Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-10-16 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Did a partial review, left one comment on the PR. We need another pair of eyes on this for sure. On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 AM Alex Plehanov wrote: > Hello guys, > > > I've implemented affinity awareness support for java thin client [1]. There > is only client-side affected by the patch. Can

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-10-16 Thread Alex Plehanov
Hello guys, I've implemented affinity awareness support for java thin client [1]. There is only client-side affected by the patch. Can anyone review the change? 1: https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/IGNITE-11898 ср, 13 мар. 2019 г. в 22:54, Pavel Tupitsyn : > Default value for boolean is

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-13 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Default value for boolean is false, and I though we'll have the feature enabled by default. But I agree with you. Let's disable by default and name the config property EnableAffinityAwareness. On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:52 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > For the "false" I mean "disable" here. > > BTW, I

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-13 Thread Igor Sapego
For the "false" I mean "disable" here. BTW, I believe we should name this parameter in a positive way: EnableAffinityAwareness, not disable. Best Regards, Igor On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 12:50 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Well, yes, this looks like a simplest solution. Let's implement it for the > be

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-13 Thread Igor Sapego
Well, yes, this looks like a simplest solution. Let's implement it for the beginning and set this feature to "false" by default, as this feature looks complex, probably error-prone, and should be considered in a "beta" state for the first release. Best Regards, Igor On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 8:04

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-11 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
My suggestion is a boolean flag in client configuration: DisableAffinityAwareness And use old random/round-robin behavior with only one active connection. On Mon, Mar 11, 2019 at 1:36 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Pavel, > > That's right. Do you have other suggestions or objections? > > Best Regards,

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-11 Thread Igor Sapego
Pavel, That's right. Do you have other suggestions or objections? Best Regards, Igor On Fri, Mar 8, 2019 at 11:37 AM Pavel Tupitsyn wrote: > > maxConnectionNumber parameter > What's the idea? Follow the Best Effor Affinity logic, but establish up to > N connections? > > On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 a

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-08 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
> maxConnectionNumber parameter What's the idea? Follow the Best Effor Affinity logic, but establish up to N connections? On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:23 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > I can propose two improvements here: > > 1. A simple one. Lets introduce maxConnectionNumber parameter > in ClientConfigu

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-07 Thread Igor Sapego
I can propose two improvements here: 1. A simple one. Lets introduce maxConnectionNumber parameter in ClientConfiguration. As it is easy to implement it may be introduced together with the new feature to give user an additional control. 2. Asynchronous connection establishment. In this case start

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-03-06 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Hi, I'm in progress of implementing this IEP for Ignite.NET, and I have concerns about the following: > On thin client startup it connects to all nodes provided by client configuration Should we, at least, make this behavior optional? One of the benefits of thin client is quick startup/connect

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-14 Thread Igor Sapego
Guys, I've updated the IEP page [1] once again. Please, pay attention to sections Cache affinity mapping acquiring (4.a, format of Cache Partitions Request) and Changes to cache operations with single key (3 and 4, algorithm). Long story short, I've decided to add some additional data to Cache Pa

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Looks good to me. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 6:30 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > I've updated IEP page: [1] > > What do you think now? To me it looks cleaner. > > [1] - > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients > > Best Regards, > Igor > > > On M

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Igor Sapego
I've updated IEP page: [1] What do you think now? To me it looks cleaner. [1] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients Best Regards, Igor On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:44 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Ok, I understand now. I'll try updating IE

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Igor Sapego
Ok, I understand now. I'll try updating IEP according to this proposal and notify you guys. Best Regards, Igor On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 4:27 PM Vladimir Ozerov wrote: > Igor, > > My idea is simply to add the list of caches with the same distribution to > the end of partition response. Client can

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Igor, My idea is simply to add the list of caches with the same distribution to the end of partition response. Client can use this information to populate partition info for more caches in a single request. On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:06 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Vladimir, > > So correct me if I'm w

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Igor Sapego
Vladimir, So correct me if I'm wrong, what you propose is to avoid mentioning of cache groups, and use instead of "cache group" term something like "distribution"? Or do you propose some changes in protocol? If so, can you briefly explain, what kind of changes they are? Best Regards, Igor On Mo

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Igor, Yes, cache groups are public API. However, we try to avoid new APIs depending on them. The main point from my side is that “similar cache group” can be easily generalized to “similar distribution”. This way we avoid cache groups on protocol level at virtually no cost. Vladimir. пн, 4 февр.

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Igor Sapego
Guys, Can you explain why do we want to avoid Cache groups in protocol? If it's about simplicity of the protocol, then removing cache groups will not help much with it - we will still need to include "knownCacheIds" field in request and "cachesWithTheSamePartitioning" field in response. And also,

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-04 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Pavel, Igor, This is not very accurate to say that this will not save memory. In practice we observed a number of OOME issues on the server-side due to many caches and it was one of motivations for cache groups (another one disk access optimizations). On the other hand, I agree that we'd better to

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-03 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Igor, I have a feeling that we should omit Cache Group stuff from the protocol. It is a rare use case and even then dealing with them on client barely saves some memory. We can keep it simple and have partition map per cacheId. Thoughts? On Fri, Feb 1, 2019 at 6:49 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Guys,

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-02-01 Thread Igor Sapego
Guys, I've updated the proposal once again [1], so please, take a look and let me know what you think. [1] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients Best Regards, Igor On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 1:05 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Yeah, I'll ad

