Re: a more sane way to override optimization flags in gbuild

2017-12-02 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sun, Dec 3, 2017 at 2:25 AM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > > > On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > > > On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a supported > >> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues. > > > > Such as, f

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Don Lewis
On 1 Dec, Jim Jagielski wrote: > I also like that we announce 4.1.5-GA at the same time we announce > 4.2.0-B1. I think we are still a ways from being ready for a Beta release. For instance, we need to do another sweep of the bundled software to see what needs to be updated. For instance, I rec

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Don Lewis
On 2 Dec, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> Playing devils advocate, does it make sense to introduce >> Yet Another Build System at this stage? >> >> > I anticipated this question. > > Firstly, we don't only have dmake and gbuild as our build sy

Re: a more sane way to override optimization flags in gbuild

2017-12-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 2, 2017, at 5:56 PM, Andrea Pescetti wrote: > > On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote: >> I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a supported >> build system... I ran into a LOT of issues. > > Such as, for example? for starters: o zip 3.0. o GIO > I think that the

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Jim Jagielski wrote: I went ahead and copied the 4.1.4 page and created: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OOOUSERS/AOO+4.1.5 Of course, it needs to be further cleaned up. I can RM if that's OK with everyone. Fine with me, let's keep unchanged everything that worked well for 4.1

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 01/12/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote: I see that Pat has committed the security patches to trunk, which is fantastic! Maybe we should take the next few business days and go thru Bugz and see what, if anything, would be low-risk patches to trunk and pencil in, say, Dec 7th as a "code freeze" date for

Re: [Issue 20819] add polynomial regression type

2017-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Peter Kovacs wrote: https://bz.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=20819 ... The best way imho is to let the users vote. How about follwing flow: 1) check if we can include the extention by license or find an agreement with the maintainers. 2) Put a call to Vote if the package should be included or no

Re: a more sane way to override optimization flags in gbuild

2017-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
On 30/11/2017 Jim Jagielski wrote: I think for 4.2.x and later, we have deprecated CentOS5 as a supported build system... I ran into a LOT of issues. Such as, for example? I think that the guide we have at https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#CentOS_5 u

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Marcus
Am 02.12.2017 um 23:13 schrieb Jim Jagielski: On Dec 2, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: Playing devils advocate, does it make sense to introduce Yet Another Build System at this stage? I anticipated this question. :) Se

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 2, 2017, at 1:59 PM, Damjan Jovanovic wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > >> Playing devils advocate, does it make sense to introduce >> Yet Another Build System at this stage? >> >> > I anticipated this question. :) > > Secondly SCons can replace ./

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Sat, Dec 2, 2017 at 4:19 PM, Jim Jagielski wrote: > Playing devils advocate, does it make sense to introduce > Yet Another Build System at this stage? > > I anticipated this question. Firstly, we don't only have dmake and gbuild as our build systems. We also use Ant, meta-build tools like bui

Re: [Issue 20819] add polynomial regression type

2017-12-02 Thread jonathon
On 12/01/2017 05:17 PM, Marcus wrote: >>> This is absolutely a basic feature, i don't understand why there are >>> more advanced regression types such as logaritmepic or poware when a >>> polynomial regression is lacking. > Maybe because we have an *Office* Suite and not a *Mathematical* Suite? T

Re: [Issue 20819] add polynomial regression type

2017-12-02 Thread Marcus
Am 02.12.2017 um 16:51 schrieb Peter Kovacs: Am Samstag, den 02.12.2017, 14:40 +0100 schrieb Marcus: We said we would like to give our users a voice. Wouldn't it be appropriate to give them exactly this voice? This is a clear concept to me. maybe. Sorry when this sounds too negative but tha

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Am Samstag, den 02.12.2017, 09:19 -0500 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > Playing devils advocate, does it make sense to introduce > Yet Another Build System at this stage? I see it as for the search for the future build system. There is always the discussion popping up what to use. Gbuild seem to make some

Re: [Issue 20819] add polynomial regression type

2017-12-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Am Samstag, den 02.12.2017, 14:40 +0100 schrieb Marcus: > > > We said we would like to give our users a voice. Wouldn't it be > > appropriate to give them exactly this voice? This is a clear > > concept to > > me. > > maybe. > > Sorry when this sounds too negative but thats my opinion. I think a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 02.12.2017 um 15:56 schrieb Jim Jagielski: > Thx... Look like packager-list is the easiest way. This is my list (only Windows): https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Beta/aoo-build-pack-beta.lst > >> On Dec 2, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Matthias Seidel >> wrote: >> >> I use "--with-pack

