>
> I have selected these examples from the most recent discussions and they
> may not be the best examples to fully illustrate the point.
You should respect people's time by taking the time to craft your replies
in this discussion.
>From my experience, I've been contributing a lot in recent year
>> If you check the votes and the participation in discussion of PIPs it is
*always* involving contributions of >3 different companies.
>> Well, I think you've chosen *very* bad examples. In none of these cases
the discussion
I have selected these examples from the most recent discussions and they
> On Mar 7, 2024, at 4:20 AM, Neng Lu wrote:
>
> BTW, if your team is really tired of managing a stable Pulsar, StreamNative
> can help you :)
And so can DataStax ;-)
I normally tend to be a silent observer of the community due to my
limited time schedule.
But I feel the obligation to share my thoughts in this thread so that
people are not misled.
> Most of the PIP monitoring involves adding plugins to existing
> metrics APIs. He has also contributed to the PIP
My fault for missing the discussion mails for these PIPs because I
didn't check the archives of previous months.
Thanks,
Yunze
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 3:05 PM Lari Hotari wrote:
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 08:14, Girish Sharma wrote:
> > There is for 310 -
> > https://lists.apache.org/thread/13ncs
On Thu, 7 Mar 2024 at 08:14, Girish Sharma wrote:
> There is for 310 -
> https://lists.apache.org/thread/13ncst2nc311vxok1s75thl2gtnk7w1t
Girish, thank you for sharing the link to the PIP-310 thread.
We also met in community meetings to discuss PIP-310
(https://lists.apache.org/thread/y1sqpyv37fo
>
> know I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but it’s not respectful to be
> biased and act like an expert during the reviews, while you’ve contributed
> just for documentation PRs. When I talk about experience, I’m talking about
> reviewers who don’t contribute to the project, they ask questions t
Hello,
Please find the discussion thread for PIP-337 on the Dev mailing list:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/v4xh3fqy2t62xdk37b2ghvkrvvnqrx80
In the case of PIP-337, Lari was prompt in helping review the PIP and PR
and providing valuable feedback. I acknowledged it via slack direct message
to hi
On Thu, Mar 7, 2024 at 11:38 AM Yunze Xu wrote:
> Regarding PIP-332 and PIP 310, similar to PIP-337, there is no
> discussion mail in the dev mail list. David left a comment [1] in
>
There is for 310 -
https://lists.apache.org/thread/13ncst2nc311vxok1s75thl2gtnk7w1t
Regards
--
Girish Sharma
Regarding PIP-332 and PIP 310, similar to PIP-337, there is no
discussion mail in the dev mail list. David left a comment [1] in
PIP-332 and there is no response. We can see discussions among Lari,
Asaf and the author in PIP-310. And eventually PIP-310 is closed
because the author has a different w
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 7:02 PM Kalwit S wrote:
> I know I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but it’s not respectful to be
> biased and act like an expert during the reviews, while you’ve contributed
> just for documentation PRs. When I talk about experience, I’m talking about
> reviewers who don’
> Our team has also tried to submit multiple
enhancements and also PIP, but most of them are bogged down by
reviewers who are very new to Pulsar, might not understand messaging
correctly, or don’t find such enhancements useful for their usecases.
If your PRs or PIPs are not taken enough care of,
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 10:01 PM, Kalwit S wrote:
>
> Also, Pulsar may have
> numbers of non-SM PMC’s and committers, but if you look at the numbers over
> the last 2-3 years, you’ll see that 99% are from SM.
If you are saying that this is the proportion of new committers and PMC members
in the
I know I’m not trying to be disrespectful, but it’s not respectful to be
biased and act like an expert during the reviews, while you’ve contributed
just for documentation PRs. When I talk about experience, I’m talking about
reviewers who don’t contribute to the project, they ask questions to get to
I have not seen any specific asks or examples that give rise to these
gripes, so it's all hypotheticals as of now. Please, as Enrico said, bring
up specific issues.
(1) How many reviewers (less than 1) have been involved in PIP review
outside of the streamnative provider and how many of them have
On Wed, Mar 6, 2024 at 12:49 PM Kalwit S wrote:
> Thanks for your reply. But I wasn’t going to go after a specific person. I
>
Though that's precisely what your message was doing, in a very rude way.
(1) How many reviewers (less than 1) have been involved in PIP review
> outside of the streamna
Kalwit,
Il Mer 6 Mar 2024, 21:49 Kalwit S ha scritto:
> Thanks for your reply. But I wasn’t going to go after a specific person. I
> just wanted to point out this is an example of what we’ve been seeing for a
> while now. And I wanted to point out why we’re not going to go with Pulsar.
> Becaus
Thanks for your reply. But I wasn’t going to go after a specific person. I
just wanted to point out this is an example of what we’ve been seeing for a
while now. And I wanted to point out why we’re not going to go with Pulsar.
Because if Streamnative is on the same trajectory as Confluent, then
the
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 4:50 AM, Lari Hotari wrote:
>
> Hi Kalwit,
>
> In Apache Pulsar, as in any other Apache project, everyone is equal
> regardless of their committer or PMC status. All project participants
> are free to express their opinions, and, where appropriate, have the
> community co
> On Mar 6, 2024, at 2:31 AM, Enrico Olivelli wrote:
>
> Kalwit,
> All the committers are invited by the PMC, you can reach out to
> priv...@pulsar.apache.org if you have any problems.
>
> Being a committer is not only about doing code contributions, but also
> talking care of the project and
Hi Kalwit,
In Apache Pulsar, as in any other Apache project, everyone is equal
regardless of their committer or PMC status. All project participants
are free to express their opinions, and, where appropriate, have the
community consider them when decisions are made. [1]
I'm sorry to hear that you
Kalwit,
All the committers are invited by the PMC, you can reach out to
priv...@pulsar.apache.org if you have any problems.
Being a committer is not only about doing code contributions, but also
talking care of the project and the community.
I am sorry to hear that you feel that your contribution
I will not enter into debating the long list of grievances here, though I
thought I needed to clarify at least 2 points:
1. You can ask any questions and direct any feedback to the PMC (and if
you're not happy with the response you can take it all the way up to the
ASF Board), but personal attacks
Congratulations Asaf.
Btw, does the Apache project have any promotion criteria for committers? I
looked at Asaf's commits at
https://github.com/apache/pulsar/commits?author=asafm and found that 99%
of the commits are simple documentation changes and 1% are related to PIP
monitoring. Most of the P
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