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-17 Thread Igor Sapego
Yeah, I'll add it. Best Regards, Igor On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 11:08 PM Pavel Tupitsyn wrote: > > to every server > I did not think of this issue. Now I agree with your approach. > Can you please add an explanation of this to the IEP? > > Thanks! > > On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 2:53 PM Igor Sapego

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-16 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
> to every server I did not think of this issue. Now I agree with your approach. Can you please add an explanation of this to the IEP? Thanks! On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 2:53 PM Igor Sapego wrote: > Pavel, > > Yeah, it makes sense, but to me it seems that this approach can lead > to more complica

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-16 Thread Igor Sapego
Pavel, Yeah, it makes sense, but to me it seems that this approach can lead to more complicated client logic, as it will require to make additional call to every server, that reports affinity topology change. Guys, WDYT? Best Regards, Igor On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 10:59 PM Pavel Tupitsyn wrote

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-15 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Igor, > It is proposed to add flag to every response, that shows whether the Affinity Topology Version of the cluster has changed since the last request from the client. I propose to keep this flag. So no need for periodic checks. Makes sense? On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 4:45 PM Igor Sapego wrote:

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-15 Thread Igor Sapego
Pavel, This will require from client to send this new request periodically, I'm not sure this will make clients simpler. Anyway, let's discuss it. Vladimir, With current proposal, we will have affinity info in message header. Best Regards, Igor On Tue, Jan 15, 2019 at 11:01 AM Vladimir Ozerov

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-15 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Igor, I think that "Cache Partitions Request" should contain affinity topology version. Otherwise we do not know what distribution is returned - the one we expected, or some newer one. The latter may happen in case topology changed or late affinity assignment happened between server response and s

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-14 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Hi Igor, Looks good to me in general, except changing the response message format so much. Can we use a separate message to retrieve affinity topology version? Set a flag as you describe, but don't put the version data into standard response? Just to keep the protocol cleaner, follow SRP to some

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2019-01-14 Thread Igor Sapego
Hello guys, I've updated IEP page [1] describing proposed solution in more details and proposing some changes for a protocol. Please, take a look and let me know what you think. [1] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients Best Regards

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-19 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Denis, Yes, in principle we can extend it. We are going to implement it in subsequent phases of this IEP. On Tue, Jun 19, 2018 at 4:30 AM, Dmitriy Setrakyan wrote: > On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Denis Magda wrote: > > > Folks, > > > > Feel that this functionality can be extended to the au

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-18 Thread Dmitriy Setrakyan
On Mon, Jun 18, 2018 at 11:07 AM, Denis Magda wrote: > Folks, > > Feel that this functionality can be extended to the automatic reconnect, > can't it? Presently we require to provide a static list of IPs to be used > at a reconnect time. By having a partition map of all the nodes, the thin > clie

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-18 Thread Denis Magda
Folks, Feel that this functionality can be extended to the automatic reconnect, can't it? Presently we require to provide a static list of IPs to be used at a reconnect time. By having a partition map of all the nodes, the thin client should be able to automate this piece. -- Denis On Mon, Jun 1

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-18 Thread Igor Sapego
I've created an IEP: [1] [1] - https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/IGNITE/IEP-23%3A+Best+Effort+Affinity+for+thin+clients Best Regards, Igor On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 4:17 PM Pavel Tupitsyn wrote: > Ok, I see, this is what I was trying to understand, and this is an > important note I thi

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-14 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Ok, I see, this is what I was trying to understand, and this is an important note I think: * We should request AffinityFunction for each particular cache and only enable this functionality for known functions * Make sure that known server-side functions never change their behavior Thanks On Thu,

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-14 Thread Igor Sapego
Vladimir is right, As far as I know, most users use affinity functions provided by Ignite. So we could optimize for the default case and, in future, optionally, let user implement their own AffinityFunction for thin clients. Best Regards, Igor On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 3:06 PM Vladimir Ozerov wr

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-14 Thread Vladimir Ozerov
Pavel, The idea here is that optimization will be applicable only for well-known affinity functions. E.g., we know that for rendezvous affinity, partition is "hash(key) % partitions". This is all we need to make default affinity work. On Thu, Jun 14, 2018 at 11:41 AM, Pavel Tupitsyn wrote: > Af

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-14 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
AffinityFunction interface has the following method: int partition(Object key) User calls cache.put(x,y) from the client. In order to calculate the target node we have to call that partition method, and then use partition map to get the node by partition. But client does not have AffinityFunctio

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-14 Thread Igor Sapego
Denis, that's right. Best Regards, Igor On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 10:58 PM Denis Magda wrote: > Pavel, > > Most likely the client will be pulling the partitioning map periodically. > If the local map is outdated, it won't be a big deal because a server node > that receives a request: > >- ca

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-13 Thread Denis Magda
Pavel, Most likely the client will be pulling the partitioning map periodically. If the local map is outdated, it won't be a big deal because a server node that receives a request: - can redirect it to a map that owns a partition - will add an updated partition map to the client's response

Re: Best Effort Affinity for thin clients

2018-06-13 Thread Pavel Tupitsyn
Hi Igor, How can we invoke the affinity function on the client, if we don't have the implementation at hand? Am I missing something? Thanks, Pavel On Wed, Jun 13, 2018 at 5:34 PM, Igor Sapego wrote: > Hi, Igniters, > > Currently, I'm working on the thin C++ client implementation. > As you may