Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-23 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-02-23 22:04 GMT+03:00 Pravin Shelar : > I am working on STT support for OVS repo. I hope it will get into 2.4. Thanks! -- Vasiliy Tolstov, e-mail: v.tols...@selfip.ru jabber: v...@selfip.ru ___ dev mailing list dev@openvswitch.org http://openvswi

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-23 Thread Pravin Shelar
On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 5:51 AM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: > 2015-02-05 16:56 GMT+03:00 Vasiliy Tolstov : >> As STT have performance benefits to me (i'm use tunnels to transfer traffic >> from vps also i have mutipath tcp enabled hosts to decrease cost in switches >> that not have stacking support),

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-05 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-02-05 14:16 GMT+03:00 Thomas Graf : > STT obviously does some abuse but so do other encaps like VXLAN which > abuse the outer UDP sport to benefit from RSS. It is however very hard > to argue with the feedback given. > As STT have performance benefits to me (i'm use tunnels to transfer traff

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-05 Thread Thomas Graf
On 02/03/15 at 11:27am, Pravin Shelar wrote: > On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, John W. Linville > wrote: > > Thanks for doing that research for me! :-) You don't see any way to > > work with Dave M. around his objections? > > > > Violating an "upstream first" policy seems like you are making an "

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-04 Thread Pravin Shelar
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 11:04 PM, Vasiliy Tolstov wrote: > > 2015-02-04 10:04 GMT+03:00 Vasiliy Tolstov : >> >> Does it possible to add to readme test results posted in mailing list >> about vxlan and stt and do this tests also (on the same hardware) for gre, >> listp, geneve? > > > Or openvswitch

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread Vasiliy Tolstov
2015-02-03 22:27 GMT+03:00 Pravin Shelar : > I do not have any plans of pushing STT to upstream kernel. I do not > think increased STT usage will help us getting STT upstream in future. > STT is useful tunneling protocol regardless of whether it is upstream > or not and that is motivation of mergi

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread John Xiao
Thanks Jesse. Sorry I misunderstood that. On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:18 PM, Jesse Gross wrote: > I think he just meant the pieces to configure the kernel implementation. > > Realistically, nobody on this list is going to be able to give you a > legal opinion. You should talk to a lawyer to determi

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread Jesse Gross
I think he just meant the pieces to configure the kernel implementation. Realistically, nobody on this list is going to be able to give you a legal opinion. You should talk to a lawyer to determine your rights as far as patents go. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 8:11 PM, John Xiao wrote: > Thanks Jesse!

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread John Xiao
Thanks Jesse! That's true that there is no such patch yet. Pravin just mentioned "I will send out OVS userspace patch on ovs-dev mailing list." in http://marc.info/?l=linux-netdev&m=142257416618642&w=2 On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 11:50 AM, Jesse Gross wrote: > Userspace code is generally licensed und

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread Jesse Gross
Userspace code is generally licensed under Apache 2 but I don't think anyone has proposed such patches to date. On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 6:07 PM, John Xiao wrote: > Thanks Ben! > > For user space tunneling patches, I guess they will be under Apache > License 2 which also means the patent licenses w

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread John Xiao
Thanks Ben! For user space tunneling patches, I guess they will be under Apache License 2 which also means the patent licenses will be granted by the patches distributor/patent holder (i.e. Nicira). On Wed, Feb 4, 2015 at 12:45 AM, Ben Pfaff wrote: > On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 12:12:41PM +0800, Joh

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread Pravin Shelar
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 10:19 AM, John W. Linville wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 01:34:07PM -0800, Pravin Shelar wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, John W. Linville >> wrote: >> > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 10:55:25AM -0800, Pravin Shelar wrote: >> >> STT patches were posted on netdev mail

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread Nicholas Bastin
On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 12:19 PM, John W. Linville wrote: > Thanks for doing that research for me! :-) You don't see any way to > work with Dave M. around his objections? > It seems to be a philosophical objection, which is likely intractable. > Violating an "upstream first" policy seems like y

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 01:34:07PM -0800, Pravin Shelar wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, John W. Linville > wrote: > > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 10:55:25AM -0800, Pravin Shelar wrote: > >> STT patches were posted on netdev mailing list, But it was rejected. > >> As policy datapath patches m

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-03 Thread Ben Pfaff
On Tue, Feb 03, 2015 at 12:12:41PM +0800, John Xiao wrote: > One question on STT IP, is it free to use STT in commercial products? > I believe Nicira has patents on this. Assuming that Nicira does, the patches are being offered by the patent holder under GPLv2, see http://en.swpat.org/wiki/GPLv2_a

[ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-02 Thread John Xiao
Thanks Pravin for sharing the patch. One question on STT IP, is it free to use STT in commercial products? I believe Nicira has patents on this. Thanks, John On Tue, Feb 3, 2015 at 5:34 AM, Pravin Shelar wrote: > On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, John W. Linville > wrote: >> On Mon, Feb 02, 20

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-02 Thread Pravin Shelar
On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 11:20 AM, John W. Linville wrote: > On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 10:55:25AM -0800, Pravin Shelar wrote: >> STT patches were posted on netdev mailing list, But it was rejected. >> As policy datapath patches must be accepted first in upstream kernel >> before ported to OVS repo. Bu

Re: [ovs-dev] [ovs-discuss] Open vSwitch STT support

2015-02-02 Thread John W. Linville
On Mon, Feb 02, 2015 at 10:55:25AM -0800, Pravin Shelar wrote: > STT patches were posted on netdev mailing list, But it was rejected. > As policy datapath patches must be accepted first in upstream kernel > before ported to OVS repo. But considering STT is well known protocol, > it is used in produ