Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-21 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:19 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM, F C. Costero wrote: >> On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescettiwrote: > Rob Weir wr

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 9:14 PM, F C. Costero wrote: > On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> >> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: >>> >>> On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea >>> Pescettiwrote: >>> Rob Weir wrote: > OK. Here is a draft: > https://blogs.ap

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread F C. Costero
On 1/20/2013 2:48 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescettiwrote: Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is a draft: https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** merging_symphony_allegro_non_**troppo

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Rob Weir
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 1:30 PM, Kay Schenk wrote: > On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> OK. Here is a draft: >>> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** >>> merging_symphony_allegro_non_**troppo

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Kay Schenk
On Sun, Jan 20, 2013 at 7:15 AM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: > >> OK. Here is a draft: >> https://blogs.apache.org/**preview/OOo/?previewEntry=** >> merging_symphony_allegro_non_**troppo >> Note t

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-20 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: OK. Here is a draft: https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=merging_symphony_allegro_non_troppo Note that there are some suggested topics at the end, where I need detail. I welcome help from anyone who can help fill in the details. Thanks! In the draft you ask for

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 10:04 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > > - Messaggio originale - >> Da: Rob Weir > ... >>> >>> Well, much of the material is on the wiki. And we probably don't want >>> to get too technical. >>> >>> But I can put a draft together at least. >>> >> >> OK. He

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; - Messaggio originale - > Da: Rob Weir  ... >> >> Well, much of the material is on the wiki.  And we probably don't want >> to get too technical. >> >> But I can put a draft together at least. >> > > OK.  Here is a draft: > https://blogs.apache.org/preview/OOo/?previewEntry=

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 7:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> On 16/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: >> >>> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be properly acknowledged and ge

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Rob Weir
On Sat, Jan 19, 2013 at 3:08 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 16/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: > >> On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >>> >>> the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be >>> properly acknowledged and get exposure. >> >> Agreed. So I am glad then that you made

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-19 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 16/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: the Symphony contribution in itself is worth to be properly acknowledged and get exposure. Agreed. So I am glad then that you made the call for additional blog authors. It is probably best if the Symphony co

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 10:42 AM, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > On 1/10/13, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen >> wrote: >>> Rob, >>> >>> Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know >>> which >>> one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but th

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-16 Thread Alexandro Colorado
On 1/10/13, Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen > wrote: >> Rob, >> >> Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know >> which >> one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply >> to >> it. >> >> I ask because I did not see

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jan 15, 2013 at 4:09 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > On 11/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: >> >> In any case, pointing out the lie on this list already gives 90% of >> the benefit, since such FUD cannot survive the light of day. A blog >> post is unnecessary. > > > Regardless of what prompted the di

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-15 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 11/01/2013 Rob Weir wrote: In any case, pointing out the lie on this list already gives 90% of the benefit, since such FUD cannot survive the light of day. A blog post is unnecessary. Regardless of what prompted the discussion here, a specific blog post about what the Symphony contribution

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-14 Thread Shenfeng Liu
2013/1/12 Kay Schenk > On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: > > > 2013/1/11 Rob Weir > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti > > > wrote: > > > > Rob Weir wrote: > > > >> > > > >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I > > > >> > > > >> ca

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Kay Schenk
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 1:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: > 2013/1/11 Rob Weir > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti > > wrote: > > > Rob Weir wrote: > > >> > > >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I > > >> > > >> can certainly sympathize with leaders of commu

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 11.01.2013 13:59, Rob Weir wrote: On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: [...] In general we can improve our communication to the public. We can more often talk about what we are doing, or can collect on a regular base the fixes we have made. Herbert prepared a nice script th

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Rob Weir
On Fri, Jan 11, 2013 at 4:38 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 1/11/13 10:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: >> 2013/1/11 Rob Weir >> >>> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti >>> wrote: Rob Weir wrote: > > I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I > > can c

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Fernando Cassia
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the > "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "IBM faked the > donation of the Symphony code" and "IBM did not donate anything". I > can certainly sympathize with leader

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 1/11/13 10:20 AM, Shenfeng Liu wrote: > 2013/1/11 Rob Weir > >> On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti >> wrote: >>> Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be >

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-11 Thread Shenfeng Liu
2013/1/11 Rob Weir > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti > wrote: > > Rob Weir wrote: > >> > >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I > >> > >> can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be > >> held together by irrational fears. It is n

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Rob Weir wrote: >> >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I >> >> can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be >> held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that >> peak leve

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > >> People don't care to look, unfortunately... But I definitely agree that >> this listing is impressive, as it is this page: >> http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Drew Jensen
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > People don't care to look, unfortunately... But I definitely agree that > this listing is impressive, as it is this page: > http://wiki.openoffice.org/**wiki/Documentation/Fidelity_** > Improvement_Since_AOO341

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Rob Weir wrote: I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects ... I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irrational fears. It is not easy to maintain that peak level of paranoia. Your personal opinions on the people involved (I admit I h

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/11/2013 12:03 AM, schrieb Rory O'Farrell: On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:53:40 +0100 "Marcus (OOo)" wrote: Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF maili

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 23:53:40 +0100 "Marcus (OOo)" wrote: > Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: > > Hello Marcus; > > > > > > - Messaggio originale - > >> Da: Marcus (OOo) > > > > > > I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing > l

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/10/2013 11:40 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - Da: Marcus (OOo) I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing list. But I would not be surprised if it originated there. In any case, when a TDF Director and Marke

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Kay Schenk
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 2:11 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hello; > > > - Messaggio originale - > > Da: Rob Weir > > > > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen > > wrote: > >> Rob, > >> > >> Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know > which > >> one that

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello Marcus; - Messaggio originale - > Da: Marcus (OOo)  >>> >>> I learned about these claims via email, but not from the TDF mailing >>> list.  But I would not be surprised if it originated there.  In any >>> case, when a TDF Director and Marketing Lead makes such claims, it

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Drew Jensen
Also, the ia2 support, will be a natural point of interest and it would be foolish not to include it in the normal course of presenting ongoing work. Personally I would not reward that email with special attention given the above. In specific, no response to that email came to the list, no suppor

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 01/10/2013 11:11 PM, schrieb Pedro Giffuni: Hello; - Messaggio originale - Da: Rob Weir On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hello; - Messaggio originale - > Da: Rob Weir  > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen  > wrote: >> Rob, >> >> Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which >> one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply > to >> it.

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 1:01 PM, Drew Jensen wrote: > Rob, > > Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which > one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to > it. > > I ask because I did not see that go any further then the ml, but that > d

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Drew Jensen
Rob, Are you referring only to the email on the TDF mailing list - I know which one that would be I'm sure, and I drafted but then did not send a reply to it. I ask because I did not see that go any further then the ml, but that doesn't mean that it didn't. Thanks Drew On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rory O'Farrell
On Thu, 10 Jan 2013 12:35:16 -0500 Rob Weir wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the > >> "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "I

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:16 PM, Donald Whytock wrote: > On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: >> I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the >> "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "IBM faked the >> donation of the Symphony code" and "IBM did n

Re: Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Donald Whytock
On Thu, Jan 10, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the > "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "IBM faked the > donation of the Symphony code" and "IBM did not donate anything". Did they explain how one fakes a donatio

Symphony code in AOO 4.0

2013-01-10 Thread Rob Weir
I'm reading FUD, from the usual misinformed suspects, saying that the "IBM donation to AOO is pure marketing fluff" and "IBM faked the donation of the Symphony code" and "IBM did not donate anything". I can certainly sympathize with leaders of communities that can only be held together by irratio