Re: [DISCUSS] [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
plugin then... perhaps a pseudo-tag option is needed for the release plugin then... On 29 May 2013 13:40, Barrie Treloar wrote: > On 29 May 2013 20:53, Stephen Connolly > wrote: > > The issue with that is when using the Maven Release Plugin, you will not > be > ... > > Can&#

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 30 May 2013, Chris Graham wrote: > What do we currently do for plugins? What do we currently do for core? > Is there in difference in the approach taken? No difference. In each case we currently respin failed votes reusing the version number until we get an actual successful vote.

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
lic version numbers. > > For the same reason, I would recommend offering different approaches to > core/plugins/whatever: let's not complicate things. > > So, to that end, > > -1 (ie respin) for all > > (non binding) > > -Chris > > > > On Thu, May 3

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
pt of immutability, which is a reason NOT to > allow the reuse of numbers; however, that does not appear to have been too > much of a problem up until now. > > -Chris > > > > > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 7:55 PM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com&g

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 30 May 2013 11:38, Fred Cooke wrote: > When I first witnessed the deletion of tags > and re-spinning of versions some months ago it was the most disturbing > thing that's happened to me since I found out that Santa Claus wasn't real. > WHAT THE F*CK!!! Are you suggesting to me that he isn't r

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
;> >> Robert >> >> >> Op Wed, 29 May 2013 15:20:17 +0200 schreef Daniel Kulp > >: >> >> +1 for "qualified" releases (alpha, beta, RC, etc…) that are working >>> toward the full blow release but aren't intended to

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 30 May 2013, Wayne Fay wrote: > On Thu, May 30, 2013 at 4:55 AM, Stephen Connolly <...> wrote: > > > > And I am considering whether I want to change my vote ;-) Nope I'm sticking with +1 no reusing version numbers After Fred pointed out the immutabili

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
You are the release manager. My vote on respinning specifically stated that any releases in progress, the release manager can decide. If it were me I'd call it 3.1.0-beta-1 as we have had enough eyes by now that its better than alpha... I'd also be happy going straight for the 3.1.0 end game... Bu

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1

2013-05-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
h doesn't, to me, constitute any reasonably sized population. I'll roll > it out in the morning. > > On May 30, 2013, at 4:15 PM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > You are the release manager. My vote on respinning specifically stated >

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-31 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 31 May 2013 10:22, James Nord (jnord) wrote: > > This discussion about respins is really strange to me. I've been cutting > > releases, with Maven, at Apache, for years now. And all of them have > reused > > version numbers for respins. And all of them have carefully used staging > > technolog

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-05-31 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 31 May 2013 10:41, James Nord (jnord) wrote: > > -Original Message- > > From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com] > > Sent: 31 May 2013 10:29 > > To: Maven Developers List > > Subject: Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED rele

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1

2013-05-31 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 31 May 2013 12:01, jieryn wrote: > Greetings, > > On Fri, May 31, 2013 at 1:34 AM, Hervé BOUTEMY > wrote: > > I don't know what you mean by "send pull requests to Jenkins", if you're > > talking about Apache's Jenkins instance or something more general from > the > > Jenkins project > > There

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-06-01 Thread Stephen Connolly
I will need to recheck the tally, but I think the result is -3 So looks like we will be reusing version numbers on respins On Wednesday, 29 May 2013, Stephen Connolly wrote: > We have been using a policy of only making releases without skipping > version numbers, e.g. > > 3.0.0,

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-06-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
I will point out that for this specific vote I listed three options and a criteria. So this vote has no vetoes. Simple sum of all binding votes defines the result. If the sum is < -3 then that says majority dont want to burn version numbers. If the sum > +3 then that says the majority want to keep

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-06-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
Now the issue with componentX-1.4 that you wan to test is one that only shows up behind your corporate proxy, and you have a system set up with the failing case and you dare not change anything... So you add the staging repo to your mirror, run the test case, and drop the test artifact from the mi

Re: [VOTE] Should we respin CANCELLED releases with the same version number?

