Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-09-09 Thread
Thank you very much for the good news ! On Mon, Sep 9, 2024 at 4:26 PM P.F. ZHAN wrote: > We are preparing the manual of Kylin 5.0.0, it will be released in this > week. > > On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 11:58 AM Nam Đỗ Duy (KCN, AI&CNDL) > wrote: > > > Dear Sir/Madam > > > > Have a good day! > > > >

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-09-09 Thread P.F. ZHAN
We are preparing the manual of Kylin 5.0.0, it will be released in this week. On Fri, Aug 23, 2024 at 11:58 AM Nam Đỗ Duy (KCN, AI&CNDL) wrote: > Dear Sir/Madam > > Have a good day! > > May I ask about the progress of releasing The GA of Kylin5 ? > > Thank you and best regards > > On Thu, Mar 14

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-08-22 Thread
Dear Sir/Madam Have a good day! May I ask about the progress of releasing The GA of Kylin5 ? Thank you and best regards On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:51 AM Li Yang wrote: > Nam, > > We are planning to release a kylin5-beta around March or April. The GA of > kylin5 would be around July this year

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-03-17 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you Li Yang, I think the development of version 5 would be hard work for you but the impact is big so please keep me posted! All the best On Thu, Mar 14, 2024 at 10:51 AM Li Yang wrote: > Nam, > > We are planning to release a kylin5-beta around March or April. The GA of > kylin5 would be

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-03-13 Thread Li Yang
Nam, We are planning to release a kylin5-beta around March or April. The GA of kylin5 would be around July this year if everything goes well. Cheers Yang On Tue, Mar 5, 2024 at 6:54 PM Nam Đỗ Duy wrote: > Hello Xiaoxiang, > > How are you, my boss is very interested in Kylin 5. so he would like

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-03-05 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Hello Xiaoxiang, How are you, my boss is very interested in Kylin 5. so he would like to know when Kylin 5 will be released...could you please provide an estimation? Thank you very much and best regards On Thu, 18 Jan 2024 at 10:05 Nam Đỗ Duy wrote: > Good morning Xiaoxiang, hope you are w

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2024-01-17 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Good morning Xiaoxiang, hope you are well 1. JDBC source is a feature which in development, it will be supported later. === May I know when will the JDBC be available? as well as is there any change in Kylin 5 release date Thank you and best regards On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 2:15 PM

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-10 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you very much, please kindly start kylin-kerberos document and JDBC connectivity, we will be actively participating in testing that JDBC when it is available so please let us know. Best regards On Mon, Dec 11, 2023 at 2:15 PM Xiaoxiang Yu wrote: > 1. JDBC source is a feature which in deve

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-10 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
1. JDBC source is a feature which in development, it will be supported later. 2. Kylin supports kerberos now, I will write a doc as soon as possible. (I will let you know.) 3. I think ranger and Kerberos are not doing the same things, one for authentication, one for authorization. So they cannot

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-08 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you Xiaoxiang for your reply - Do you have any suggestions/wishes for kylin 5(except real-time feature)? - Yes: please answer to help me clear this headache: 1. Can Kylin access the existing star schema in Oracle datawarehouse ? If not then do we have any work around

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-07 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
I guess the release date should be 2024/01 . Do you have any suggestions/wishes for kylin 5(except real-time feature)? With warm regard Xiaoxiang Yu On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:44 PM Nam Đỗ Duy wrote: > Thank you very much xiaoxiang, I did the presentation this morning a

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-06 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you very much xiaoxiang, I did the presentation this morning already so there is no time for you to comment. Next time I will send you in advance. The meeting result was that we will implement both druid and kylin in the next couple of projects because of its realtime feature. Hope that kylin

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-06 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
Since 2018 there are a lot of new features and code refactor. If you like, you can share your ppt to me privately, maybe I can give some comments. Here is the reference of advantages of Kylin since 2018: - https://kylin.apache.org/blog/2022/01/12/The-Future-Of-Kylin/ - https://kylin.apache.org/blo

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-06 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Hi Xiaoxiang, tomorrow is the main presentation between Kylin and Druid in my team. I found this article and would like you to update me the advantages of Kylin since 2018 until now (especially with version 5 to be released) Apache Kylin | Why did Meituan develop Kylin On Druid (part 1 of 2)?

