Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-02 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Nathan On Thursday, January 2, 2020, Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:27 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis > wrote: > >> HI Nathan, >> >> On 1/1/20, Nathan Hartman wrote: >> > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis < acas...@gmail.com >> > >> > wrote: >> >> On 1/1/20,

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 7:27 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > HI Nathan, > > On 1/1/20, Nathan Hartman wrote: > > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis > > > wrote: > >> On 1/1/20, Gregory Nutt wrote: > >> > * Brennan has done the Confluence pages, investigated Jira, create

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
HI Nathan, On 1/1/20, Nathan Hartman wrote: > On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis > wrote: >> On 1/1/20, Gregory Nutt wrote: >> > * Brennan has done the Confluence pages, investigated Jira, create >> > the >> > initial workflow page >> > * Nathan have been staying busy

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 1:14 PM Alan Carvalho de Assis wrote: > On 1/1/20, Gregory Nutt wrote: > > * Brennan has done the Confluence pages, investigated Jira, create the > > initial workflow page > > * Nathan have been staying busy with the workflow > > * Abdelatif has been working a lot

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Gregory Nutt
I want to help reviewing the patches and be guided by you to do it well. Thanks, Alan! Imagine if we all tried to dispose on one PR per day.  That would be eleven PRs per day, 77 PRs per week, week could keep up with things without stressing anyone. Of course, it will be even easier when

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Greg, On 1/1/20, Gregory Nutt wrote: > We need to reset the conversation because it has gotten so far off track > that the point has been completely lost. We need to pay attention and > not get distracted by the shiny objects. > > Repeating: > > > > Would it make sense, then, to begin a tran

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Gregory Nutt
Sorry, I misunderstand that you suggest this will be the new workflow. Okay.  No problem.  Although I did feel like I was being attacked from all sides for just trying to make to progress. All discussion of the new workflow is happening here: https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/NU

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2020-01-01 Thread Gregory Nutt
We need to reset the conversation because it has gotten so far off track that the point has been completely lost.  We need to pay attention and not get distracted by the shiny objects. Repeating: > > Would it make sense, then, to begin a transition period now? That is, > > start a gradual move

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, > I don't appreciate a lot of advice and criticism from people who contribute > nothing to this process. > I would try to assume good intent from the people who responded here. You want people to contribute and grow the community, Thanks, Justin

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Xiang Xiao
Sorry, I misunderstand that you suggest this will be the new workflow. I agree that before the new process is ready, your process should continue as before since you have most experience and insight how the whole thing work together. But the committer is growing and most of us don't have that capab

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nutt
That list just documents how I have handled the me-only workflow in the past.  It is not the workflow that is being defined by Nathan and Brennan. I don't appreciate a lot of advice and criticism from people who contribute nothing to this process.  If everyone thinks I can going continue handl

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Xiang Xiao
On Wed, Jan 1, 2020 at 5:09 AM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > > > Would it make sense, then, to begin a transition period now? That is, > > start a gradual move from the current state where Greg is reviewing > > and merging all changes, toward the direction where other committers > > are reviewing/mergin

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 4:50 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > Actually, I think I recommended (through implication) that we should not > use the 'dev' branch, but rather a custom, per-PR branch. A single dev > branch does not work for the reasons I mention above. The worst is that > many people are usin

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Justin Mclean
Hi, Just a couple of comments. > * git push [--force] origin dev I’m not sure this is allowed on Apache repos, the —force that is, push is of course fine. >* Squash merge the change onto the dev branch. History can be lost this way, are you sure you want to do this? Every line of

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
On 12/31/19, Gregory Nutt wrote: > >> The workflow will be improved in the future, but any interim workflow >> will be the same flawed workflow that was used in the Bitbucket >> repositories.. with some tweaks for working together better. >> > I think that the only objective is a short term one:

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nutt
The workflow will be improved in the future, but any interim workflow will be the same flawed workflow that was used in the Bitbucket repositories.. with some tweaks for working together better. I think that the only objective is a short term one:  To keep our heads above water until the pe

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nutt
/* Squash merge the 'dev' branch onto master. The change on master will include both the original PR and your coding style fixes. Again, this assumes you are the only user of dev and another reason to consider using a custom temporary branch./ Thank you for sharing this step-by-step process.

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Alan Carvalho de Assis
Hi Greg and Nathan, On 12/31/19, Gregory Nutt wrote: > >> Would it make sense, then, to begin a transition period now? That is, >> start a gradual move from the current state where Greg is reviewing >> and merging all changes, toward the direction where other committers >> are reviewing/merging c

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nutt
Would it make sense, then, to begin a transition period now? That is, start a gradual move from the current state where Greg is reviewing and merging all changes, toward the direction where other committers are reviewing/merging changes. Perhaps, for the next couple of weeks, Greg could continue

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Nathan Hartman
On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 3:01 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > That was actually necessary. We don't want to build a huge backlog. > > I still have some fears about what is going to happen after the > holidays. My experience is that things pick up slowly after the New > Year.So we have another week

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nutt
That was actually necessary. We don't want to build a huge backlog. I still have some fears about what is going to happen after the holidays.  My experience is that things pick up slowly after the New Year.    So we have another week or so until go back to their normal rates. Even then, I

Re: End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Abdelatif Guettouche
That was actually necessary. We don't want to build a huge backlog. On Tue, Dec 31, 2019 at 1:32 PM Gregory Nutt wrote: > > I propose that I merge all PRs under the "old workflow" so that we can > start the New Year with a clean slate. Let me know if anyone is opposed. > >

End-of-year Clean-up

2019-12-31 Thread Gregory Nutt
I propose that I merge all PRs under the "old workflow" so that we can start the New Year with a clean slate.  Let me know if anyone is opposed.