2013-06-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
rning version numbers, and the exception tests (or proves in old English) the rule (Anyway vote is over, so issue is moot. I don't care enough to call a second vote) > (I have yet to come across a scenaro where multiple > users share this ;) > > Kristian > > > 20

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0-alpha-1 (Take 4)

2013-06-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 (binding) On 1 June 2013 14:13, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Here are the release bits for 3.1.0-alpha-1: > > Release notes: > > https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10500&version=18967 > > Staging repository: > https://repository.apache.org/content/repositories/maven-046/ >

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Surefire Plugin version 2.15

2013-06-09 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Friday, 7 June 2013, Andreas Gudian wrote: > Hi, > > This is my first release, so please check carefully what I may have missed > :). > > We solved 16 issues: > > https://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=10541&version=19174 > > This is the first release that does not support

Re: Fwd: Maven plugin trademarks [Re: Downloading a file for shipping in an artifact]

2013-06-18 Thread Stephen Connolly
relocation pom will not work for plugins... (we maybe should look into that though) Simplest is just to move to the new ID and tell your users to change... that's what jetty did On 18 June 2013 16:00, Christian Schulte wrote: > >> Perhaps we are at the point where we should start breaking buil

Re: Fwd: Maven plugin trademarks [Re: Downloading a file for shipping in an artifact]

2013-06-18 Thread Stephen Connolly
... is even better, in that it works. That is the only functional way in a > large organisation, and I believe the maven community can be perceived as > such. > > > > 2013/6/18 Christian Schulte > > > Am 06/18/13 17:32, schrieb Stephen Connolly: > > > relocation

Re: Download links for source packages - where are they?

2013-06-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Wednesday, 26 June 2013, Barrie Treloar wrote: > On 26 June 2013 18:44, sebb > wrote: > > Howewer the ASF releases source. > > If you don't provide a download link to the source how are users > > supposed to find it? > > > > I agree that most people are not going to want to download the origina

Re: Release process updates

2013-06-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Friday, 28 June 2013, Fred Cooke wrote: > For git the unique hash is sufficient, you don't really need the tag at > all, they simply point to the unique hash (or another tag, in a chain). If > Git was the SCM of choice, I'd use RCX tags, and then not retag for final, > but rather point the fina

Re: [VOTE] Release Maven Enforcer version 1.3 (take 2)

2013-06-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Sunday, 30 June 2013, sebb wrote: > On 29 June 2013 11:47, Robert Scholte > > wrote: > > Hi Sebb, > > > > none of these files will end up in Maven Central, they are all used for > > tests. > > However, they do end up in the source release which is published via > the ASF mirrors. > It's vital t

Re: Unique Git coordinates (was: Release process updates (try 2))

2013-06-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Sunday, 30 June 2013, sebb wrote: > On 30 June 2013 21:56, Fred Cooke > > wrote: > >> > >> OK, so what is the Git command to download a copy of the sources that > >> > > are part of the hash? > >> > > > > git checkout > > Does not work for me. Until I hear otherwise, the reviewers for whom t

Re: Release process updates (try 2)

2013-07-01 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Monday, 1 July 2013, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > Guys, even if not convinced this is really useful, > I suppose voting template could just be adjusted so that the sha1 > or svn revision be added in the VOTE thread, and then get back to code as > usual? +1 > > As it is just a 5 seconds additional

Re: svn commit: r1498969 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md

2013-07-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
Anyone who has suggestions for improvements or additional content, please shout out or commit your changes... The aim is to let people understand the different roles and responsibilities in the Maven community On 2 July 2013 16:13, wrote: > Author: stephenc > Date: Tue Jul 2 15:13:59 2013 > N

Re: svn commit: r1498969 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md

2013-07-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
block - assuming they make sense for the current sentence structure. On 3 July 2013 10:17, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2013/7/3 Stephen Connolly : > > Anyone who has suggestions for improvements or additional content, please > > shout out or commit your changes... > > > &g

Re: svn commit: r1498969 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md

2013-07-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 3 July 2013 11:39, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2013/7/3 Stephen Connolly : > > It is important, but it interrupts the flow of the sentence. It is good > > english to put interruptions in a subordinate clause so that the reader > > knows to skip them in making sense of the

Re: svn commit: r1498969 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md

2013-07-03 Thread Stephen Connolly
s they say, with great power comes great responsibility. :-) > > -Chris > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 03/07/2013, at 8:12 PM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > It is important, but it interrupts the flow of the sentence. It is goo

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
I have asked the legal-discuss list for an opinion on test data sets and license headers. From my reading of the current ASF position: http://www.apache.org/legal/src-headers.html#faq-exceptions we do not currently have an exception for test data sets. Pending the outcome of that discussion I will

