Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-17 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jürgen Schmidt wrote: I plan to start the vote now until late Friday afternoon (5:00pm UTC+2), that I am able to prepare everything before I will be away for some days. This is OK with me. What is important is that we reset the feedback we had on the previous RC and that we only count votes on

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-17 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/17/13 9:02 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 7/16/13 9:57 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: >> Dave Fisher wrote: >>> Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a >>> REQUIRED part of the Foundation's process. >> >> Exactly. We will need a new vote here. Thank you everybody for h

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-17 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/16/13 9:57 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > Dave Fisher wrote: >> Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a >> REQUIRED part of the Foundation's process. > > Exactly. We will need a new vote here. Thank you everybody for how this > issue has been handled. I think that R

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Marcus (OOo)
Am 07/16/2013 07:28 PM, schrieb Rob Weir: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote. OK. I did say, "If there are no objections..". It sounds like there are some concerns, so let's just run the full cer

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Dave Fisher wrote: Let's not make a big deal out of our quality process and then skip a REQUIRED part of the Foundation's process. Exactly. We will need a new vote here. Thank you everybody for how this issue has been handled. I think that Rob's blog post captures very nicely the values and s

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 12:40 PM, Dave Fisher wrote: > Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote. > OK. I did say, "If there are no objections..". It sounds like there are some concerns, so let's just run the full ceremony run through. It may be possible to w

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Dave Fisher
Putting on my Apache Member Hat. I do have an issue with skipping a re-vote. PMC members are checking signatures and checksums? And we are verifying that the source tag matches the RC for source? These are guaranteed to change with the re-spin. Let's not make a big deal out of our quality proce

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Kay Schenk
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 4:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: > > On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: > >> Hi Jürgen, > >> > >> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and > >> with it, using even the very same file where I had that

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread janI
On 16 July 2013 16:21, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Max Merbald wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I'd also suggest it would be best to include the issues listed by Jürgen > in > > the other thread. Better to include them than to have complaints by > users, > > and, possibly, bad pres

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Peter Junge
On 7/16/2013 9:30 PM, Samer Mansour wrote: We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open. I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS. I still cannot reproduce it. You have some more apps open in that video. Can they be related as well? Anyway, if th

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 10:11 AM, Max Merbald wrote: > Hi, > > I'd also suggest it would be best to include the issues listed by Jürgen in > the other thread. Better to include them than to have complaints by users, > and, possibly, bad press. I don't think there's a need to hurry things. > Anothe

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Max Merbald
Hi, I'd also suggest it would be best to include the issues listed by Jürgen in the other thread. Better to include them than to have complaints by users, and, possibly, bad press. I don't think there's a need to hurry things. Another vote wouldn't hurt, would it? Max Am 16.07.2013 15:58,

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Ricardo Berlasso
2013/7/16 Rob Weir > > > it is not easy for me to decide at the moment. What do others think? A > > respin means rebuilding all platforms, signing and uploading the new > > files. And then another vote cycle of 72 hr. > > > > Do we need another 72-hour vote? If there are no objections I'd > sup

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Peter Junge
On 7/16/2013 8:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same fil

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:41 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: > Oh and great work everyone! To the people who helped verify and volunteer > coders who helped fix the bug! > Thanks to you you and Herbert for the extra effort. I'm reminded of this classic Volkswagen advertisement: http://www.writingforde

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Samer Mansour
Oh and great work everyone! To the people who helped verify and volunteer coders who helped fix the bug! On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: > We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open. > I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Samer Mansour
We found the mystery trick. Have Windows File Explorer open. I overlooked that in my environment because its seems so core to the OS. Here is the video of the error reproduced: https://t.co/VLAyfSGwQC This fix sent to me by Herbert Duerr via e-mail fixes the issue. https://issues.apache.org/ooo/s

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Yuzhen Fan
Simon, Juergen and all, I have checked the dll on Windows 7 in Writer/Calc/Impress, with steps: enter "Hello World", Ctrl-A to select all, Ctrl-C to copy, Ctrl-X to cut, Ctrl-V to paste, and also using menu, like 'Edit' -> 'Copy', 'Cut' or 'Paste'. All above function work without regression. Rega

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Shenfeng Liu
Juergen, I believe it is a right decision to respin and include this fix. While besides verifying it on Windows 8, I also asked Yu Zhen to help verify the dll on Windows 7 to ensure the fix is no impact to Windows 7. Yu Zhen will update the result within hours. Thanks very much for your quick t

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/16/13 2:03 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: >> On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: >>> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using e

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Rob Weir
On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 7:39 AM, Jürgen Schmidt wrote: > On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: >> On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: >>> Hi Jürgen, >>> >>> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and >>> with it, using even the very same file where I had that cras

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/16/13 1:06 PM, Peter Junge wrote: > On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: >> Hi Jürgen, >> >> I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and >> with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June >> 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this ti

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Peter Junge
On 7/16/2013 6:55 PM, Max Merbald wrote: Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work a bit more with Openoffice 4 no

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Max Merbald
Hi Jürgen, I just tried the same action with both AOO 4 without your dll file and with it, using even the very same file where I had that crash on June 22, but in neither case did I have a crash this time. I think I'll work a bit more with Openoffice 4 now and if anything of the kind happens

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/16/13 9:56 AM, Herbert Duerr wrote: > On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote: >> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour >> wrote: >>> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new >>> bug sorry if its a duplicate. >>> >>> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on cop

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Herbert Duerr
On 15.07.2013 22:47, Rob Weir wrote: On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new bug sorry if its a duplicate. It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to not be affected. The four steps R

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-16 Thread Jürgen Schmidt
On 7/15/13 10:47 PM, Rob Weir wrote: > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: >> I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new >> bug sorry if its a duplicate. >> >> It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to not be >> affected. >> >

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: > I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new > bug sorry if its a duplicate. > > It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to not be > affected. > > The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the m

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Samer Mansour
I logged my comments in the bug, I searched the db before I opened a new bug sorry if its a duplicate. It is windows 8 64-bit. Crashes on copy and cut. Paste seems to not be affected. The four steps Rob gave in the bug are the minimum required steps to reproduce. On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:38

Re: Possible show stopper on Windows 8, please verify

2013-07-15 Thread Rob Weir
On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:31 AM, Samer Mansour wrote: > I just got my testlink set up, and received a couple test cases 7 hours ago. > > The first test I went to do I couldn't complete because it caused what I > think is a show stopper for windows 8 (if its reproducible) > > Can anyone copy or cu