Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-20 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
inal Message- > From: dev-return-4092-tempulse=163@nuttx.apache.org > On Behalf Of Miguel > ángel Herranz > Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:58 AM > To: dev@nuttx.apache.org > Subject: Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo > > Hi, I like the mascot idea, and all the animal

RE: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-20 Thread tempulse
n-4092-tempulse=163@nuttx.apache.org On Behalf Of Miguel ángel Herranz Sent: Saturday, June 20, 2020 6:58 AM To: dev@nuttx.apache.org Subject: Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo Hi, I like the mascot idea, and all the animals proposed. But I liked specially the turtle idea, somehow embedded :) Al

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Miguel Ángel Herranz
Hi, I like the mascot idea, and all the animals proposed. But I liked specially the turtle idea, somehow embedded :) Also, the idea of the "nut" and the origins in Costa Rica but somehow universal animal lead me to think in hermit crabs, specifically juvenile coconut crabs: it seems they use coconu

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
>>> My favorite animal, my "totem animal" is a turtle. Unfortunately, a turtle is not a good representation for a real time operating system! A Mutant Ninja Turtle. Noted. >> NuttX was created in Costa Rica so an animal from Costa Rica does not seem inappropriate. << Indeed, before

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
>>> Maybe puffins? [1] They are small, fast and can live in both sea and land. <<< What a cute bird! It looks like a cartoon character! And an excellent suggestion. Thank you, Abdelatif! Abdelatif Guettouche , 19 Haz 2020 Cum, 14:16 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > If you had to describe it with two o

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
>>> I just had a funny thought: given the name NuttX, what if we consider a nut, like a walnut. It could be partly open with "magic" emanating from inside... No. Not really. :) I also have something in my mind that is similar to yours. Besides, a nut reminds me of squirrels. These cute creatu

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:47 AM Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:25 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > NuttX was created in Costa Rica so an animal from Costa Rica does not > > seem in appropriate. Here the most beloved animals are (1) the > > rainforest frogs, the red-eyed rain fores

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Fri, Jun 19, 2020 at 9:25 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > NuttX was created in Costa Rica so an animal from Costa Rica does not > seem in appropriate. Here the most beloved animals are (1) the > rainforest frogs, the red-eyed rain forest frog in particular: In addition to real animals, we could con

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Gregory Nutt
When we talk about logos and mascots, we also need to be concerned about infringing on trademarks.  When this gets down to a few candidates we will probably need to do some investigation to make sure that we do have the rights to use the mascot.

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Gregory Nutt
I once was told that it was Linus Torvalds who insisted on the Pengquin mascot.  My favorit animal, my "totem animal" is  turtle. Unfortunately, a turtle is not a good representation for a real time operating system!  Unless it were a Mutant Ninja turtle ;) NuttX is a very international proje

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Abdelatif Guettouche
> If you had to describe it with two or three words, which words > would you choose? We can use the words (or rather, the properties) that define NuttX: small footprint, determinism, standard compliance. > NuttX is a very international project. The sun never sets on NuttX > developers. We are on

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-19 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
Thank you, Nathan. I appreciate your valuable comments. >>> Feel free to propose a logo anytime! <<< Since we have the support of a graphics expert (for a limited time), plenty of logo alternatives can be created. Having discussions and getting more feedback are the keys. In the end, having a be

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-18 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, Jun 18, 2020 at 7:43 AM Erdem MEYDANLI wrote: > I wanted to revive this discussion. As I stated before, I and a friend of > mine (a graphical artist.) will start working on this. But, > > - What's the deadline for this? (A deadline is a powerful force for > motivation.) Feel free to pro

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-06-18 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
I wanted to revive this discussion. As I stated before, I and a friend of mine (a graphical artist.) will start working on this. But, - What's the deadline for this? (A deadline is a powerful force for motivation.) - We are planning to come up with a logo with a mascot. As stated above, a mascot

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
Glad to hear that. A mascot like Linux penguin would make the brand name more recollective. No matter the community wouldn't like any of the proposals, at least, it's worth trying, I think. Well, if Zephyr weren't using that logo, it would be one of my suggestions. (Don't ask me why. Lol) I don't

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 1:14 PM Brennan Ashton wrote: > > On Thu, May 28, 2020, 10:06 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > We should complicate that. Justin said that Apache services could do > > any image conversions that we need. We should not restrict people if we > > don't need to > > Long as it is a

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Brennan Ashton
On Thu, May 28, 2020, 10:06 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > >> We should prefer SVG (or other widely-available and preferably open > >> vector format) because that will allow the logo to be blown up to huge > >> sizes or shrunk down to tiny sizes, without losing resolution or > >> getting a blocky loo

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Gregory Nutt
We should prefer SVG (or other widely-available and preferably open vector format) because that will allow the logo to be blown up to huge sizes or shrunk down to tiny sizes, without losing resolution or getting a blocky look. Yes! SVG is recommended by W3C and many image editors support it.