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 4 July 2013 12:32, sebb wrote: > On 4 July 2013 11:05, Stephen Connolly > wrote: > > I have asked the legal-discuss list for an opinion on test data sets and > > license headers. From my reading of the current ASF position: > > http://www.apache.org/legal/src-header

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 4 July 2013 13:14, sebb wrote: > On 4 July 2013 12:52, Stephen Connolly > wrote: > > On 4 July 2013 12:32, sebb wrote: > > > >> On 4 July 2013 11:05, Stephen Connolly > > >> wrote: > >> > I have asked the legal-discuss list for an opi

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
s. If we know what it should be like then we might as > well just do it, as it's likely to take less time than asking if an > exception can be made. > > I can cancel the vote. Make the changes you think are required for > compliance and I'll cut it again. &g

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
testing the distribution tomorrow unless this vote gets cancelled ;-) - Stephen On Thursday, 4 July 2013, Jason van Zyl wrote: > Fair enough. > > On Jul 4, 2013, at 8:59 AM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I will let Barrie decide on

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-04 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Thursday, 4 July 2013, sebb wrote: > On 4 July 2013 20:35, Stephen Connolly > > > wrote: > > I am withdrawing my -1 on the basis of the feedback I have received from > > legal-discuss. > > The question to legal-discuss was specifically about test data, not

Re: [VOTE] Apache Maven War plugin 2.4

2013-07-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 5 July 2013 14:32, sebb wrote: > On 5 July 2013 12:48, Olivier Lamy wrote: > > Hi, > > I'd like to release Apache Maven War Plugin 2.4. > > > > We fixed 10 issue > > > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?version=18840&styleName=Text&projectId=11150 > > > > Staging repository: > h

Re: [VOTE] Apache Maven War plugin 2.4

2013-07-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 5 July 2013 14:43, Stephen Connolly wrote: > On 5 July 2013 14:32, sebb wrote: > >> On 5 July 2013 12:48, Olivier Lamy wrote: >> > Hi, >> > I'd like to release Apache Maven War Plugin 2.4. >> > >> > We fixed 10 issue >> > >

Re: [VOTE] Apache Maven War plugin 2.4

2013-07-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 5 July 2013 14:52, sebb wrote: > On 5 July 2013 14:43, Stephen Connolly wrote: > > On 5 July 2013 14:32, sebb wrote: > > > >> On 5 July 2013 12:48, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >> > Hi, > >> > I'd like to release Apache Maven War Plugin 2.

Re: [VOTE] Apache Maven War plugin 2.4

2013-07-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 5 July 2013 14:56, sebb wrote: > On 5 July 2013 14:46, Stephen Connolly wrote: > > On 5 July 2013 14:43, Stephen Connolly wrote: > > > >> On 5 July 2013 14:32, sebb wrote: > >> > >>> On 5 July 2013 12:48, Olivier Lamy wrote: > >>>

Re: Spurious file in Apache Maven War plugin 2.4 reelease candidate - broken release process?

2013-07-07 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Sunday, 7 July 2013, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > I understand the issue but for me all that problems will never disappear if > we don't find a solution to automate the process. > Yes PMCs (and devs) are responsible to do various controls as you mentioned > but I suppose that we aren't different to

Re: Java version compatibility

2013-07-08 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 8 July 2013 09:23, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > Hi, > > Last night I introduced by error a dependency requiring Java 6 in the > archetype plugin whereas we are always supposed to support Java 5 (Yes we > can :-) ) > Myself I don't have anymore a Java 5 on my computer and I'm often using > Java

Re: Java version compatibility

2013-07-08 Thread Stephen Connolly
lly by committers (and CI?) or > in the release profile > Something to add at which level ? plugins parent ? maven parent ? > > > On Mon, Jul 8, 2013 at 10:52 AM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 8 July 2013 09:2

Re: git commit: upgrade to rat:0.9 and defensively prepare for maven-parent 24

2013-07-08 Thread Stephen Connolly
s.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/commit/50a24e54 > > Tree: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/tree/50a24e54 > > Diff: http://git-wip-us.apache.org/repos/asf/maven/diff/50a24e54 > > > > Branch: refs/heads/master > > Commit: 50a24e5418a5eecfec5caa2502c59be3b

