On 13-03-27, at 12:36 , Malte Timmermann <malte_timmerm...@gmx.com> wrote:
> 
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> If you want to give me more details about the OOXML/ODF viewing stuff, please 
> come back on me via private email (but not the one I am using here) or 
> linkedin :)
Sure. 
Publicly available works for mobile devices include those you can download from 
the iOS app store, such as UX Write*, Symphony, FileLApp Pro—these are all 
native—and provide for viewing. Others exist, too; viewing ODF text (and some 
more than that) is not hard. Editing and then expressing as ODF is harder—and 
it remains to be seen how desirable, in full.

Personally, I argue for Good Enough. Few will do complex documents on a tablet, 
at least at this point, and so why have capabilities for that? Better to have a 
good enough approach that allows for noncomplex (but equally nontrivial) usage.

HTML does a splendid job of this—that's the approach that UX Write is taking.

Apps that utilize HTML5, such as rollApp seem to have a brilliant future but 
that's a future whose sun has not risen yet. We all know the cybersphere is 
coming (just before the Singularity which is followed by Skynet and then the 
Armageddon bodied by Arnold the Terminator), but ubiquitous fast connectivity 
is not here yet. And even in places where it does exist, such as So. Korea, how 
used *is* HTML5 for apps, as in the Web services model? Data, anyone? (not sure 
if games count.)

Others working on this—mobile editing of ODF—include, I have no doubt, those at 
Ko.GmbH, and probably also many others.

Outside of ODF, there are quite a few viewers but very few editors and even 
fewer that would seem to work well for actual people. Iv'e tried most, if not 
all. They work fine; sans keyboard, and on a plane, very nicely. With a 
keyboard, they are effectively netbooks. But here's the issue, again: You don't 
need OOo on them or in them, you just need an editor that can express ODF, in 
some useable version, so that devices fully equipped with ODF editors can 
read/write the document. 

I'll write more directly, but there is a huge market for tablets equipped with 
ODF editors. Think education in rich and poor countries (there's seemingly less 
of a difference, now), and think of the trash that would not be produced using 
thin clients—whoops, I mean, tablets.




> 
>> 
>> Oh, then there is accessibility. You remember that, yes? :-)
> 
> I remember - I had so much fun with that ;)
> 
> But honestly: Accessibility is such an important and interesting (and 
> difficult) topic that I already volunteered to take care for that inside OX 
> too…

I speculate if it would not be rather cool to have a kind of manifesto that ODF 
supporting apps and projects could agree to proclaiming the importance of 
accessibility in design and function. It's implicit in what we do and also 
explicit; but it's also not as public or broadcast as it could be, and the 
design principles seem sometimes opaque to too many.


> 
> Malte.
> 
best
louis
> 


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