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Nathan, On 5/28/20, Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:28 AM Alan Carvalho de Assis > wrote: >> Before we start the pool we need to find a better site to put it, >> confluence will not allow external user to update file to it. > > A GitHub repository? incubator-nuttx-logo? Peo

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 10:28 AM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > Before we start the pool we need to find a better site to put it, > confluence will not allow external user to update file to it. A GitHub repository? incubator-nuttx-logo? People could open pull requests. We should prefer SVG (or

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Exactly! It is written NuttX (not: nuttx, Nuttx, nuttX, NUTTX, etc) Before we start the pool we need to find a better site to put it, confluence will not allow external user to update file to it. BR, Alan On 5/28/20, Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:32 AM Abdelatif Guettouche

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 9:32 AM Abdelatif Guettouche wrote: > > I think David is referring to the ideas given in the attached document, > where NuttX is spelled all upper case (NUTTX) Well I think it should be spelled NuttX. Because as Greg points out: On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 8:40 AM Gregory Nu

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Abdelatif Guettouche
I think David is referring to the ideas given in the attached document, where NuttX is spelled all upper case (NUTTX) On Thu, May 28, 2020, 13:40 Gregory Nutt wrote: > > > > >> Before it's too late, I'd like to pose the question: > >> Is there no-one who prefers NuttX be spelled with lower-case

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Gregory Nutt
Before it's too late, I'd like to pose the question: Is there no-one who prefers NuttX be spelled with lower-case "utt"? That is the way the the registered trademark is spelled.. with lower case utt

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 2:20 AM David Alessio wrote: > Before it's too late, I'd like to pose the question: > Is there no-one who prefers NuttX be spelled with lower-case "utt"? I'm confused by your question: Haven't we been spelling it NuttX? Nathan

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-28 Thread Alin Jerpelea
+1 for the Tshirt idea That can also be our own "uniform" for the next NuttX conference Regards Alin On Thu, May 28, 2020 at 8:20 AM David Alessio wrote: > Before it's too late, I'd like to pose the question: > Is there no-one who prefers NuttX be spelled with lower-case "utt"? > > Respectful

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread David Alessio
Before it's too late, I'd like to pose the question: Is there no-one who prefers NuttX be spelled with lower-case "utt"? Respectfully, -david On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 3:01 PM Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:15 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > > > > > Well, it could be a gift certifi

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 5:15 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > > Well, it could be a gift certificate of some kind. Seems like it must > > be embedded RTOS themed in some way, however. > > > > Or maybe a trophy? > > Better... a T-shirt or hoody with the selected logo on it. That's a neat idea! Natha

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Gregory Nutt
Well, it could be a gift certificate of some kind.  Seems like it must be embedded RTOS themed in some way, however. Or maybe a trophy? Better... a T-shirt or hoody with the selected logo on it.

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Gregory Nutt
A contest is fine, maybe we could even create a pool to purchase a prize... like a nice, high end NuttX board? I would contribute. That would provide more incentive to participate. Let's find out if we can do this. Mentors? Is it allowed? Is there a process we have to follow? I wonder if

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 11:45 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > A contest is fine, maybe we could even create a pool to purchase a > prize... like a nice, high end NuttX board? I would contribute. That would provide more incentive to participate. Let's find out if we can do this. Mentors? Is it allowed?

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Alin Jerpelea
In my opinion there should be a poll (on the same page) so that people can vote the one that they like Thanks Alin On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 9:47 AM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > Good point David! > > I got all logos from PDF and put it publicly visible: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Gregory Nutt
I want to ask a question based on the draft proposals. Are we allowed to think broader? :) For instance, I wonder what the community would think about using a mascot. I am open to that idea myself.. like Linux' penguin?  Such a mascot would need to have wide appeal and acceptance, I think a

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Gregory Nutt
On 5/27/2020 8:53 AM, Nathan Hartman wrote: On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:45 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: The new logo could be viewed online here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/New+Apache+Nuttx+Logo Please give your feedback and suggestoion. Are there any updates on the proposed ne

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Erdem MEYDANLI
I want to ask a question based on the draft proposals. Are we allowed to think broader? :) For instance, I wonder what the community would think about using a mascot. Erdem Gregory Nutt , 27 May 2020 Çar, 16:45 tarihinde şunu yazdı: > > > The new logo could be viewed online here: > > https://cwi

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Wed, May 27, 2020 at 10:45 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > The new logo could be viewed online here: > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/New+Apache+Nuttx+Logo > > Please give your feedback and suggestoion. > > Are there any updates on the proposed new NuttX logos? We stopped > dis

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-05-27 Thread Gregory Nutt
The new logo could be viewed online here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/New+Apache+Nuttx+Logo Please give your feedback and suggestoion. Are there any updates on the proposed new NuttX logos?  We stopped discussing this with no follow through plan. I suppose that with n

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-19 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
On 4/18/20, Gregory Nutt wrote: > >> I think if everybody send it as SVG we couldn't have any issue. And >> because SVG is a common standard all good graphic design software >> supports it. > That is unnecessary. SVG will only be required for the single graphic > that is selected for the logo. I

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Gregory Nutt
I think if everybody send it as SVG we couldn't have any issue. And because SVG is a common standard all good graphic design software supports it. That is unnecessary.  SVG will only be required for the single graphic that is selected for the logo.  It is not needed for any of the others.