Re: [VOTE] Apache 3.1.0

2013-07-10 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On 4 July 2013 20:35, Stephen Connolly wrote: > I am withdrawing my -1 on the basis of the feedback I have received from > legal-discuss. > > My vote is now +0 as I have not tested the distribution and I am waiting > for somebody else on the PMC to do the running and make a

Re: Next release for master

2013-07-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
Remember folks, we are CTR not RTC so we shouldn't be holding up getting stuff done On Monday, 15 July 2013, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > I think we won't debate a lot :-) > Pushed > > > On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 10:02 PM, Hervé BOUTEMY > > >wrote: > > > +1 > > > > Regards, > > > > Hervé > > > > Le l

Re: Log4j2/Logback integration updates

2013-07-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
So what I am hearing is that until we bump core to require JDK6 (or 7) then logback is the only runner from a technical point of view (never mind that log4j2 is still not GA) OTOH I would be interested in bumping JDK all the way to 7 if we were happy that toolchains is good enough and we had tests

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
Given that Oracle have stated they will be more aggressive in forcing people to upgrade, eg -target (and I think -source too) will not got all the way down to 1.2 any more from JDK8 IIRC, we will need to sort out a few things: - is toolchains the way to go? - have we good test coverage with toolc

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-15 Thread Stephen Connolly
As long as surefire can fork down to 1.5 and as long as tool chains can compile with 1.5, the only issue I can see is if the development environments where these older JVMs are running do not have newer JDKs available also. This is the same issue we face in the Jenkins project, were we are (consid

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Connolly
I've put a question on Stack Overflow: http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17671899/when-is-java-6-end-of-life-in-the-context-of-writing-developer-toolsto see if we can get something that is a bit more focus on facts. e.g. we are all OSS developers: thus premium/extended/sustaining support contract

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Connolly
egory Nyberg, and Philip Aston > with Josh Bregman and Paul Done > Book Home Page: http://www.wrox.com/ > Kindle Version: http://www.amazon.com/ > > > > -Original Message- > From: Stephen Connolly [mailto:stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com] > Sent: Tuesday, July 16,

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Connolly
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Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 16 July 2013 21:52, Kristian Rosenvold wrote: > Look you chickens; until quite recently I kept a 1.3 JVM running on > windows to do the occasional > test of surefire on jdk 1.3. (I kept a vmware image since installing 1.3 > on linux required surrendering your first born to Sauron) All your > c

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > > > > > > > Until Jenkins gets upgraded to 1.520+ at which point the (crappy in my > > personal view) Maven job type will be unable to run 1.5 > > > > > The crappy one which doesn't work with Maven 3.1.0 too (I tested it this > afternoon) > I'm su

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-16 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 16 July 2013 23:25, Barrie Treloar wrote: > On 17 July 2013 07:31, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > >> Can still keep trucking with a FreeStyle + Maven Build Step though (and > I > >> prefer that way anyway) > >> > >> > > > > Me too if we backport features from the crappy maven integration into the

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-17 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 17 July 2013 10:09, Olivier Lamy wrote: > 2013/7/17 Olivier Lamy : > > 2013/7/17 Stephen Connolly : > >> On 16 July 2013 23:01, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > >> > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > Until Jenkins gets upgraded to

Re: Java version usage survey

2013-07-17 Thread Stephen Connolly
which won't be soon for many of them > (Myself I'm using the latest really stable one : the 1.480 LTS) > > > On Wed, Jul 17, 2013 at 11:31 AM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 17 July 2013 10:09, Olivier Lamy wrote: >

Re: Maven 3.1 - Stable ?

2013-07-18 Thread Stephen Connolly
Why is 3.1.0 labelled as 3.1.0-alpha-1 (and why have we two 3.1.0-alpha-1 labels... I expect the same answer) On 17 July 2013 21:01, Hervé BOUTEMY wrote: > Le mercredi 17 juillet 2013 14:13:38 Paul Benedict a écrit : > > Is 3.0.5 still the preferred version? I ask because the right-hand aside >

Re: Maven 3.1.0 class loading error with Swagger Maven Plugin

2013-07-18 Thread Stephen Connolly
If it's not in JIRA it doesn't exist On 18 July 2013 17:18, sebb wrote: > On 18 July 2013 16:35, Arnaud Héritier wrote: > > There are open issues with the detail of changes to do ? > > Create N&L files for the top-level of SCM. > As the source archive must be created from SCM, these N&L files

