Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Nathan Hartman
That should be in the documentation and also further to my thoughts about the NuttX website, this should be distilled to the essence and mentioned right on the landing page, so people won't have to search through a lot of unfamiliar documentation to find it. Cheers Nathan On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 1

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Alan C. Assis
Hi Michal On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 12:08 PM wrote: > On 2024-07-09 09:49:16, Alan C. Assis wrote: > > I think many people outside our community have a misconception about > NuttX: > > They think it is a Linux/Unix RTOS that needs to have a shell integrated > > into it. > > > > Note that all boards

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Alin Jerpelea
Hi all, in my opinion nsh provides a good familiar feeling for people coming from Linux and may be missleading for many developers that come from bare metal. I think that we should improve the documentation and list all available options with benefits and drawbacks for each option. Best regards

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Saurav Pal
Hi, I agree on a lot of things with Michal (while I can't comment on other things), being almost a beginner to the project (and embedded systems in general) I think my viewpoint can help. Because of the coverage of nsh across videos and documentation, I never knew for sure if nsh was a requirement

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Nathan Hartman
Replies inline below: On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:06 AM wrote: > On 2024-07-09 09:49:16, Alan C. Assis wrote: (snip) > Suggestions about how to proceed to archive it are welcome. > > Probably we will need collective help to archive it for all boards. > > Other problem I've seen is bad (or rathe

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Philippe Leduc
Erf sorry, I messup with my email client... BR, -- Philippe Le 9 juil. 2024 à 16:30, "Alan C. Assis" a écrit :Sorry Nathan, Actually it was Philippe that replied to the incorrect thread :-) BR, Alan On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:29 AM Alan C. Assis wrote: > Thank you for this great feedback

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread michal . lyszczek
On 2024-07-09 17:20:26, Sebastien Lorquet wrote: > On 09/07/2024 17:06, michal.lyszc...@bofc.pl wrote: > > I think I would be good if nuttx had something like /sbin/init that would > > do some very simple service management. Then you could just tick > > "Start NSH after boot up". > > I think you c

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Sebastien Lorquet
Hi, On 09/07/2024 17:06, michal.lyszc...@bofc.pl wrote: I think I would be good if nuttx had something like /sbin/init that would do some very simple service management. Then you could just tick "Start NSH after boot up". I think you can already do this by writing an init app and using that to

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread michal . lyszczek
On 2024-07-09 09:49:16, Alan C. Assis wrote: > I think many people outside our community have a misconception about NuttX: > They think it is a Linux/Unix RTOS that needs to have a shell integrated > into it. > > Note that all boards are required to have a "nsh" board profile, it was a > suggestion

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Alan C. Assis
Sorry Nathan, Actually it was Philippe that replied to the incorrect thread :-) BR, Alan On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:29 AM Alan C. Assis wrote: > Thank you for this great feedback Philippe, but I think it should be at > other thread: > > How to improve/simplify NuttX initialization processes? >

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Alan C. Assis
Thank you for this great feedback Philippe, but I think it should be at other thread: How to improve/simplify NuttX initialization processes? I think Nathan replied to incorrect thread. Please move the discussion to the right thread. BR, Alan On Tue, Jul 9, 2024 at 11:08 AM Philippe Leduc wr

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Philippe Leduc
For the record, we had a hard time understanding why NSH is a VIP citizen and that there are multiple ways of initializing NuttX (https://github.com/apache/nuttx/issues/10821). I agree that the documentation is lacking on this subject, but I still feel that NSH shall be see as a standard userspa

Re: How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Nathan Hartman
Documentation needs to explicitly have two sections: * NuttX without a shell (booting directly into your custom firmware application) * NuttX with a shell: booting into NSH Within NuttX with a shell, we should explain: * Purpose of NSH: * Example of how to program and use many OS features *

How to demystify some myths about NuttX

2024-07-09 Thread Alan C. Assis
Dear NuttXers, I think many people outside our community have a misconception about NuttX: They think it is a Linux/Unix RTOS that needs to have a shell integrated into it. Note that all boards are required to have a "nsh" board profile, it was a suggestion/requirement to confirm that the system