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
Thx... Look like packager-list is the easiest way. > On Dec 2, 2017, at 9:41 AM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > I use "--with-packager-list=" in configure and define a pack list > according to: > https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/util/pack.lst > > Don't know

Re: FOSDEM 2018: Open Document Editors DevRoom

2017-12-02 Thread Andrea Pescetti
Reminder: 3 days left (Saturday, Sunday, Monday) for submitting your FOSDEM proposal. You just need a title and a short abstract for the moment. Submission instructions below. Regards, Andrea. Il 27/11/2017 08:42, Andrea Pescetti ha scritto: Reminder: submission deadline for proposal is in 7

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Matthias Seidel
I use "--with-packager-list=" in configure and define a pack list according to: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_native/util/pack.lst Don't know if there is a better way... Maybe you can see more in: https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/openoffice/trunk/main/instsetoo_

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
OK, so where do we specify that? Assuming: build --all -P -- -P Like this? build openofficebeta --all -P -- -P Or this? build --all openofficebeta -P -- -P Or here? build --all -P -- -P openofficebeta None seem to work :( = Building module solenv =

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 02.12.2017 um 15:16 schrieb Jim Jagielski: >> On Dec 2, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Matthias Seidel >> wrote: >> >> Am 02.12.2017 um 14:39 schrieb Marcus: >>> Am 02.12.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Despite of the name it could be the icon of the dmg file? I don't know where this icon

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
Playing devils advocate, does it make sense to introduce Yet Another Build System at this stage? Also, there are a few projects that I know of that use SCons. In general, one of the most popular common threads related to them are "Why the hell are you using SCons?" :) > On Dec 2, 2017, at 3:05 AM

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Jim Jagielski
> On Dec 2, 2017, at 8:44 AM, Matthias Seidel > wrote: > > Am 02.12.2017 um 14:39 schrieb Marcus: >> Am 02.12.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >>> Despite of the name it could be the icon of the dmg file? I don't >>> know where this icon set is visible... ;-) >>> >>> Apart from that: +1

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Marcus
Am 02.12.2017 um 14:44 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Am 02.12.2017 um 14:39 schrieb Marcus: Am 02.12.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Despite of the name it could be the icon of the dmg file? I don't know where this icon set is visible... ;-) Apart from that: +1 for a public beta. But we sho

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Matthias Seidel
Am 02.12.2017 um 14:39 schrieb Marcus: > Am 02.12.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Matthias Seidel: >> Despite of the name it could be the icon of the dmg file? I don't >> know where this icon set is visible... ;-) >> >> Apart from that: +1 for a public beta. >> >> But we should build "real" beta builds, with

Re: [Issue 20819] add polynomial regression type

2017-12-02 Thread Marcus
Am 02.12.2017 um 11:22 schrieb Peter Kovacs: Am Freitag, den 01.12.2017, 18:17 +0100 schrieb Marcus: Am 01.12.2017 um 18:09 schrieb Peter Kovacs: For me the existance is not a strong argument. The bug is with 149 votes quite popular. The discussion there is a repeatance that this is basic featu

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Marcus
Am 02.12.2017 um 13:22 schrieb Matthias Seidel: Despite of the name it could be the icon of the dmg file? I don't know where this icon set is visible... ;-) Apart from that: +1 for a public beta. But we should build "real" beta builds, with the appropriate naming/graphics: https://home.apach

Re: [PROPOSAL] Public Beta for 4.2

2017-12-02 Thread Matthias Seidel
Despite of the name it could be the icon of the dmg file? I don't know where this icon set is visible... ;-) Apart from that: +1 for a public beta. But we should build "real" beta builds, with the appropriate naming/graphics: https://home.apache.org/~mseidel/AOO-builds/AOO-420-Beta/About%20OpenOf

Re: [Issue 20819] add polynomial regression type

2017-12-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
Am Freitag, den 01.12.2017, 18:17 +0100 schrieb Marcus: > Am 01.12.2017 um 18:09 schrieb Peter Kovacs: > > For me the existance is not a strong argument. The bug is with 149 > > votes > > quite popular. The discussion there is a repeatance that this is > > basic > > feature. > > but we don't kno

Re: A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Peter Kovacs
sounds great from what you write. Lets try SCons build system. Where can I find your changes so I can help? Have you checked them into trunk? I have some expreience with python, which will come in handy. Meanwhile I read Scons Documentation. Am Samstag, den 02.12.2017, 10:05 +0200 schrieb Damjan

A more sane way to build - SCons, deCygwination and other hopes

2017-12-02 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi After days of failing to add a few new simple features to gbuild, I've now reached my limits, and have begun experimenting with the SCons build system instead. It's starting to work. Having ported some of gbuild.mk, LinkTarget.mk and platform/freebsd.mk to SCons, as well as a module's local gb