Re: Maven 3.1.0 class loading error with Swagger Maven Plugin

2013-07-18 Thread Stephen Connolly
http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MNG On 18 July 2013 17:39, sebb wrote: > Which JIRA would that be? > > On 18 July 2013 17:24, Stephen Connolly > wrote: > > If it's not in JIRA it doesn't exist > > > > > > On 18 July 2013 17:18, sebb wrote: &

Re: [VOTE] Retire Maven Model Converter

2013-07-21 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On Saturday, 20 July 2013, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi, > > The only consumer of Maven Model Converter we have left at the Apache > Maven project is Maven One Plugin. If the vote for the retirement of > Maven One Plugin succeeds we should also retire Maven Model Converter. > The last release w

Re: Do we document the protocol with the repo manager? And what about deploy:deploy-file and multiple attached artifacts?

2013-07-21 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Sunday, 21 July 2013, Benson Margulies wrote: > On Sun, Jul 21, 2013 at 1:52 PM, Robert Scholte > > >wrote: > > > Hi Benson, > > > > I don't understand, because deploy:deploy-file should be able to upload > > pom + artifact + classified-artifacts at once. > > > > There's no provision for uplo

Re: RAT setup

2013-07-21 Thread Stephen Connolly
Revert my change upping to RAT 0.9 Stupid plugin has major regression in performance, but 0.8 needs excludes for git If I'd had notice I'd have reverted it my self but on a phone so no access to revert it... Once they get a proper usable release we *should* be ok... Though they don't seem to know

Re: [VOTE] All new (non-patch) releases of Maven Core after 30th Sep 2013 to require Java 6+

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 (binding) On 23 July 2013 14:59, Stephen Connolly wrote: > This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven Core. > > Maven Plugins produced by the Apache Maven Project that are flagged as > compatible with older versions of Maven Core as their baselin

[VOTE] All new (non-patch) releases of Maven Core after 30th Sep 2013 to require Java 6+

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven Core. Maven Plugins produced by the Apache Maven Project that are flagged as compatible with older versions of Maven Core as their baseline will still require to stick to the minimum Java requirements of that Maven Core version.

[DISCUSS] All new (non-patch) releases of Maven Core after 30th Sep 2013 to require Java 6+

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 23 July 2013 15:29, Lennart Jörelid wrote: > +1000 which is a rather odd number for a vote; blame Stephen instead > of me. :) > > I think we can skip the 1.6 release of the JDK as a Maven basis; JDK 1.6 is > at or near EOL and the step from one > minimum JDK version to another (i.e. JD

Re: [VOTE] All new (non-patch) releases of Maven Core after 30th Sep 2013 to require Java 6+

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Michael-O <1983-01...@gmx.net> wrote: > Am 2013-07-23 15:59, schrieb Stephen Connolly: > >> This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven Core. >> >> > Given than most companies/folks react only when something has

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven IDEA Plugin version 2.2.1

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On Tuesday, 23 July 2013, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi, > > This is the final release of this plugin. After this release it will > be retired, see separate vote thread for more info on that. > > We solved 1 issue: > > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11135&styleName=Ht

Re: [VOTE] All new (non-patch) releases of Maven Core after 30th Sep 2013 to require Java 6+

2013-07-23 Thread Stephen Connolly
The split verifier should improve cli performance once core and most plugins are on -target 1.6 Any committer is free to call a vote to up the minimum to 1.7 if they want to. >From a build tool perspective there are some advantages in 1.6 as a baseline (compiler api, scripting api, split verifier

Re: Passing information between goals

2013-07-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
This is generally a tad tricky. 1. Because of class unloading it may not be possible to use the Hack-type solution of stashing the data in a Class level static field. Though that solution will work as long as the field uses a collection type that allows for GC when the MavenProject that it is cach

Re: Passing information between goals

2013-07-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
that for build-helper. It was for many executions of the > same mojo though, not sure how it behaves with different mojos. > See > > http://mojo.10943.n7.nabble.com/build-helper-m-p-thread-safety-issue-td39561.htmland > the ReserveListenerPortMojo > > My 2 cents. > >

Re: Passing information between goals

2013-07-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
t serializing the information somewhere in the > ${project.build.directory} folder? > > Are there any issues I should aware of if I implement this solution? > > > 2013/7/24 Stephen Connolly > > > Ahh yes... that's the one... I spent 3-5 min searching for it. > > >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Model Converter version 2.3

