Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: > Hi Damjan and others; > > Indeed a new build system is very desirable but it is difficult to > choose one. I agree that choosing one which we already have a need > for in dependencies is wise. > > FWIW, I looked into some of the options mysel

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
Hmm, have to think about the IDE question. I'm a yes and no about that. IDEs should be usable. I'm not so clear that one should be essential to do a plain build of the product from source. I prefer command-line builds on Windows, although I use IDEs to edit and to do local builds of things t

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
On 2/5/2016 6:01 PM, Pedro Giffuni wrote: Hi Patricia .. good point about IDE's. We have a dilemma here: On one side ~80% of our users are Windows-based so it would certainly be ideal to use an environment where we keep both our users and our developers in sync. Unfortunately the majority of ou

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Patricia .. good point about IDE's. We have a dilemma here: On one side ~80% of our users are Windows-based so it would certainly be ideal to use an environment where we keep both our users and our developers in sync. Unfortunately the majority of our developers are not Windows based so ideal

RE: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
I think Marcus raises important points about capacity and how we could bootstrap through this. Some musings: There are also some related activities that need to follow in some manner, such as changing deployment for Windows and probably for OSX too, both for similar reasons. Getting into the

FW: [ApacheCon NA] Client Track

2016-02-05 Thread Dennis E. Hamilton
It is interesting how Cordova and Flex are different, but are concerned with client-facing technologies. Apache OpenOffice is probably the most heavily-client project that the ASF has, and Corinthia, had it endured, would be somewhere between these two kinds of client worlds. I can imagine an

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
I thought most windows developers were more IDE orientated than command line, so we should be considering selecting an IDE for Windows builds, and as many others as possible, and putting together the project files for it. Parallelism is far, far lower priority than reliable unattended buildin

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Pedro Giffuni
Hi Damjan and others; Indeed a new build system is very desirable but it is difficult to choose one. I agree that choosing one which we already have a need for in dependencies is wise. FWIW, I looked into some of the options myself: - Google's Bazel looked very promising: http://bazel.io/ But i

Re: Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Marcus
Am 02/05/2016 07:32 PM, schrieb Damjan Jovanovic: Hi With the recent buildbot saga and Patricia's Windows building nightmare, a number of serious issues were highlighted which got me thinking about how our build system could be improved. The problems with building AOO were researched and docume

Thoughts on a new build system for AOO

2016-02-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
Hi With the recent buildbot saga and Patricia's Windows building nightmare, a number of serious issues were highlighted which got me thinking about how our build system could be improved. The problems with building AOO were researched and documented years ago ( https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Bu

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-05 Thread Damjan Jovanovic
On Fri, Feb 5, 2016 at 4:52 PM, Regina Henschel wrote: > Hi Patricia, > > Patricia Shanahan schrieb: > >> My build finished! >> >> The next problem is to run it. I have hit two problems, one minor. The >> minor problem is that >> >> https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AO

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-05 Thread Regina Henschel
Hi Patricia, Patricia Shanahan schrieb: My build finished! The next problem is to run it. I have hit two problems, one minor. The minor problem is that https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 has incorrect paths using "OpenOffice" rather than "Ap

Re: Building on Windows

2016-02-05 Thread Patricia Shanahan
My build finished! The next problem is to run it. I have hit two problems, one minor. The minor problem is that https://wiki.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/Building_Guide_AOO/Step_by_step#Windows_7 has incorrect paths using "OpenOffice" rather than "Apache_OpenOffice". The more serious pr

Re: [PROPOSAL][DEVTOOLS] Stage Java BootstrapConnector to Maven Repository

2016-02-05 Thread Carl Marcum
On 02/04/2016 03:48 PM, Dennis E. Hamilton wrote: Summary: 1. I think the use of the openoffice "class path" and packaging that is already accepted for use be continued, rather than disturb the Java and maven identifiers that people are already using and expect. 2. Creating a distribution