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Nathan, I don't think there is a rush to select the logo, we didn't invite the community to contribute yet. On 4/18/20, Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM David Alessio > wrote: > >> I feel strongly about this. "NuttX" preserves the origin of NuttX and >> the >> name of

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Thank you for this information Justin. I think if everybody send it as SVG we couldn't have any issue. And because SVG is a common standard all good graphic design software supports it. On 4/18/20, Justin Mclean wrote: > HI, > > https://apache.org/logos/ prefers svg, eps, ai or pdf. If you submi

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 4:30 PM David Alessio wrote: > I feel strongly about this. "NuttX" preserves the origin of NuttX and the > name of Mr. Gregory Nutt. I think we need a logo that respects both. I also feel strongly about keeping NuttX capitalized like this. Having said so, I don't thin

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Justin Mclean
HI, https://apache.org/logos/ prefers svg, eps, ai or pdf. If you submit something else they will likely vectorise it for you and make them the right size. Central services can also help if it needed. Thanks, Justin

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Brennan, Yes, I was planing to ask Xiang and Alin to submit those logos again as SVG. Alin and Xiang, please resend those logos as SVG format (sorry I don't have Corel, Ilustrator or other). BR, Alan On 4/18/20, Brennan Ashton wrote: > Alan thanks for putting them up. Can we make sure we h

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Brennan Ashton
Alan thanks for putting them up. Can we make sure we have vector files for all of them we will need this in the future. I assume the ones from Hans we do but I am not sure about the others. --Brennan On Sat, Apr 18, 2020, 12:47 AM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > Good point David! > > I got all

RE: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread David Sidrane
+1 -Original Message- From: David Alessio [mailto:david.s.ales...@gmail.com] Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2020 1:30 PM To: dev@nuttx.apache.org Cc: palomino...@gmail.com; 李骁; nand...@xiaomi.com; Hans Subject: Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo I feel strongly about this. "NuttX" pre

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread David Alessio
I feel strongly about this. "NuttX" preserves the origin of NuttX and the name of Mr. Gregory Nutt. I think we need a logo that respects both. On Sat, Apr 18, 2020 at 12:47 AM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > Good point David! > > I got all logos from PDF and put it publicly visible: > > https:

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-18 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Good point David! I got all logos from PDF and put it publicly visible: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/New+Apache+Nuttx+Logo None of those logo respect the original N and X and lowercase utt of NuttX. I think Mr. Greg never enforced it too much, although he almost always wrot

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-13 Thread Brennan Ashton
Xiao Li, Thanks for putting this together! I really like the newer look to it. The old one I really feel is dated, and it is time for something fresh and I appreciate the formal design process that you went through. As for capital letters/mixed case I don't think it should matter to much, you see

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-13 Thread David Alessio
I don’t wish to offend anyone but I object to all options on the basis that “NuttX” should be spelled with capital ‘N’ and ‘X’, lowercase “utt”. Regards, -david Sent from my iPhone > On Apr 13, 2020, at 7:42 PM, Xiang Xiao wrote: > > The new logo could be viewed online here: > https://cwiki.

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-13 Thread Xiang Xiao
The new logo could be viewed online here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NUTTX/New+Apache+Nuttx+Logo Please give your feedback and suggestoion. Thanks Xiang On Tue, Apr 14, 2020 at 5:54 AM Justin Mclean wrote: > > Hi, > > It would be easy to put the image on your wiki / confluence.

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-13 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, It would be easy to put the image on your wiki / confluence. Justin

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-13 Thread John Rippetoe
gmail.com] *Sent:* Monday, April 13, 2020 12:41 AM *To:* Gregory Nutt; priv...@nuttx.apache.org *Cc:* Hans; Justin Mclean; palomino...@gmail.com; 李骁; nand...@xiaomi.com *Subject:* Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo Loop all PMC member. Justin, is private@ list enough for the current discussion, o

Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo

2020-04-13 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
:41 AM >> *To:* Gregory Nutt; priv...@nuttx.apache.org >> *Cc:* Hans; Justin Mclean; palomino...@gmail.com; 李骁; nand...@xiaomi.com >> *Subject:* Re: The new Apache NuttX Logo >> >> >> >> Loop all PMC member. >> Justin, is private@ list enough for the cur