2013-07-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On 23 July 2013 20:45, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi, > > This will be the final release of this shared component. After this > release it will retire from the Apache Maven project and move to the > Apache Archiva project. See separate vote thread about that. > > We solved 6 issues: > > http:/

Re: [DISCUSS] Moving unreleased shared components to the sandbox

2013-07-24 Thread Stephen Connolly
I'm all for it On 24 July 2013 23:06, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi > > I've been going through our shared components making sure they all > follow ASF branding rules. While doing this I became curious about a > couple of the components that seemed alien to me. It turns out that of > our 30 share

[DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
k and white... The answer can be grey... And everyone is human so can make mistakes... So community, what are you expecting? - Stephen Connolly On Thursday, 25 July 2013, wrote: > Author: jdcasey > Date: Wed Jul 24 23:21:58 2013 > New Revision: 1506778 > > URL: http://svn.apach

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
; As a Maven user I think that everybody who is working on a project should > > behave the same. Hence, I would say, PMC members should rather certainly > > demonstrate how to live the community rules. > > > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht- > > Von: Stephen Connolly [

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
s us back to what does the community expect from its PMC? > I ask rhetorically, > to solicit answers, of course... and I see where this is going and what > historical processes within Maven are being addressed. > > > On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:05 PM, Stephen Connolly < > ste

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 25 July 2013 22:34, Nigel Magnay wrote: > > > > > > Should the PMC encourage people experimenting on new improvements to > Maven > > to do that work at the ASF? And if so, should they then practice what > they > > preach, and ensure that any experiments with Maven take place on the ASF > > SCM

Re: [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave (was Re: svn commit: r1506778 - /maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md)

2013-07-25 Thread Stephen Connolly
fics about specific individuals. > > Fred. > > On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 12:07 AM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 25 July 2013 22:34, Nigel Magnay wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Should th

[RESULT] [VOTE] All new (non-patch) releases of Maven Core after 30th Sep 2013 to require Java 6+

2013-07-26 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 23 July 2013 14:59, Stephen Connolly wrote: > This vote is to cover the minimum required version of Java for Maven Core. > > Maven Plugins produced by the Apache Maven Project that are flagged as > compatible with older versions of Maven Core as their baseline will still > requ

[ANN] New release lines of Apache Maven after 30th Sep 2013 will require Java 6 or newer

2013-07-27 Thread Stephen Connolly
://maven.apache.org/guides/mini/guide-using-toolchains.html which can be used to simplify using a different JDK for compiling and running unit tests. Thank you. -Stephen Connolly on behalf of the Maven Developers.

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven One Plugin version 1.3

2013-07-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On 27 July 2013 22:25, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi, > > We solved 4 issues: > > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11241&styleName=Html&version=13719 > > There are still a couple of issues left in JIRA: > > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/IssueNavigator.jspa?reset=tru

Re: Release Maven 3.1.1

2013-07-28 Thread Stephen Connolly
On Sunday, 28 July 2013, Robert Scholte wrote: > Hi, > > Personally I'm not a huge fan of the release-model as done by Jenkins, > meaning releasing once or twice a week with only a few fixes. I am a really big fan of this model... But it won't work the same for Maven... Where the model falls do

Strange handling of + in version portion of GAV

2013-07-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
http://repo.jenkins-ci.org/releases/org/jenkins-ci/plugins/build-monitor-plugin/1.0+build.14/ Has anyone noticed that we don't seem to be encoding the + character when mapping GAV to URL?

Re: Release Maven 3.1.1

2013-07-29 Thread Stephen Connolly
And we haven't had the vote thread yet... so still time for rot13:froo to chime in again! On 29 July 2013 15:06, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > 2013/7/29 Fred Cooke > > > On Mon, Jul 29, 2013 at 3:57 PM, Baptiste MATHUS wrote: > > > >> 2013/7/29 Fred Cooke > >> > >> > Tag deleted? :-/ > >> > > >>

Re: Rationale behind non-standard dependency scopes

2013-07-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
I find the lure of the custom scopes to be a siren's call. There are maybe 2-3 "missing" scopes. all other needs are better addressed with a different project structure in my view. We have the separation between test and non-test... but test is an all or nothing... need the symmetry between the n

Re: Rationale behind non-standard dependency scopes

2013-07-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
on. The "exported" transitive dependencies will fit neatly into the existing scopes, but you would like a simplified *build time* configuration? > 2013/7/30 Stephen Connolly : > > I find the lure of the custom scopes to be a siren's call. > > > > There are maybe

