Gain real visibility into the health of the project in terms of real active PMC / Committers m