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-05 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you very much for your prompt response, I still have several questions to seek for your help later. Best regards and have a good day On Wed, Dec 6, 2023 at 9:11 AM Xiaoxiang Yu wrote: > Done. Github branch changed to kylin5. > > > With warm regard > Xiaoxiang Yu

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-05 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
Done. Github branch changed to kylin5. With warm regard Xiaoxiang Yu On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 11:13 AM Xiaoxiang Yu wrote: > A JIRA ticket has been opened, waiting for INFRA : > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25238 . > > With warm r

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-04 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
A JIRA ticket has been opened, waiting for INFRA : https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-25238 . With warm regard Xiaoxiang Yu On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 10:30 AM Nam Đỗ Duy wrote: > Thank you Xiaoxiang, please update me when you have changed your default > branch. I

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-04 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you Xiaoxiang, please update me when you have changed your default branch. In case people are impressed by the numbers then I hope to turn this situation to reverse direction. On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:02 AM Xiaoxiang Yu wrote: > The default branch is for 4.X which is a maintained branch, t

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-04 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
The default branch is for 4.X which is a maintained branch, the active branch is kylin5. I will change the default branch to kylin5 later. With warm regard Xiaoxiang Yu On Tue, Dec 5, 2023 at 9:12 AM Nam Đỗ Duy wrote: > Hi Xiaoxiang, Sirs / Madams > > Can you see the

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-04 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
I think so. Response time is not the only factor to make a decision. Kylin could be cheaper when the query pattern is suitable for the Kylin model, and Kylin can guarantee reasonable query latency. Clickhouse will be quicker in an ad hoc query scenario. By the way, Youzan and Kyligence combine th

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-04 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Hi Xiaoxiang, thank you In case my client uses cloud computing service like gcp or aws, which will cost more: precalculation feature of kylin or clickhouse (incase of kylin, I have a thought that the query execution has been done once and stored in cube to be used many times so kylin uses less clo

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-03 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
Following text is part of an article(https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/343394287) . === Kylin is suitable for aggregation queries with fixed modes because of its pre-calculated technology, for example, join, group by, and wher

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-03 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Thank you Xiaoxiang for the near real time streaming feature. That's great. This morning there has been a new challenge to my team: clickhouse offered us the speed of calculating 8 billion rows in millisecond which is faster than my demonstration (I used Kylin to do calculating 1 billion rows in 2

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-03 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
1. "In this important scenario of realtime analytics, the reason here is that kylin has lag time due to model update of new segment build, is that correct?" You are correct. 2. "If that is true, then can you suggest a work-around of combination of ... " Kylin is planning to introduce NRT streami

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-12-03 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Druid is better in - Have a real-time datasource like Kafka etc. == Hi Xiaoxiang, thank you for your response. In this important scenario of realtime alalytics, the reason here is that kylin has lag time due to model update of new segment build, is that correct? If that

Re: Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-11-30 Thread Xiaoxiang Yu
I researched and tested Druid two years ago(I don't know too much about the change of Druid in these two years. New features that I know are : new UI, fully on K8s etc). Here are some cases you should consider using Druid other than Kylin at the moment (using Kylin 5.0-beta to compare the Druid w

Pinot/Kylin/Druid quick comparision

2023-11-30 Thread Nam Đỗ Duy
Dear Xiaoxiang, Sirs/Madams, May I post my boss's question: What are the pros and cons of the OLAP platform Kylin compared to Pinot and Druid? Please kindly let me know Thank you very much and best regards