Re: Rationale behind non-standard dependency scopes

2013-07-30 Thread Stephen Connolly
question for plugins, IMHO On 30 July 2013 15:39, Francesco Mari wrote: > Correct. I don't want to duplicate the configuration twice, the first > time in my plugin and the second time in the section to > let Maven correctly compute the build plan. > > 2013/7/30 Stephen Conno

Re: $PROJECT_NAME - Build # $BUILD_NUMBER - $BUILD_STATUS

2013-07-31 Thread Stephen Connolly
This looks to be https://builds.apache.org/job/maven-indexer going to Failed... somebody needs to fix the $DEFAULT_CONTENT in the editable email template as a token parse error is rendering email notification kind of useless On 31 July 2013 12:24, Apache Jenkins Server wrote: > The Apache Jenkin

[DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
I have updated the project-roles with my thoughts resulting from the healthy debate on the list and some debates elsewhere. If anyone wants to look at the resulting Work In Progress document as a whole: http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-roles.md?revision=150959

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
ly the core of the concerns... the extra diligence required to > consume large bodies of work is bigger. That doesn't mean that code > contributions are inherently bad just because they were developed > elsewhere, it's just harder to pull in. > Correct. > > On Fri,

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
Committers... but keep in mind that none of us enjoy that!!! > > Regards, > Curtis > > P.S. For those interested, Stephen's changes are more clear when reading > the side-by-side diff: > > http://svn.apache.org/viewvc/maven/site/trunk/content/markdown/project-rol

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 2 August 2013 16:32, Paul Benedict wrote: > Furthermore, I'd like to see explicit procedural rules on Maven Core and > forking. For example, if there's a critical component needing development > for Core, and a PMC expresses that such development will be done outside of > Apache and then used

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
pment outside of Apache. The vote > would lead to a consensus, no? > > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 10:41 AM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On 2 August 2013 16:32, Paul Benedict wrote: > > > > > Furthermore, I'd like

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
ther. The > other OSS community has other committers, other mailing lists, other > deliberations, etc. Community work and input becomes marginalized here. > > Does this make sense to you? That kind of community-splitting effort needs > to stop and that's what I am trying to ad

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-02 Thread Stephen Connolly
ted anywhere? I searched but > failed. > > I assume Cat A = permissive and Cat B = copyleft? or? > > On Fri, Aug 2, 2013 at 6:54 PM, Stephen Connolly < > stephen.alan.conno...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Correct. And it would be subject to the same CTR and potential veto if &

Re: [DISCUSS] On the Maven PMC roles... (was [DISCUSS] Should the Maven PMC be an example of how we want the Maven Community to behave...)

2013-08-05 Thread Stephen Connolly
- Stephen On Friday, 2 August 2013, Stephen Connolly wrote: > On 2 August 2013 16:07, Brian Fox 'cvml', 'bri...@infinity.nu');>> wrote: > >> I think the bulk of this is pretty good. On the fork section, >> specifically: >> >> " >&

Re: maven-scm-provider-jgit

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 8 August 2013 02:12, Olivier Lamy wrote: > mvn clean install -pl :maven-scm-provider-jgit -am works on my mac

Re: svn access

2013-08-08 Thread Stephen Connolly
http://javaadventure.blogspot.ie/2012/07/do-you-want-to-become-maven-committer.html On 8 August 2013 01:37, Jigar Joshi wrote: > I want to check in some code in maven > > How can I have svn access > > Thanks! > Jigar >

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Mapping version 1.0

2013-08-14 Thread Stephen Connolly
+1 On 11 August 2013 00:09, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > Hi, > > This is a new shared component consisting of code from Maven WAR > Plugin, that has been repackaged for reuse by other plugins. > > We solved 1 issues: > > http://jira.codehaus.org/secure/ReleaseNote.jspa?projectId=11761&styleName=Htm

Re: [VOTE] Release Apache Maven Model Converter version 2.3

2013-08-14 Thread Stephen Connolly
On 14 August 2013 09:47, sebb wrote: > On 13 August 2013 18:58, Dennis Lundberg wrote: > > On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 12:30 AM, sebb wrote: > >> On 12 August 2013 20:10, Jason van Zyl wrote: > >>> > > > > I have now read the threads that are referring to, and have not found > > a sing

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